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#1 2010-07-10 02:13:32

punkrockguy318
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Coming back to Arch from Ubuntu

Hey all;
It's been quite a while since I posted in here.  I basically defected to Ubuntu from Arch when warty came out.  Ubuntu is nice when you don't have time to fiddle with your system.  Now that I have time to fiddle with my system, it's such a relief to be running Arch on my main desktop again.

To me, Arch is a lot more straightforward than Ubuntu for a power user.  makepkg is so much simpler/more intuitive to use than debs as well.

I haven't run into a single issue with my Arch install yet.  It took me a couple hours to get compiz running with fglrx, but it was just a simple issue that I report a bug about (the fglrx isn't by default whitelist; but I believe it should be)

So nice to be running on up to date packages.  Also, the AUR is terrific!  Any package that I have wanted that hasn't been in the repos has been there.  The AUR was getting built when I stopped using/contributing to Arch (anyone remember trusted user repos? haha i had one).

But anyways, it's great to be back and I'm looking forward to contributing however I can.  I wonder if there's anyone I still recognize on these boards...


If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.   1 Corinthians 13:2

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#2 2010-07-10 02:48:43

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Re: Coming back to Arch from Ubuntu

Welcome back smile You can't directly compare PKGBUILDs and .debs however. Two entirely different things.

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#3 2010-07-10 03:03:21

punkrockguy318
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Re: Coming back to Arch from Ubuntu

I was referring to PKGBUILDs and the debian deb build scripts

it's really a pain to create deb packages


If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.   1 Corinthians 13:2

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#4 2010-07-10 03:08:22

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Re: Coming back to Arch from Ubuntu

punkrockguy318 wrote:

it's really a pain to create deb packages

You don't have to tell me twice wink

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#5 2010-07-10 04:02:55

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Re: Coming back to Arch from Ubuntu

itsbrad212 wrote:
punkrockguy318 wrote:

it's really a pain to create deb packages

You don't have to tell me twice wink

Yeah, I never actually managed to figure out the deb creation process... ended up just doing sudo make install one time too many on most my installs.


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#6 2010-07-10 04:09:31

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Re: Coming back to Arch from Ubuntu

Hehe, me too. I once tried building a live cd with debian. But the build process would work and sometimes not. So I just "gave up" and used arch instead. Took me an afternoon to accomplish what I had been trying for several weeks with debian smile


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#7 2010-07-10 16:25:01

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Re: Coming back to Arch from Ubuntu

Wow, this has got to be the longest "they all come back" break I've ever seen. Good to see you Lukas. I bet you remember me. wink

Dusty

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#8 2010-07-11 03:29:21

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Re: Coming back to Arch from Ubuntu

I defected from Ubuntu and I find Archlinux to be less work than using Ubuntu. To be up to date with Ubuntu one is forced to swipe the whole system every 6 month, not so with Archlinux, once I got my system setup I have yet seen no reason to reinstall my system.

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#9 2010-07-12 03:31:52

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Re: Coming back to Arch from Ubuntu

I am ashamed to admit that I have done the very same.
I used ubuntu 10.04 for a little while for work.
But then I found out that really all I need was a linux system and not specifically an ubuntu box.
Then it was out with ubuntu and back in with arch.

I will always bounce back to Arch.
If only I could stick to a window manager like I do to arch ...

To those who used ubuntu recently did you use "services" or /etc/init.d/* to stop, start, restart your services/daemons?
It always seemed to me that service never would function correctly but that is just my experience.


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#10 2010-07-12 03:47:59

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Re: Coming back to Arch from Ubuntu

I had no idea how to restart daemons in Ubuntu, I always restarted the machine like it was windows or something in order to restart my network daemon when it was needed. Totally useless!

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#11 2010-07-12 04:27:37

cesura
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Re: Coming back to Arch from Ubuntu

lordmetroid wrote:

I had no idea how to restart daemons in Ubuntu, I always restarted the machine like it was windows or something in order to restart my network daemon when it was needed. Totally useless!

Ubuntu had daemons?!?! tongue

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#12 2010-07-12 04:58:47

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Re: Coming back to Arch from Ubuntu

Hey, welcome back! You may or may not remember me, but I was around back then too!

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#13 2010-07-12 14:39:15

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Re: Coming back to Arch from Ubuntu

When I used Ubuntu I didn't know what a package manager was. I didn't know what a DE was. I didn't know what a WM or FM was. I didn't know what a daemon was. When I started using Arch that changed.

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#14 2010-07-12 15:47:21

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Re: Coming back to Arch from Ubuntu

Kh, I remember your nick from the TU repo.

Welcome back.

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#15 2010-07-20 07:30:17

punkrockguy318
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Re: Coming back to Arch from Ubuntu

Dusty wrote:

Wow, this has got to be the longest "they all come back" break I've ever seen. Good to see you Lukas. I bet you remember me. wink

Dusty

absolutely !  it feels so good to be back


If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.   1 Corinthians 13:2

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#16 2010-07-20 07:31:36

punkrockguy318
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Re: Coming back to Arch from Ubuntu

doom_phd wrote:

I am ashamed to admit that I have done the very same.
I used ubuntu 10.04 for a little while for work.
But then I found out that really all I need was a linux system and not specifically an ubuntu box.
Then it was out with ubuntu and back in with arch.

I will always bounce back to Arch.
If only I could stick to a window manager like I do to arch ...

To those who used ubuntu recently did you use "services" or /etc/init.d/* to stop, start, restart your services/daemons?
It always seemed to me that service never would function correctly but that is just my experience.

services seemed to work okay for me; i started using service start etc w/ 10.04

but /etc/rc.d/ ftw


If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.   1 Corinthians 13:2

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#17 2010-07-20 11:39:08

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Re: Coming back to Arch from Ubuntu

welcome back!

I've been tempted to move away from arch, to Fedora or such, but there's just something about Arch that makes me not want to leave.  it just seems so straightforward, like it just..."makes sense."

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#18 2010-07-20 12:28:36

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Re: Coming back to Arch from Ubuntu

jamba wrote:

welcome back!

I've been tempted to move away from arch, to Fedora or such, but there's just something about Arch that makes me not want to leave.  it just seems so straightforward, like it just..."makes sense."

That's because it really does make sense, not that it "seems to make sense." tongue

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#19 2010-07-21 11:41:41

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Re: Coming back to Arch from Ubuntu

Acecero wrote:
jamba wrote:

welcome back!

I've been tempted to move away from arch, to Fedora or such, but there's just something about Arch that makes me not want to leave.  it just seems so straightforward, like it just..."makes sense."

That's because it really does make sense, not that it "seems to make sense." tongue

good point lol

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