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#26 2010-07-15 11:13:43

Dr.X
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Re: [SOLVED] Downgrade to nvidia-173xx

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#27 2010-07-15 11:22:04

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Re: [SOLVED] Downgrade to nvidia-173xx

Try renaming xorg.conf to sth else - maybe w/o that file xorg-server will start.

Post your .xinitrc.
Are you running startx as root? If not post the output of 'groups' for the user.

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#28 2010-07-15 12:39:34

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Re: [SOLVED] Downgrade to nvidia-173xx

.xinitrc:

numlockx &
Thunar --daemon &
exec ck-launch-session openbox-session

/etc/group: http://pastebin.org/397434

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#29 2010-07-15 12:46:33

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Re: [SOLVED] Downgrade to nvidia-173xx

Reinstall all nvidia packages, rename / remove xorg.conf and try 'startx' again.

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#30 2010-07-15 13:26:54

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Re: [SOLVED] Downgrade to nvidia-173xx

nvidia-173xx I must use with -d key, because kernel26<2.6.33. -utils reinstalled without problems. After removing xorg.conf I have error about not found driver. It searches nv, vesa, but not nvidia.
Maybe dmesg output helps? http://pastebin.org/397392

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#31 2010-07-15 13:40:27

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Re: [SOLVED] Downgrade to nvidia-173xx

> nvidia-173xx I must use with -d key
What do you mean? It should install cleanly.

> Maybe dmesg output helps?
Kernel logs are a better idea - /var/log/kernel.log

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#32 2010-07-15 13:46:25

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Re: [SOLVED] Downgrade to nvidia-173xx

> What do you mean? It should install cleanly.
It conflicts with kernel26-<2.6.33. Could I downgrade to 32?
kernel.log: http://pastebin.org/397480

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#33 2010-07-15 13:47:48

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Re: [SOLVED] Downgrade to nvidia-173xx

Dr.X wrote:

After removing xorg.conf I have error about not found driver. It searches nv, vesa, but not nvidia.

That's normal, nvidia is not on the list of drivers to try automatically. You need a minimal xorg.conf:

Section "Device"
    Identifier    "Nvidia card"
    Driver        "nvidia"
EndSection

However, you first need a working module. Does a simple "modprobe nvidia" work? Makes no sense to try and get X running if you can't load the module. So if you can't load the module, reinstall the driver, and if you still don't have the module, try to figure out why that is. Dealing with X will come afterwards.

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#34 2010-07-15 13:55:02

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Re: [SOLVED] Downgrade to nvidia-173xx

Dr.X wrote:

> What do you mean? It should install cleanly.
It conflicts with kernel26-<2.6.33. Could I downgrade to 32?
kernel.log: http://pastebin.org/397480

Err, what I see in the package is

depend = kernel26>=2.6.33
depend = kernel26<2.6.34

so 2.6.33 is exactly the kernel you should be using.

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#35 2010-07-15 13:57:15

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Re: [SOLVED] Downgrade to nvidia-173xx

> It conflicts with kernel26-<2.6.33
Now you're telling me?! No wonder we couldn't get it to work.
http://arm.konnichi.com/2010/05/05/core … pkg.tar.xz should work as it was in the repos at that time.
http://arm.konnichi.com/2010/05/05/extr … pkg.tar.xz
http://arm.konnichi.com/2010/05/05/extr … pkg.tar.gz


> Does a simple "modprobe nvidia" work?
No ...

> so 2.6.33 is exactly the kernel you should be using.
Exactly!


Maybe you should use http://arm.konnichi.com/2010/05/05/  as your mirror and upgrade (or actually downgrade)  everything. Pacman should pick up the core, extra and community databases and act accordingly.

Use ttp://arm.konnichi.com/2010/05/05/ as your mirror address.
pacman -Syy to grab the package dbs
pacman -Suu to downgrade

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#36 2010-07-15 13:57:40

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Re: [SOLVED] Downgrade to nvidia-173xx

Gusar,
# modprobe nvidia
Fatal: module nvidia not found

if you still don't have the module, try to figure out why that is.

I and karol are trying to do that smile
After re-installing nvidia-173xx I saw the message: warning: nvidia module is not found in /proc/modules. Maybe simply download it and save there?

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#37 2010-07-15 14:02:25

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Re: [SOLVED] Downgrade to nvidia-173xx

> Maybe simply download it and save there?
Remember McHammer? "You can't touch this". /proc isn't a regular filesystem, you don't create files and directories there - /proc is managed by the kernel.

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#38 2010-07-15 14:07:42

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Re: [SOLVED] Downgrade to nvidia-173xx

Alright, let's try this...

After you install the driver, do you have a /lib/modules/2.6.33-ARCH/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko ?
And does "uname -r" say 2.6.33-ARCH ?

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#39 2010-07-15 14:28:21

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Re: [SOLVED] Downgrade to nvidia-173xx

> Remember McHammer? "You can't touch this". /proc is managed by the kernel.
Very demonstrative example smile

Allright, after downgrading kernel from karol's links I tried to install nvidia-173xx-all, nvidia-173xx-utils-glselect from AUR and xorg now works again!!! Thanks gusar and especially big thanks karol, you spend about half day for my problem))

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#40 2010-07-15 14:35:20

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Re: [SOLVED] Downgrade to nvidia-173xx

I re-read one of your first posts ... from yesterday

Dr.X wrote:

karol, thanks for ARM, from there I dowloaded nvidia-173xx-173.14.25-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz and nvidia-173xx-utils-173.14.25-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz (because 25-1 is same).

<bangs head on wall>

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#41 2010-07-15 14:41:33

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Re: [SOLVED] Downgrade to nvidia-173xx

> <bangs head on wall>
Why?

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#42 2010-07-15 14:53:13

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Re: [SOLVED] Downgrade to nvidia-173xx

Why? If I had given you those direct links back then it would be all over in under 5 minutes. Yes, quite often the version numbers don't match and I know that - I should have checked which packages did you install.

Consider my current setup:

[karol@black ~]$ sp -Qs xf86-input
local/xf86-input-evdev 2.4.0-1 [0,11 MB] (xorg-input-drivers)
    X.org evdev input driver
local/xf86-input-keyboard 1.4.0-2 [0,08 MB] (xorg-input-drivers)
    X.Org keyboard input driver
local/xf86-input-mouse 1.5.0-2 [0,11 MB] (xorg-input-drivers)
    X.org mouse input driver

keyboard is 1.4.0-2 and mouse is 1.5.0-2. Yes, it's weird, but it's correct.

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#43 2010-07-17 14:40:59

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Re: [SOLVED] Downgrade to nvidia-173xx

Hi guys,

Just to announce, if you don't know yet, nvidia-173xx is out as "prerelease" on nvidia forums and is working with Xorg1.8. Not yet on Aur but soon maybe ^^

I installed it yesterday and didn't noticed any bugs with my Geforce FX5200.


Have a nice day wink

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