[Sovled] New Archer!

trilobyte- · 2010-07-16 17:25:30

Hi Everyone!

Let me introduce myself, my name is Jordan Lovelle, I'm 13 years old and live in Australia. I couldn't sleep tonight, so I thought I'd try my move from Fedora to Arch Linux. I'm loving it so far, I have KDE up and running, got the sound card working as well as most of the graphic card drivers! I'm happy so far. Arch seems like a very good distro.

There's one problem I'm having, how am I able to enable 3D support so I can use Compiz / Emerald etc? It would be great and make my computer complete if anyone knew how. Details:

[root@Fain jordan]# lspci | grep VGA
00:10.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C73 [GeForce 7050 / nForce 610i] (rev a2)

Thanks for anyone who helps me out with this. I'd really appreciate it.
Thanks guy.

Last edited by trilobyte- (2010-07-17 07:24:31)

brisbin33 · 2010-07-16 17:28:25

have you followed the nvidia wiki page? i believe compiz et all should work just fine if using the proprietary nvidia package.

Inxsible · 2010-07-16 17:33:21

The nvidia wiki page : http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Nvidia

trilobyte- · 2010-07-16 18:03:56

Hello.

Thank both of you for your reply, although I'm a little stuck at the moment. I was reading off the NVIDIA wiki pave and followed it. But there seems to be a problem. I had the nouveua-dri and liblg (or something) installed. It said I needed to remove those to install nvidia and nvidia-utils, so that's exactly what I did.

For some reason, it didn't work at first, but after a quick reboot it started to load up the KDE login manager. I was happy because I had thought it worked, when I realised my KeyBoard or Mouse didn't work. I couldn't type or point and click with my mouse. To solve this I tried to stop KDM from booting up when I ran it with the daemon, by pressing CTRL X a lot when I saw it say loading KDM. That's obviously not the smartest way to do it but it's the only way, I can't log in to do it any other way.

Now I'm on a terminal screen (no display manager) with a low resolution, with the drivers I had before the resolution even on the terminal screen was still higher, but it's small again. I think I didn't let something load properly, because I'm unable to use Pacman, and the prompt at the start of my lines says "[root@(none)]". :S

Basically I can't boot up and log in because the keyboard or mouse don't work, and terminal isn't working because I can't get to it without stopping KDM which breaks something and doesn't let terminal work anyway.

Any ideas? :S
Thanks.

wonder · 2010-07-16 18:16:54

"[root@(none)]". :S

means that in rc.conf you don't have a HOSTNAME set up at all

trilobyte- · 2010-07-16 18:21:15

Yes, I do. It's usually [root@(Fain)], but it only says that when I interupt it from loading completely.

litemotiv · 2010-07-16 21:09:20

if you load the fallback kernel instead you should be able to do normal system maintenance. from there it might be best to set your runlevel back to 3 in /etc/inittab, so you can experiment from the default kernel again without autostarting kdm.

good luck

ewaller · 2010-07-17 01:18:39

I realised my KeyBoard or Mouse didn't work

That generally means you don't have xf86-input-evdev installed, or, with xorg-server < 1.8, you don't have hal running.

Can you please verify your xorg-server version?
Can you provide a dump of /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?? I know that can be tough without Xorg running, so if you can't, take a look through the log for (EE) tags in the output -- especially if they talk about keyboards or mice.

trilobyte- · 2010-07-17 02:12:14

litemotiv wrote:

if you load the fallback kernel instead you should be able to do normal system maintenance. from there it might be best to set your runlevel back to 3 in /etc/inittab, so you can experiment from the default kernel again without autostarting kdm.
good luck

Hi.
I booted in to my Fallback kernal, but the same thing happened.KDM still started up, so it still came up with KDE loading and I couldn't use my mouse etc. and I can't seem to stop KDM booting up via that either.

That generally means you don't have xf86-input-evdev installed, or, with xorg-server < 1.8, you don't have hal running.
Can you please verify your xorg-server version?
Can you provide a dump of /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?? I know that can be tough without Xorg running, so if you can't, take a look through the log for (EE) tags in the output -- especially if they talk about keyboards or mice.

I never installed xf86-input-evdev manually, so that could be the problem. I also don't have a hal running obviously for it ether.
I'm still pretty new to linux, even though I've had experience with Fedora. Could you please explain how I could verify my Xorg-server version, provide the dump for /var/log/Xorg.0.log or how I can look through the EE tags with the output?

I have a feeling I wont be able to do tihs, because I can't stop KDM loading up, and I can't use my keyboard for CTRL ALT F3 or whatever to get a terminal on there. I think reinstalling may be the best way to go?

ewaller · 2010-07-17 02:28:07

All of the following can be done on the console:

xorg version can be determined by: pacman -Qs xorg-server

look through /var/log/Xorg.0.log by: less /var/log/Xorg.0.log
find EE by typing a '/' followed by "EE<return>"
find the next one by typing "/<return>"
move up/down using arrows or j or k
go to the last line by typing "G"
go to the first line by typing "1G"

are you running sshd? If so, log in from another computer that will run Xorg and a terminal window (konsole, xterm, etc...) do a cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log , copy the text output to the clipboard, and paste it into your browser

trilobyte- · 2010-07-17 02:31:16

Hi.

Thank you so much for the help, but I've decided to go the easy way and re-install arch (as it doesn't really take that long). This time I will not be installing anything with nouveau, and just install the nvidia and nvidia-utils like the main Wiki page says. I will also install Xorg. Although I'm curious, it says that the Nvidia auto-config tool automatically configures Xorg for you, is that corrent?

This time I'll not set KDM as a daemon until I'm sure it works properly.
Also, what must I install for my keyboard and mouse to work using the Nvidia driver that automatically configures Xorg? Was it xf86-input-evdev? And is there any configuration needed for it?

Thank you.

JackH79 · 2010-07-17 03:43:23

trilobyte- wrote:

Although I'm curious, it says that the Nvidia auto-config tool automatically configures Xorg for you, is that corrent?

Have a look at the Nvidia wiki page and read the warning in the "Automatic Configuration" section. For starters, it's probably a good idea to try running X without a xorg.conf.

trilobyte- wrote:

Also, what must I install for my keyboard and mouse to work using the Nvidia driver that automatically configures Xorg? Was it xf86-input-evdev? And is there any configuration needed for it?

http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beg … r_Packages

It might be a good idea to just read the whole section of installing X before you begin actually installing it, so that you understand what's going on.

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trilobyte- · 2010-07-17 05:24:52

Thank you, this is now solved. I've booted in to KDE succesfully with the nvidia drivers and keyboard + mouse working.

Inxsible · 2010-07-17 05:28:12

trilobyte- wrote:

Thank you, this is now solved. I've booted in to KDE succesfully with the nvidia drivers and keyboard + mouse working.

Congratulations !..

also once your questions are answered, it helps if you edit your first post and put [SOLVED] before your subject line. That way someone else with a same or similar problem can quickly get to solutions.

trilobyte- · 2010-07-17 07:24:17

Sorry about that, I forgot to add the tags. Adding them now. Thanks for everyone's help.

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