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luisfeser

Member

From: Spain / España

Registered: 2004-02-21

Posts: 53

kcontrol hangs my system :(

Hi all,

Well, one month ago i had archlinux in my system, but i changed to debian because kcontrol hanged my system, and amsn didn't work.

Today i return to archlinux and kcontrol still hanging my system!!! simply open kcontrol and the system hangs, i can do nothing, only reset the PC with button

I don't know why, but is very frustrating.

Any body knows anything about this??

My machine:
abit an7, amd athlon mobile 2500+ @ 2100Mhz, 1Gb ram, soundblaster live (the motherboard sound is disabled), geforce4 mx420.

Snowman

Developer/Forum Fellow

From: Montreal, Canada

Registered: 2004-08-20

Posts: 5,212

Re: kcontrol hangs my system :(

When you installed KDE, did you followed the instructions in the wiki? Try running it in a terminal and maybe use gdb or strace to get debugging info.

luisfeser

Member

From: Spain / España

Registered: 2004-02-21

Posts: 53

Re: kcontrol hangs my system :(

Yes, i have read the wiki. There is one thing that can cause problems:

==> dbus and hal from testing repository are incompatible with kde at the moment.

from here:
http://wiki2.archlinux.org/index.php/KDE

I have dbus and hal in my rc.conf, i have to remove these daemons??

But some lines down, wiki writes:

* Dbus/Hal Stuff:

==> Please add 'dbus' 'hal' to rc.conf daemon's list for full media:/ kioslave experience.
==> 'pacman -S dbus hal'

What is right or wrong?

Nobody has my problem?

What is gdb and strace? how can i try it?

Thanks

Snowman

Developer/Forum Fellow

From: Montreal, Canada

Registered: 2004-08-20

Posts: 5,212

Re: kcontrol hangs my system :(

Check what version of hal/dbus is installed.  If it's:
hal 0.4.7.1
dbus 0.23.2-3
or lower you should be fine.  Still, you can remove them from rc.conf to see if it solves your problem.

gdb is a debugger (pacman -S gdb)
to use:
gdb kcontrol
then type run at the (db) prompt. I don't know if gdb will work for kcontrol  (it doesn't for me :? )

strace is a debug tool (pacman -S strace.
to use:
strace kcontrol

luisfeser

Member

From: Spain / España

Registered: 2004-02-21

Posts: 53

Re: kcontrol hangs my system :(

Yes, i have these versions.

I stoped hal and dbus and exec "strace kcontrol" and.... hangs

But i can't read the strace because kcontrol is over xterm.... How can i save the strace output in an archive for reading after kcontrol crash the system?

gdb doesn't work with kcontrol.

luisfeser

Member

From: Spain / España

Registered: 2004-02-21

Posts: 53

Re: kcontrol hangs my system :(

k3b hangs my system too

i don't know what to do. AL and my PC are incompatibles?? may be i change my distro....

tpowa

Developer

From: Lauingen , Germany

Registered: 2004-04-05

Posts: 2,328

Re: kcontrol hangs my system :(

please run pacman -Syu
then pacman -S kde
and check if it works again after that
and also try a new created user

luisfeser

Member

From: Spain / España

Registered: 2004-02-21

Posts: 53

Re: kcontrol hangs my system :(

My home was new, so i think that the problem isn't in ~/.kde and .qt, also i removed my .kde directory two times with the same result

And i installed AL 2 days ago, and all packages was in last version (of stable release, no testing).

But now i'm installing gentoo, maybe i'll try AL in few months...

dp

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From: Zürich, Switzerland

Registered: 2003-05-27

Posts: 3,378

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Re: kcontrol hangs my system :(

what kernel do you use?
do you use hotplug?
is there some info from the logs or dmesg what happened while hanging?

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luisfeser

Member

From: Spain / España

Registered: 2004-02-21

Posts: 53

Re: kcontrol hangs my system :(

I used kernel vanilla 2.6.11 (the same that i used in debian)
Yes, i used hotplug.
And i couldn't find some info in logs (i forgot dmesg).

dp

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From: Zürich, Switzerland

Registered: 2003-05-27

Posts: 3,378

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Re: kcontrol hangs my system :(

thanx

2.6.11.3? 2.6.11.5? 2.6.11.7?

if you by chance have this arch installtion still available, check dmesg ... if not, never mind (i cannot reproduce this hanging)

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luisfeser

Member

From: Spain / España

Registered: 2004-02-21

Posts: 53

Re: kcontrol hangs my system :(

Was only 2.6.11

I haven't got AL now, i formated this partitions for gentoo. If i have time this week i'll do a partition for AL and if this bug persist i'll write here.

Thanks