Rhythmbox and Banshee are out of date

TemplarGR · 2010-09-05 17:41:05

I am wondering what is the reason those two important applications are out of date?

Rhythmbox latest stable is 0.13.0 and Arch is still providing 0.12.8, which is quite old and is flagged out of date for some time.

Banshee's latest version is 1.7.5 and Arch is still providing 1.6.1, and this has been also flagged out of date for months...

So two of the major gtk+ music applications are ignored while Amarok is always up-to-date.

Why this happens?

Is there a dependency problem? Is it a mainteiner problem?

If it is simply a mainteiner issue, shouldn't others step up and update them?

I would do it myself but i am not a TU.

Last edited by TemplarGR (2010-09-05 17:44:31)

anonymous_user · 2010-09-05 18:07:40

About Banshee:

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=104136

wonder · 2010-09-05 18:09:51

both of them are development versions and i think you know already that in arch we pack latest _stable_ versions

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tomk · 2010-09-05 18:21:53

Rhythmbox site wrote:

The latest stable release is 0.13.0

That's just FYI, wonder - I guess you know something we don't?

wonder · 2010-09-05 18:37:44

tomk wrote:

Rhythmbox site wrote:
The latest stable release is 0.13.0
That's just FYI, wonder - I guess you know something we don't?

yeah. depends of glib2 unstable. see last entry in the list. stable release that depends on unstable versions. pretty unstable to me, until glib2 is released as stable

DBUS_MIN_REQS=0.35
GST_0_10_REQS=0.10.20
GTK_REQS=2.18.0
GLIB_REQS=2.18.0
GNOME_MEDIA_PROFILES_REQS=2.8
LIBNOTIFY_REQS=0.4.1
LIBGPOD_REQS=0.6
MUSICBRAINZ_REQS=2.1.0
MUSICBRAINZ3_REQS=3.0.2
NCB_MIN_REQS=2.21.6
BRASERO_MIN_REQS=0.9.1
TOTEM_PLPARSER_REQS=2.26.0
VALA_REQS=0.1.0
AVAHI_REQS=0.6
LIBSOUP_REQS=2.26.0
GUDEV_REQS=143
LIBMTP_REQS=0.3.0
PYGOBJECT_REQUIRED=2.15.4
WEBKIT_MIN_REQS=1.1.17
GLIB_GDBUS_REQS=2.25.6

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TemplarGR · 2010-09-05 20:39:06

That's what i wanted to know(about glib2) wonder. I find it reasonable that Rhythmbox isn't updated yet.

But Banshee's site advertises 1.7.x versions and not 1.6.1 so i guess they are meant to be used by the general public. Just visit their site banshee.fm and see for yourself.

Anyway it is nice to know these are your decisions and not lack of interest. Thanks for your reply.

wonder · 2010-09-05 20:52:44

actually they said that distributions should not push 1.7.x because is a development branch and is not stable at all

alez · 2010-09-06 14:54:05

It would be nice (maybe) to have banshee 1.7.* on repos, but it's not a big problem at all since there's banshee-git on AUR. I think it's worth using the git version.

Last edited by alez (2010-09-06 14:54:56)

Sloshy · 2010-09-07 17:24:53

I can confirm that Rhythmbox 0.13.1 is, in fact, stable and it does compile correctly; the true reason for it not compiling and being included in the official repositories, I have found, is the absence of libdmapsharing in the official repositories. It can be found on AUR, and it does install correctly as of a couple days ago, when I added a compile option so DAAP support works in Rhythmbox correctly. If you install the latest libdmapsharing and use this PKGBUILD along with the original rhythmbox.install file, You can install and use Rhythmbox 0.13.1 without any problems. I have sent the modified PKGBUILD to the Rhythmbox package maintainer, and am waiting for a response. Vote libdmapsharing into the official repositories so we can get an official 0.13.1 soon!

Banshee's latest versions are development releases, but Rhythmbox only releases stable releases, last I checked. I hope this method works for you; it does for me!

Last edited by Sloshy (2010-09-07 18:19:02)

wonder · 2010-09-18 09:46:31

Sloshy wrote:

I can confirm that Rhythmbox 0.13.1 is, in fact, stable and it does compile correctly; the true reason for it not compiling and being included in the official repositories, I have found, is the absence of libdmapsharing in the official repositories. It can be found on AUR, and it does install correctly as of a couple days ago, when I added a compile option so DAAP support works in Rhythmbox correctly. If you install the latest libdmapsharing and use this PKGBUILD along with the original rhythmbox.install file, You can install and use Rhythmbox 0.13.1 without any problems. I have sent the modified PKGBUILD to the Rhythmbox package maintainer, and am waiting for a response. Vote libdmapsharing into the official repositories so we can get an official 0.13.1 soon!
Banshee's latest versions are development releases, but Rhythmbox only releases stable releases, last I checked. I hope this method works for you; it does for me!

maybe is stable but the fact is that you are building legacy stuff with using glib 2.24. When building against 2.25 you would enable gdbus and potentially lose some dependencies because of that

TemplarGR · 2010-09-30 08:36:10

Well now Banshee 1.8 is out and i believe glib 2.26 too... Let us hope we GNOME users get some love now

lenzy · 2010-10-02 23:20:35

when will the update come?

anonymous_user · 2010-10-03 01:22:32

The new Rhythmbox is currently in the testing repo.

lenzy · 2010-10-03 08:38:47

and what about banshee?

Allan · 2010-10-03 08:44:55

Banshee 1.8 has only been release a few days so give the maintainer some time...

fincan · 2010-10-04 00:39:22

Gstreamers's new versions are waiting on the fly some long time, Archy almost has full uptodate packages but multimedia packages' renewing becomes slower than before.

bkadoctaj · 2010-10-09 03:32:03

Currently, Banshee 1.8 is available in the AUR here:
http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=41565

Unfortunately, however, I seem to be having trouble importing songs to the library... Banshee insists that the files cannot be found.

TemplarGR · 2010-10-09 07:19:16

Allan wrote:

Banshee 1.8 has only been release a few days so give the maintainer some time...

We certainly appreciate all your efforts. I wish i had more time to contribute to Arch myself. It is time-consuming to maintain a simple package, let alone lots of them.

But still, i would like to complain about what i perceive as Arch developers' favour for KDE(or qt apps if you prefer) over GNOME(gtk apps)...

I will provide an example:

I have noticed that Amarok tends to be updated almost instantly with each version. Amarok 2.3.2 was released on 20 September see here http://amarok.kde.org/en/releases/2.3.2

and a second release of this package hit extra 4 days later http://www.archlinux.org/packages/?q=amarok

Obviously it was in testing much sooner than that...

While Banshee 1.8 was released in 29 of September http://banshee.fm/download/archives/1.8.0/

, and until now it is not even in testing... About 11 days later.

So what is the problem this time? If it is a dependency problem i could understand it of course, like with Rhythmbox. But it appears Banshee has no such problem. So this means lack of interest in maintening an important media application for (mostly) Gnome users.

tomk · 2010-10-09 07:40:27

Congratulations TemplarGR - you've just closed this thread.

The "problem" this time is the same as any other time - the developer who deals with this package has not yet found the time to update it. Anyone who really considers this a problem should strongly consider changing their distro, as it is something that will occur regularly, due to the inconvenient fact that the Arch developers work for free and in their spare time.

Inxsible · 2010-10-09 18:23:12

TemplarGR wrote:

I wish i had more time to contribute to Arch myself. It is time-consuming to maintain a simple package, let alone lots of them.

You consider your time to be more important to do something other than contributing to Arch, but will not afford the same to people who actually maintain/develop Arch. that's just hypocratic.

P.S: That's the reason, I just close these kinds of threads when I first see them. There is just no point to these types of discussions.

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Rhythmbox and Banshee are out of date

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