[Solved] lxde and pcmanfm missing options

shariebeth · 2010-07-08 15:15:54

Solved, read here: http://blog.lxde.org/?p=737 (both intentionally missing)

After last night's pcmanfm update (0.5.2-1 to 0.9.7-1), my pcmanfm is missing the tree option in the left panel (and judging from other posts, other things as well that I haven't needed yet).
Also my lxde now does not have a background nor is the entire tab available anymore in the "Desktop Settings" option (or anywhere anymore). It is a totally different "Preferences" window only giving General, Display, Volume Management, Advanced tabs.

I have regularly switched between ratpoison and lxde|openbox. I use "exec ck-launch-session lxde" in my ~/.xinitrc. I also tried "exec startlxde" which didn't help. I manually startx.

I have searched (and asked in #archlinux but nobody answered) and found these threads that touched on similar problems with pcmanfm but nothing about my issues that I could see. I also looked in lxde forums but no luck.
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=98529
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=100635

My updates last night:
[2010-07-07 16:10] Running 'pacman -Syu'
[2010-07-07 16:10] synchronizing package lists
[2010-07-07 16:10] starting full system upgrade
[2010-07-07 16:11] warning: directory permissions differ on usr/
filesystem: 777 package: 755
[2010-07-07 16:11] upgraded libarchive (2.8.3-3 -> 2.8.4-1)
[2010-07-07 16:11] warning: directory permissions differ on usr/
filesystem: 777 package: 755
[2010-07-07 16:11] installed libfm (0.1.12-1)
[2010-07-07 16:11] warning: directory permissions differ on usr/
filesystem: 777 package: 755
[2010-07-07 16:11] upgraded pcmanfm (0.5.2-1 -> 0.9.7-1)
[2010-07-07 16:11] warning: directory permissions differ on usr/
filesystem: 777 package: 755
[2010-07-07 16:11] upgraded pcre (8.02-1 -> 8.10-1)
[2010-07-07 16:11] warning: directory permissions differ on usr/
filesystem: 777 package: 755
[2010-07-07 16:11] upgraded sudo (1.7.2p7-2 -> 1.7.3-1)

Last edited by shariebeth (2010-07-08 19:26:59)

wonder · 2010-07-08 15:20:39

here is something about the desktop;

http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/20104

btw, you should really fix those permissions. chmod 755 /usr as root

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shariebeth · 2010-07-08 15:30:38

Hah ok, one problem at least understood! (I don't have faith yet in my own abilities to assume problems I have are bugs, so it never occured to me to look there.)
Solution until it's fixed from bug report page (if it gets fixed):
"To config the desktop, run pcmanfm --desktop-pref.
To actually get the desktop, run pcmanfm --desktop."

Is there going to be a "fix" for the pcmanfm? Or is this wanted behavior to eliminate the left panel options?

As to the permissions, I changed them when I first started with arch and was constantly reconfiguring as I learned. I came from Puppy which has everything running in root and it was driving me nuts before I got used to not running in root here.

Thank you wonder for your speedy and helpful reply as usual.

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wonder · 2010-07-08 15:46:51

for your left panel, try adding in .xinitrc exec ck-launch-session dbus-launch startlxde

shariebeth · 2010-07-08 16:04:33

Just tried that.
It gives me the same results that exec ck-launch-session lxde gave me.
I only have /home/shariebeth, Desktop, and Applications available in the left panel. Going into preferences also does not give me the option to see the File System tree.

Edit: Not the end of the world, since they are minor convenience issues and I can work my way around them. I am relieved I didn't break something!

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Inxsible · 2010-07-08 16:12:39

This thread seems to have a solution for your problem, although I cannot confirm since I haven't tried it yet.

http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php? … 28#p788428

shariebeth · 2010-07-08 16:18:33

Inxsible wrote:

This thread seems to have a solution for your problem, although I cannot confirm since I haven't tried it yet.
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php? … 28#p788428

I tried that (see my first post), it doesn't do anything differently.

Inxsible · 2010-07-08 16:26:17

shariebeth wrote:

I tried that (see my first post), it doesn't do anything differently.

Sorry I jumped the gun on my earlier post.

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shariebeth · 2010-07-08 16:59:23

Inxsible wrote:

shariebeth wrote:
I tried that (see my first post), it doesn't do anything differently.
Sorry I jumped the gun on my earlier post.

I still appreciate you trying!

anonymous_user · 2010-07-08 19:08:49

From the LXDE blog:

Where is tree view? I want to redesign this and get it implemented in a better way. Due to some limitations of UNIX-like systems, file monitoring can be a problem and it's a limited system resource. So to keep the dir tree up-to-date and sync with the filesystem, it requires very careful design. I need to think it more and get it well done for the rewrite. So in 1.0, tree view is temporarily removed. In 1.x series I'll add it again when it's ready.

shariebeth · 2010-07-08 19:25:24

anonymous_user wrote:

From the LXDE blog:
Where is tree view? I want to redesign this and get it implemented in a better way. Due to some limitations of UNIX-like systems, file monitoring can be a problem and it's a limited system resource. So to keep the dir tree up-to-date and sync with the filesystem, it requires very careful design. I need to think it more and get it well done for the rewrite. So in 1.0, tree view is temporarily removed. In 1.x series I'll add it again when it's ready.

Yep found it all, more specifically here:
http://blog.lxde.org/?p=737
So both issues are intentional. I will mark this as solved.
Thank you very much anonymous_user, wonder, and Inxsible.

anamesa · 2010-07-09 16:12:02

Though there is some solution in one of the mentioned threads, I preferred to downgrade to previous version 0.5.2-1 and put pcmanfm in IgnorePkg in /etc/pacman.conf. I'm a bit lazy you see. Now everything is back to normal. I'll keep it that way till it breaks the dependencies. If the pcmanfm developer claims it is intentional, then so be it. In the meantime I'll think of a way to get rid of pcmanfm alltogether and to replace it with another means of handling transparency & desktop bg in my arch setup.

Inxsible · 2010-07-09 16:15:13

anamesa wrote:

Though there is some solution in one of the mentioned threads, I preferred to downgrade to previous version 0.5.2-1 and put pcmanfm in IgnorePkg in /etc/pacman.conf. I'm a bit lazy you see. Now everything is back to normal. I'll keep it that way till it breaks the dependencies. If the pcmanfm developer claims it is intentional, then so be it. In the meantime I'll think of a way to get rid of pcmanfm alltogether and to replace it with another means of handling transparency & desktop bg in my arch setup.

feh (an image viewer allows you to set backgrounds. I have pcmanfm installed, but I rarely use it since most times I just use cli commands to browse thru files. There are other light and fast file managers on the wiki if you were looking to switch.
Common File Managers

Lightweight File Managers

Also there are others that Archers have developed which you will find in the Community Contributions sub-forum. Ranger and qtfm come to mind

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