Nvidia 96xx and xorg 1.9 unable to boot

leberyo · 2010-10-06 03:48:46

Hi, I have an older Nvidia card that I was using with the older 96xx drivers. When xorg 1.8 came out I had issues with the driver but somebody pointed out that adding one setting to xorg.conf would make things work, which it did. Now after I did a pacman -Syu and xorg upgraded to 1.9 I can't boot xorg anymore. I tried installing the nouveau drivers as well but the system won't boot at all and will just hang with a cursor on the screen. Is there any way I can recover my installation?

Thx

okplayer02 · 2010-10-06 09:58:30

Well the best advice i can say is downgrade your xorg to the previous version. As of right now there is no support from nvidia for your graphics card with xorg 1.9. Also i would recommend you pay attention to what is upgraded. I had the same issue with my 173xx card it was not supported in the beginning with xorg 1.9. So i did an ignore pkg in my pacman.conf so that it would not upgrade these packages with xorg.

http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dow … g_Packages
that is the link on the wiki on how to downgrade packages
and you can search in the wiki on specifically about xorg downgrading

karol · 2010-10-06 10:01:42

Just boot into the console and downgrade to xorg 1.8 for the time being.

leberyo · 2010-10-06 16:29:38

I don't have xorg 1.8 in my pacman cache anymore though.

karol · 2010-10-06 16:34:39

http://arm.konnichi.com/search/

na12 · 2010-10-06 20:20:01

And which packages need to be downgraded except xserver?

karol · 2010-10-06 20:29:41

I don't know what your setup is, so I can't tell you exactly, but

xorg-server xorg-server-common xf86-input-evdev xf86-input-keyboard xf86-input-mouse xf86-input-synaptics xf86-video-vesa xkeyboard-config

is a nice start.
IIRC, xorg-server-common is xorg 1.9 specific, so the package will be just uninstalled. If you don't have a touchpad, you don't need xf86-input-synaptics at all etc.

addr · 2010-10-07 17:22:47

What happens to people with an Nvidia chip doing a fresh install?

karol · 2010-10-07 17:29:20

addr wrote:

What happens to people with an Nvidia chip doing a fresh install?

Nothing. Unless you update your system from the 2010.05 state to the current one ;P Seriously though, you can pick ARM as your server and stay a little bit behind.

There are at least three different closed nvidia drivers + two open and they are being worked on as we speak. Just because something didn't work a week ago, doesn't mean it won't work tomorrow. (unfortunately it works the other way round too)

addr · 2010-10-09 18:50:14

OK, what I meant was using Net Install it is going to pull in xorg 1.9 isn't it?

karol · 2010-10-09 19:23:27

addr wrote:

OK, what I meant was using Net Install it is going to pull in xorg 1.9 isn't it?

pacman will use whatever valid source you throw at him: your private repo with packages compiled for i586, ARM or an up-to-date mirror.
I have an old Intel card that won't work with the current drivers, so I need to pick some older ones.
Pacman is just a package manager - it should help me with dependencies, but that's it.

DSpider · 2010-10-30 15:11:57

I too did a pacman -Syu last night and now it won't boot.

Can't pacman be made to check with lspci so it won't break compatibility like this ? Seems to me like it will BLINDLY install anything you type as long as it's in the repository. Even ATI drivers I bet. I think it should come with some sort of warning, prompting the user it could break compatibility and that he could risk his system not booting. Or is that implied with Arch Linux ?

I've been beating my head on the desk for the last 4 hours trying to figure it out. Can anyone PLEASE post a method for getting nvidia-96xx to work ? Probably by downgrading xorg and xorg dependencies... How do I do that ? Step by step, from changing the mirrorlist and using pacman. Thank you.

I tried:

pacman -Rd xorg-server-common
pacman -U http://www.linux.uz/archlinux/i686/xorg-server-1.8.1.902-1-i686.pkg.tar.xz

But it obviously complained about dependecies. I think the mirror is from Uzbekistan... D'oh. I think I also need to blacklist xorg by doing a sudo nano /etc/pacman.conf:

IgnorePkg = xorg-server xorg-server-common xf86-input-evdev xf86-input-keyboard xf86-input-mouse
...and what else? I'm not using a laptop so I don't need to blacklist "xf86-input-synaptics" too.

Last edited by DSpider (2010-10-30 15:29:44)

jonathan183 · 2010-10-31 13:13:57

pacman is a package manager, pacman has no idea if a particular package will break a system.
Backup the pacman cache before you clear it will mean you will always be able to restore your system to a working state without having to rely on external mirrors etc (the last 2 versions should get you out of most things).
I use old nvidia drivers and have in pacman.conf

IgnorePkg   = xf86-input-keyboard xf86-input-mouse xf86-input-evdev xorg-server xorg-server-utils xkeyboard-config

I had issues as well with initial upgrades info https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php … 37#p647837 ... current version of packages on my system listed below ...

nvidia-96xx 96.43.18-1
nvidia-96xx-utils 96.43.18-2
xf86-input-evdev 2.4.0-2
xf86-input-keyboard 1.4.0-2
xf86-input-mouse 1.5.0-2
xf86miscproto 0.9.3-1
xf86vidmodeproto 2.3-1
xkeyboard-config 1.8-1
xorg-apps 7.5-3
xorg-fonts-100dpi 1.0.1-3
xorg-fonts-75dpi 1.0.1-3
xorg-fonts-alias 1.0.2-1
xorg-fonts-encodings 1.0.3-1
xorg-fonts-misc 1.0.1-1
xorg-font-utils 7.5-2
xorg-res-utils 1.0.3-3
xorg-server 1.8.1.902-1
xorg-server-common 1.9.0-1
xorg-server-utils 7.5-6
xorg-twm 1.0.4-3
xorg-xauth 1.0.4-1
xorg-xinit 1.2.1-1
xorg-xkb-utils 7.5-2
xproto 7.0.18-1

ChoK · 2010-11-01 00:30:05

The nouveau driver supports old cards and is kept in sync with xorg (and has good 2d performance I heard sometimes better than nvidia). Maybe you can give it a try.

leberyo · 2010-11-07 18:59:02

I tried the nouveau drivers as per the wiki instructions but it just gives me a black screen without logging in.

ChoK · 2010-11-07 22:06:59

can you post your /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?

stryder · 2010-11-08 02:16:11

The latest nvidia-96xx (96.43.19-1) seems to be OK with xorg-server (1.9.2-1) - what I am using now.

72linus · 2010-11-11 23:14:56

see here
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions … ost4156227

dont use any vga= parameter in your grub/lilo configs

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#1 2010-10-06 03:48:46

Nvidia 96xx and xorg 1.9 unable to boot

#2 2010-10-06 09:58:30

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