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#1 2005-04-19 16:21:33

xeo
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Xmms eats many resources

I use archlinux 0.7.  Gimp and opera goes good on fluxbox, on my celeron 563, 192mb ram. But when I starts xmms, opera goes slowly, the gimp does the same. What's the problem?

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#2 2005-04-19 23:44:36

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Re: Xmms eats many resources

Is your Audio and Video both on-board or a dedicated card? I would attribute the speed drop to your system specs, depending on the answer to the first question. Nothing against the machine, but it is becoming dated.


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#3 2005-04-21 13:56:03

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Re: Xmms eats many resources

My computer: celeron 500@563, 192mb ram, riva tnt2 16mb video card, creative sb pci 128. I use alsadriver.

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#4 2005-04-21 14:25:54

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Re: Xmms eats many resources

You could give bmp (beep media player) a try and check, if it slows down your system as well.

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#5 2005-04-22 11:58:26

xeo
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Re: Xmms eats many resources

lucke wrote:

You could give bmp (beep media player) a try and check, if it slows down your system as well.

I've tried and it also do the same.

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#6 2005-04-22 13:01:40

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Re: Xmms eats many resources

What type of music(mp3,ogg, other) are you playing ?

show us the output of 'top' while playing music.

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#7 2005-04-24 23:41:28

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Re: Xmms eats many resources

xeo wrote:

My computer: celeron 500@563, 192mb ram, riva tnt2 16mb video card, creative sb pci 128. I use alsadriver.

might as well be a problem with overclocking the cpu from 500 to 563mhz. go with the defaults, then step by step upwards to where you want to be and see what happens. these 63mhz do more harm than good anyway from my experience.

way back in the past i have had a pci128 too and it caused a lot of problems on my overclocked system. since when the FSB is being clocked higher the PCI bus will automaticly align itself as well. so the card may get more than the standard 33mhz or something. check the manual of your board. smile


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#8 2005-04-25 13:11:00

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Re: Xmms eats many resources

Yeah, overclocking is only for pros.

I once overclocked my pIII by increasing the FSB from 100 to 115 (x4.5).
After 3 months I had a compotent on my mainboard which looked like it had been on a barbecue for 2 hours. And my mainboard did not work anymore.

If you want to gain speed in linux, I suggest you buy a dual- or quad- processor mainboard. Compiling on these machines is a breeze. And linux support for these machines is good.

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#9 2005-04-25 20:14:41

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Re: Xmms eats many resources

Compiling is fast as hell on single-processor machines faster than 2 GHz, as it happens...

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#10 2005-05-05 12:45:58

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Re: Xmms eats many resources

I watched "top". xmms or bmp eats 20-50% cpu. I play mp3 and ogg.
My cpu ir oveclocked one year and i haven't any problems with it in other distros. Maybe kernel compiling will help with sound?

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#11 2005-05-05 18:07:45

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Re: Xmms eats many resources

tried any other media player than bmp / xmms?
Try with something else (like....muine, rhythmbox, or mpd), and if they use as much resources, try to compile a kernel of your own.


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#12 2005-05-06 15:51:46

xeo
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Re: Xmms eats many resources

I have tried mp3blaster ant it uses about 10-17% cpu. Isn't it too much?

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#13 2005-05-06 16:37:35

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Re: Xmms eats many resources

xeo wrote:

I have tried mp3blaster ant it uses about 10-17% cpu. Isn't it too much?

sounds much like you use a slow software soundcard like most cheap ac97 compatibles. try another card or see if your chipset is supported in the kernel or if configured correctly. it might be that it only works with some kind of generic driver. that almost always slows things down.
oh btw, do you use an PCI graphics card? if so, try a lower resolution/bpp. it might be that your PCI bus is a little stressed. ;p


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#14 2005-05-18 08:40:47

xeo
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Re: Xmms eats many resources

After kernel 2.6.11 compiling the problem exists. At first xmms use 5-10% cpu, but later it jumps over 20, or even 40% of cpu. It is similar and with alsa and with oss output.

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#15 2005-05-20 08:02:15

xeo
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Re: Xmms eats many resources

And without overclock problem exists. sad  sad

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#16 2005-05-20 08:16:48

xeo
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Re: Xmms eats many resources

Maybe alsa reinstaling and reconfiguring will help?

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#17 2005-05-21 15:06:02

xeo
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Re: Xmms eats many resources

Over knoppix 3.2 2.4.* kernel live cd, xmms in my computer use less than 1% cpu :!: . So, may it is 2.6 kernel problem? Should I use 2.4 kernel?

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#18 2005-06-01 08:49:15

xeo
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Re: Xmms eats many resources

On kernel 2.4.30 problem dissapeared. xmms uses ~1% cpu. But after every reboot I have to load sound manually with:
modprobe snd-ens1371
modprobe snd-pcm-oss
alsactl restore

How to automate this step?

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#19 2005-06-01 12:02:28

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Re: Xmms eats many resources

Add those modules to MODULES section of rc.conf or to /etc/modules.conf. And start /etc/rc.d/alsa (from alsa-utils package) on boot (DAEMONS section of rc.conf) to restore volume settings.

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