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#1 2009-10-12 07:52:39

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10-15 sec delay when starting a gnome-session for the first time

When I log in (not using gdm or any graphical manager), and start xinit, there is a 12 sec blank screen and then gnome loads up.  This is only for the first time I log in.  If I exit gnome, then start xinit again, it comes up in 2 sec flat.  To reproduce the delayed startup, I have to reboot and login fresh.  Is there a bootchart sort of program that can help me diagnose the source of the slow down?

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#2 2009-10-12 17:33:19

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Re: 10-15 sec delay when starting a gnome-session for the first time

Are you using compiz? Cause i am experiencing something similar.

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#3 2009-10-12 19:43:57

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Re: 10-15 sec delay when starting a gnome-session for the first time

@speedboy - as a matter of fact, yes I am using compiz smile  I took fusion-icon out of my gnome startup and the problem is still there.  Also confirmed it with a freshly made user too.

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#4 2009-10-13 22:41:11

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Re: 10-15 sec delay when starting a gnome-session for the first time

I don't use compositing at all and have the same problem. Unfortunately this issue remains in gnome 2.28 hmm
Only the first login after the boot is slow. If you logout and the re-login (same user) it goes really fast (2-3 secs)

the only errors I think might be relevant in .xsession-errors are these:

(gnome-settings-daemon:7779): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_param_spec_flags: assertion `G_TYPE_IS_FLAGS (flags_type)' failed

(gnome-settings-daemon:7779): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_class_install_property: assertion `G_IS_PARAM_SPEC (pspec)' failed
Window manager warning: "" found in configuration database is not a valid value for keybinding "run_command_terminal"
Window manager warning: Failed to read saved session file ~/.config/metacity/sessions/10eb4f0de58fd55299125546466467103200000077490031.ms: Failed to open f
ile '~/.config/metacity/sessions/10eb4f0de58fd55299125546466467103200000077490031.ms': No such file or directory


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#5 2009-10-14 09:28:31

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Re: 10-15 sec delay when starting a gnome-session for the first time

This is a "mee too"-post sp: Me too. Starting to get annoying. As I haven't gotten hibernate set up yet, I cold-start the computer at home, then at uni, then at home, and the delay is noticable. For me this is also just happens the first login per boot.

I don't have any clue as to why this happens but if anyone have an idea, I'm happy to try it. I am running gnome DE with metacity, no compiz, but xcompmgr for transparency and shadows. Don't know what else is relevant.

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#6 2009-10-24 10:56:47

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Re: 10-15 sec delay when starting a gnome-session for the first time

@tasos - exactly what I'm getting.

I made a new user and I have only this in its ~/.xinitrc

exec ck-launch-session gnome-session

When I log in (not using gdm or any graphical manager), and start xinit, there is a 12 sec blank screen and then gnome loads up.  This is only for the first time I log in.  If I exit gnome, then start xinit again, it comes up in 2 sec flat.  To reproduce the delayed startup, I have to reboot and login fresh.  Since it's a new user, there is no compiz or other things to slow down the startup, just the standard stuff, here is the output:

$ xinit

This is a pre-release version of the X server from The X.Org Foundation.
It is not supported in any way.
Bugs may be filed in the bugzilla at http://bugs.freedesktop.org/.
Select the "xorg" product for bugs you find in this release.
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X.Org X Server 1.6.3.901 (1.6.4 RC 1)
Release Date: 2009-8-25
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.30-ARCH x86_64
Current Operating System: Linux novelty 2.6.31-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Oct 13 11:33:39 CEST 2009 x86_64
Build Date: 04 September 2009  05:45:43PM

        Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
        to make sure that you have the latest version.
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
        (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
        (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Sat Oct 24 06:47:02 2009
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
(EE) Microsoft NaturalR Ergonomic Keyboard 4000: failed to initialize for relative axes.

(gnome-settings-daemon:3367): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_param_spec_flags: assertion `G_TYPE_IS_FLAGS (flags_type)' failed

(gnome-settings-daemon:3367): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_class_install_property: assertion `G_IS_PARAM_SPEC (pspec)' failed
Window manager warning: Failed to read saved session file /home/archie/.config/metacity/sessions/10da13a8cbe06a5696125638122713119700000032940021.ms: Failed to open file '/home/archie/.config/metacity/sessions/10da13a8cbe06a5696125638122713119700000032940021.ms': No such file or directory
Unable to open desktop file evolution.desktop for panel launcher
** Message: Initializing gksu extension...
Initializing nautilus-image-converter extension

** (nautilus:3397): WARNING **: libeel-2.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

Is this in upstream or an Arch package?  Is this an Xorg problem or a Gnome problem?  Can someone with KDE try it?

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#7 2009-10-24 11:15:37

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Re: 10-15 sec delay when starting a gnome-session for the first time

I opened a bug report on this issue here.  Please add your voices, votes, and log files to it.

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#8 2009-10-24 13:33:39

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Re: 10-15 sec delay when starting a gnome-session for the first time

I've found a work around for this which removes the delay which at least works good for me.
Comment out all lines in your compiz.desktop file and then add compiz ccp to your autostart applications.

Hope it helps!
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#9 2009-10-24 13:41:27

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Re: 10-15 sec delay when starting a gnome-session for the first time

@lazze - where is the display.settings file?


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#10 2009-10-24 13:59:43

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Re: 10-15 sec delay when starting a gnome-session for the first time

Sorry, was working on another issue at the same time and mixed the compiz.desktop and the display.settings file.
/usr/share/applications/compiz.desktop is the file I ment.

It depends a bit on how you've set up your compiz, but what you should do is to remove the compiz startup so it will start with the default decorator and then start compiz from the autostart instead.

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#11 2009-10-24 17:02:53

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Re: 10-15 sec delay when starting a gnome-session for the first time

@lazze - compiz isn't in the mix.  I tried w/ a fresh user wo/ compiz and experienced the same delay.


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#12 2009-10-25 12:40:16

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Re: 10-15 sec delay when starting a gnome-session for the first time

Hmm, for me it was compiz, if I stopped using compiz it logged in immediately but when turning compiz on it took me about 10 seconds to log in, the computer just seems to be waiting on something. There's more people with the same issue as i had in this thread:

http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=78558

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#13 2009-10-25 13:31:53

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Re: 10-15 sec delay when starting a gnome-session for the first time

graysky wrote:

Can someone with KDE try it?

Well, I tried it on another box I have running xfce4 and I do see the error messages that I do on my box running Gnome.

$ xinit


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X.Org X Server 1.6.3.901 (1.6.4 RC 1)
Release Date: 2009-8-25
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.30-ARCH i686 
Current Operating System: Linux host 2.6.31-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Oct 13 13:36:23 CEST 2009 i686
Build Date: 04 September 2009  03:37:03PM
 
    Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
    to make sure that you have the latest version.
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
    (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
    (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Sun Oct 25 09:30:41 2009
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
/usr/bin/startxfce4: X server already running on display :0
xrdb:  "Xft.hinting" on line 9 overrides entry on line 6
xrdb:  "Xft.hintstyle" on line 11 overrides entry on line 7
Agent pid 14083

(xfce4-panel:14157): xfce4-panel-WARNING **: xfce4-panel is not running
xfdesktop[14156]: starting up

(xfce4-panel:14157): xfce4-panel-WARNING **: Internal plugins need the "X-XFCE-Module-Path" entry to work properly.

(xfce4-panel:14157): xfce4-panel-WARNING **: Failed to create plugin "smartbookmark"

(xfce4-panel:14157): xfce4-panel-WARNING **: Internal plugins need the "X-XFCE-Module-Path" entry to work properly.

(xfce4-panel:14157): xfce4-panel-WARNING **: Failed to create plugin "quicklauncher"

(xfce4-settings-helper:14159): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_param_spec_flags: assertion `G_TYPE_IS_FLAGS (flags_type)' failed

(xfce4-settings-helper:14159): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_class_install_property: assertion `G_IS_PARAM_SPEC (pspec)' failed
PORT=5900
xscreensaver: 09:30:52: already running on display :0.0 (window 0x600001)
 from process 14078 (user@host).

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#14 2009-10-25 16:46:10

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Re: 10-15 sec delay when starting a gnome-session for the first time

Here is ~/.xsession-errors from the original box after I installed kdebase-workspace and started a kdesession.  You'll notice that there are no GLib-GObject-CRITICAL entries which points the problem at Gnome, not xorg.

startkde: Starting up...
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_klauncher.so
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_kded4.so
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_kbuildsycoca4.so
kbuildsycoca4 running...
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_kbuildsycoca4.so
kbuildsycoca4 running...
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_kconf_update.so
Invalid D-BUS member name 'idle-hint' found in interface 'org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit.Session' while parsing introspection
Invalid D-BUS member name 'is-local' found in interface 'org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit.Session' while parsing introspection
Invalid D-BUS member name 'x11-display-device' found in interface 'org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit.Session' while parsing introspection
Invalid D-BUS member name 'x11-display' found in interface 'org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit.Session' while parsing introspection
Invalid D-BUS member name 'display-device' found in interface 'org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit.Session' while parsing introspection
Invalid D-BUS member name 'remote-host-name' found in interface 'org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit.Session' while parsing introspection
Invalid D-BUS member name 'session-type' found in interface 'org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit.Session' while parsing introspection
Invalid D-BUS member name 'unix-user' found in interface 'org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit.Session' while parsing introspection
X Error: XSyncBadAlarm 164
  Extension:    146 (Uknown extension)
  Minor opcode: 11 (Unknown request)
  Resource id:  0x0
X Error: XSyncBadAlarm 164
  Extension:    146 (Uknown extension)
  Minor opcode: 11 (Unknown request)
  Resource id:  0x0
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_kcminit_startup.so
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_ksmserver.so
<unknown program name>(3450)/ KStartupInfo::createNewStartupId: creating:  "audacity;1256488862;168790;3450_TIME0" : "unnamed app"
kephald starting up 
XRANDR error base:  174 
RRInput mask is set!! 
RandRScreen::loadSettings - adding mode:  325 1680 x 1050 
RandRScreen::loadSettings - adding mode:  326 1400 x 1050 
RandRScreen::loadSettings - adding mode:  327 1280 x 1024 
RandRScreen::loadSettings - adding mode:  328 1280 x 1024 
RandRScreen::loadSettings - adding mode:  329 1280 x 960 
RandRScreen::loadSettings - adding mode:  330 1152 x 864 
RandRScreen::loadSettings - adding mode:  331 1024 x 768 
RandRScreen::loadSettings - adding mode:  332 1024 x 768 
RandRScreen::loadSettings - adding mode:  333 1024 x 768 
RandRScreen::loadSettings - adding mode:  334 832 x 624 
RandRScreen::loadSettings - adding mode:  335 800 x 600 
RandRScreen::loadSettings - adding mode:  336 800 x 600 
RandRScreen::loadSettings - adding mode:  337 800 x 600 
RandRScreen::loadSettings - adding mode:  338 800 x 600 
RandRScreen::loadSettings - adding mode:  339 800 x 600 
RandRScreen::loadSettings - adding mode:  340 800 x 600 
RandRScreen::loadSettings - adding mode:  341 700 x 525 
RandRScreen::loadSettings - adding mode:  342 700 x 525 
RandRScreen::loadSettings - adding mode:  343 640 x 512 
RandRScreen::loadSettings - adding mode:  344 640 x 512 
RandRScreen::loadSettings - adding mode:  345 640 x 480 
RandRScreen::loadSettings - adding mode:  346 640 x 480 
RandRScreen::loadSettings - adding mode:  347 640 x 480 
RandRScreen::loadSettings - adding mode:  348 640 x 480 
RandRScreen::loadSettings - adding mode:  349 640 x 480 
RandRScreen::loadSettings - adding mode:  350 640 x 480 
RandRScreen::loadSettings - adding mode:  351 576 x 432 
RandRScreen::loadSettings - adding mode:  352 512 x 384 
RandRScreen::loadSettings - adding mode:  353 512 x 384 
RandRScreen::loadSettings - adding mode:  354 512 x 384 
RandRScreen::loadSettings - adding mode:  355 416 x 312 
RandRScreen::loadSettings - adding mode:  356 400 x 300 
RandRScreen::loadSettings - adding mode:  357 400 x 300 
RandRScreen::loadSettings - adding mode:  358 400 x 300 
RandRScreen::loadSettings - adding mode:  359 400 x 300 
RandRScreen::loadSettings - adding mode:  360 320 x 240 
RandRScreen::loadSettings - adding mode:  361 320 x 240 
RandRScreen::loadSettings - adding mode:  362 320 x 240 
RandRScreen::loadSettings - adding crtc:  323 
RandRScreen::loadSettings - adding output:  324 
Setting CRTC 323 on output "default" (previous 0 ) 
CRTC outputs: (324) 
Output name: "default" 
Output refresh rate: 50 
Output rect: QRect(0,0 1680x1050) 
Output rotation: 1 
XRandROutputs::init 
  added output  324 
adding an output 0 with geom:  QRect(0,0 1680x1050) 
output: "SCREEN-0" QRect(0,0 1680x1050) 1952543855 true true 
load xml 
connected: 1 
looking for current "SCREEN-0" 
known "*" has score: 0.125 
screen: 0 QRect(0,0 1680x1050) 
looking for a matching configuration... 
connected: 1 
looking for current "SCREEN-0" 
known "*" has score: 0.125 
found outputs, known: false 
activate external configuration!! 
registered the service: true 
screens registered on the bus: true 
outputs registered on the bus: true 
configurations registered on the bus: true 
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_kglobalaccel.so
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_plasma-desktop.so
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/knotify4
QDBusObjectPath: invalid path ""
QLayout: Attempting to add QLayout "" to QWidget "", which already has a layout
Object::connect: No such signal SystemTray::Manager::jobStateChanged(SystemTray::Job*)
Invalid D-BUS interface name 'org.kde.plasma-desktop.PlasmaApp' found while parsing introspection
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/kwrited
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/kio_trash.so
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_kaccess.so
<unknown program name>(3506)/ kdemain: Xlib XKB extension major= 1  minor= 0
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_krunner.so
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_nepomukserver.so
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_nepomukserver.so
Nepomuk server already running.
[/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub] (Soprano::PluginManager) found no soprano plugin at  "/usr/lib/soprano/libsoprano_sesame2backend.so"
[/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub] (Soprano::PluginManager) found no soprano plugin at  "/usr/lib/soprano/libsoprano_sesame2backend.so"
[/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub] (Soprano::Redland::BackendPlugin) creating model of type "hashes" with options "hash-type='bdb',contexts='yes',dir='/home/user/.kde4/share/apps/nepomuk/repository/main/data/redland'"
[/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub] (ServerCore) new socket connection.
[/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub] (ServerCore) new socket connection.
[/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub] (ServerCore) new socket connection.
[/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub] (ServerCore) new socket connection.
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/kio_trash.so
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/nepomukservicestub
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/nepomukservicestub
Unknown service name: 10dae3ef65000125648872200000031460006_1256488823_243624
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/nepomukservicestub
Unknown service name: 10dae3ef65000125648872200000031460007_1256488823_217426
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/nepomukservicestub
Unknown service name: 10dae3ef65000125648872200000031460008_1256488823_217245
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_klipper.so
QDBusObjectPath: invalid path ""
Unknown service name: 10dae3ef65000125648872200000031460009_1256488829_295359
"Warning: You do not seem to have the package gstreamer0.10-plugins-good installed.
          Some video features have been disabled." 
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/systemsettings
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/systemsettings
"Warning: You do not seem to have the package gstreamer0.10-plugins-good installed.
          Some video features have been disabled." 
QProcess: Destroyed while process is still running.
kdeinit4: Fatal IO error: client killed
kdeinit4: sending SIGHUP to children.
klauncher: Exiting on signal 1
kdeinit4: sending SIGTERM to children.
kdeinit4: Exit.
kglobalaccel: Fatal IO error: client killed
kdeinit4: Fatal IO error: client killed
kdeinit4: sending SIGHUP to children.
nepomukserver: Fatal IO error: client killed
kded4: Fatal IO error: client killed
kdeinit4: sending SIGTERM to children.
kdeinit4: Exit.

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#15 2009-12-08 08:34:36

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Re: 10-15 sec delay when starting a gnome-session for the first time

It's been a while.. is anyone else aside from tasos and naguz experiencing this and is there a fix?  I've ruled out compiz as the cause.


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#16 2009-12-08 13:21:09

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Re: 10-15 sec delay when starting a gnome-session for the first time

I also experience this bug. Using the advice on the above mentioned thread (http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=78558) I did reduce a bit my login time, but not to naerly as much as a second login...
I have voted for your bug in flyspray.
I can also say that this bug used to happen in ubuntu jaunty, but it seems to have been solved in karmic. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+sour … bug/284366

It's not clear what happened to solve it, but it proves that it can be solved.
Also, after a bit of googling, it seems like the error we are suffering from is related to gnome-panel.
I will see what happens if I try to start my gnome-session without the gnome-panel...

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#17 2009-12-08 13:25:33

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Re: 10-15 sec delay when starting a gnome-session for the first time

Starting without gnome-panel did not solve the problem.
The error messages in .xsession-errors also persist.

Maybe this bug should be reported directly to gnome bugzilla?

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#18 2009-12-08 13:30:23

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Re: 10-15 sec delay when starting a gnome-session for the first time

Sorry about the triple posting, but one more thing that must be relevant:
On my second login (2 sec) the errors in .xsession-errors show up again, despite the quick login time.
Maybe we should be looking somewhere else for the error that causes the delay?

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#19 2009-12-17 11:08:01

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Re: 10-15 sec delay when starting a gnome-session for the first time

is there a fix or something? I still have this problem!

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#20 2009-12-19 13:48:12

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Re: 10-15 sec delay when starting a gnome-session for the first time

Anyone else?

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#21 2009-12-19 13:55:04

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Re: 10-15 sec delay when starting a gnome-session for the first time

Yep, same here.  Same delay upon first login and the same errors in my logs.


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#22 2010-01-01 14:34:04

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Re: 10-15 sec delay when starting a gnome-session for the first time

Nobody found a fix? I also got this problem. I tried with nv, moving the setting folders (.kdemod4, .kde4), reinstalling every package and so on but no luck.


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#23 2010-01-01 15:06:12

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Re: 10-15 sec delay when starting a gnome-session for the first time

All I can say at this point is to comment and vote for the bug report I filed.


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#24 2010-05-12 11:29:53

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Re: 10-15 sec delay when starting a gnome-session for the first time

I had to disable a non-existant floppy drive in my bios and that fixed the problem. I saw others in a ubuntu forum had fixed their problem the same way.

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#25 2010-06-11 20:37:58

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Re: 10-15 sec delay when starting a gnome-session for the first time

kfrance wrote:

I had to disable a non-existant floppy drive in my bios and that fixed the problem. I saw others in a ubuntu forum had fixed their problem the same way.

What was reported there (disabling floppy in BIOS and adding "!floppy" to MODULES) worked for me too. Thanks for the hint! This issue has been bothering me for weeks mad

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