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#26 2005-02-02 22:33:54

phrakture
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Re: What desktop environment do you use?

yeah, I like wmi mainly for keyboard usage... it gives you the power of vim with similar functions to split buffers and things of that nature... and still allows you to use normal apps (unlike console).

Also, I like the intuitive design of the input mode bar....

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#27 2005-02-03 00:21:07

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Re: What desktop environment do you use?

I took the plunge and am trying the new release of WindowMaker, With the new XFT2 support I'm a little more impressed than I was before.

I have decent computer (AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2000+) but I see no reason to waste it on bloat like KDE and GNOME, minimalism is sexy.


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#28 2005-02-03 01:07:19

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Re: What desktop environment do you use?

XFCE's file manager, as stated in the Arch wiki, is a bit on the bloated side.

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#29 2005-02-03 02:32:00

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Re: What desktop environment do you use?

what is the "power of vim" i must be missing something - how do i tap that power?

and what about fvwm? is that in the poll?

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#30 2005-02-03 12:45:37

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Re: What desktop environment do you use?

dibblethewrecker wrote:

what is the "power of vim" i must be missing something - how do i tap that power?

and what about fvwm? is that in the poll?

Yes, it is. It's a classic wm and fits into "fluxbox/..." category.

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#31 2005-02-03 14:25:59

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Re: What desktop environment do you use?

XFce! Because everything goes faster. smile


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#32 2005-02-03 14:56:23

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Re: What desktop environment do you use?

I am wondering why GNOME has become popular compared to the poll 10 months ago.
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?t=3372

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#33 2005-02-03 15:29:12

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Re: What desktop environment do you use?

rasat wrote:

I am wondering why GNOME has become popular compared to the poll 10 months ago.[...]

Yeah, really.  I guess all the Arch XFCE studs out there, like myself, are just too stuborn to vote again.  I "bit the bullet" and voted again anyway.  I really don't see much difference in this poll from the prior.  The only thing missing from the first was adding an "other" option.

Whatever the case, "to each his own".  If I were a hard core developer, I'd use "ion".  For anything and everything else, XFCE seems the perfect blend between GNOME and just a WM.  That's why I use it.  Plus, the name "XFCE" reminds me of an old cartoon I used to watch, called "G-FORCE".  Using XFCE makes me feel young again.  Shoot, I even lost 20 pounds since I started using XFCE, and the liver spots on my hands suddenly disappeared.  Can your desktop do that for you?  I don't think so...

Everywhere I go, I tell people, "hey, I use XFCE".  I used that line one time at a KISS concert reunion.  The stage manager was so impressed he gave me a backstage pass.  I went backstage to talk to Gene Simmons, and I told him proudly, "hey, I use XFCE".  Gene stuck out his tongue and said, "really? Shout it....shout it....shout it out loud...."

So, the next time you vote for anything other than XFCE, remember what your missing...

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#34 2005-02-03 15:33:47

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Re: What desktop environment do you use?

skoal wrote:

Whatever the case, "to each his own".  If I were a hard core developer, I'd use "ion".  For anything and everything else, XFCE seems the perfect blend between GNOME and just a WM.  That's why I use it.  Plus, the name "XFCE" reminds me of an old cartoon I used to watch, called "G-FORCE".  Using XFCE makes me feel young again.  Shoot, I even lost 20 pounds since I started using XFCE, and the liver spots on my hands suddenly disappeared.  Can your desktop do that for you?  I don't think so...

Everywhere I go, I tell people, "hey, I use XFCE".  I used that line one time at a KISS concert reunion.  The stage manager was so impressed he gave me a backstage pass.  I went backstage to talk to Gene Simmons, and I told him proudly, "hey, I use XFCE".  Gene stuck out his tongue and said, "really? Shout it....shout it....shout it out loud...."

So, the next time you vote for anything other than XFCE, remember what your missing...

first off, skoal, you never fail to make me laugh... your ramblings are great...

anyway, ion is cool and all, but wmi is much better...

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#35 2005-02-03 15:43:22

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Re: What desktop environment do you use?

phrakture wrote:

[...]anyway, ion is cool and all, but wmi is much better...

Well, I trust your opinion, so I'll try out the "WMI" thing you're talking about.  I've never heard of it before.

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#36 2005-02-03 15:50:21

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Re: What desktop environment do you use?

it's kinda an offshoot of ion, bringing some vim-like things into the mix

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#37 2005-02-03 16:56:23

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Re: What desktop environment do you use?

Well, I didn't expect XFCE to be so popular. I always thought it a niche DE - for low-spec machines. At least XFCE3, which I used when I had a 16 times slower computer than today. It is simply too limited, actually not really lightweight (xffm) and much less consistant than GNOME or KDE.

Why more people use XFCE than GNOME is puzzling. The only reasons I know not to use gnome are: 1) low RAM/low disk space; 2) your find GNOME dependecies too large/complicated.

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#38 2005-02-03 17:01:22

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Re: What desktop environment do you use?

XFCE smokes Gnome for speed and stability,

if I ever get tired of Ion i'll be going back to XFCE  8)


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#39 2005-02-07 13:43:16

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Re: What desktop environment do you use?

cortexzero wrote:

I prefer XFCE. It has a nice balance between looking sweet and still running reasonably fast. However, sometimes I have an itch to use fluxbox, or wmi, but I always return to XFCE. Although I can't understand how the developers of such a (for the most part)  great DE manage to produce such a crappy file manager.

I think that writing a good file manager is MUCH more difficult than writing a decent panel. I still wait for a file manager as lean and easy to use as Nautilus and having all the features of ROX and MC.

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#40 2005-02-07 19:33:55

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Re: What desktop environment do you use?

to catch up with JGC i voted for KDE smile
it's a great environment and it's getting better with every new release.
stay tuned for kde 3.4 beta2 appearing probably next weekend in my tur.

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#41 2005-02-08 15:04:32

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Re: What desktop environment do you use?

XFCE + Nautilus =  8)

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#42 2005-02-08 17:30:16

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Re: What desktop environment do you use?

For my desktop, KDE since I got the resources and like more its integration.  On slower, more memory limited systems I use either Gnome or XFCE 4.

On my servers, no gui at all and a mix of ssh and webmin.

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#43 2005-02-10 17:10:46

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Re: What desktop environment do you use?

dibblethewrecker wrote:

what is the "power of vim" i must be missing something - how do i tap that power?

I've been working in gvim and learning the keystrokes from the menu.  It's nice.  It's kind of slow-going because I do a lot of work in Windows at my real job.  But I like vim.  You  go **BANG!! POW**** and you've done something awesome and amazing that I still can't really do all that often.

vim is kind of like nunchucks.  It hurts until you learn to use it, then it's really powerful.  smile


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#44 2005-02-10 18:41:57

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Re: What desktop environment do you use?

thegnu wrote:

You  go **BANG!! POW**** and you've done something awesome and amazing that I still can't really do all that often.

vim is kind of like nunchucks.  It hurts until you learn to use it, then it's really powerful.  smile

the greatest description of vim ever!

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#45 2005-02-10 18:56:56

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Re: What desktop environment do you use?

VIM for me was like.. masturbating..

You start out strong and before you know it.. you're limp.


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#46 2005-02-10 20:32:45

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Re: What desktop environment do you use?

I like Vim... Very, very nice for editing stuff, often a lot less annoying than Nano etc. I could see some problems actually writing stuff from scratch with it though.

(Miqorz: eww... We didn't need to know that. roll )

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#47 2005-03-14 06:00:29

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Re: What desktop environment do you use?

I use KDE but I think I'm going to try XFCE when I do my next install... (aka tonight)


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#48 2005-03-28 05:25:07

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Re: What desktop environment do you use?

I voted for Xfce4 for favorite desktop environment, but I like Fluxbox for simple window manager.


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#49 2005-03-28 13:14:04

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Re: What desktop environment do you use?

GNOME - I used to toy around with different window managers, thinking I was cool having spent hours tweaking my .fvwm2rc with transparent aterms, and all that jazz.  But then I realized:  NO ONE CARES!  No one gave me a medal.  So I stopped playing and started _using_ my PC.  GNOME is a great environment IMHO, and Metacity is probably the sexiest window manager I've ever used.


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#50 2005-03-28 16:12:29

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Re: What desktop environment do you use?

heh, if you really want to start "using" your PC, why are you using the mouse? check out ion or wmi (wmii)

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