Users of Eclipse - Arch packages or self-maintained?

ngoonee · 2010-08-20 09:22:50

I've always used my own self-maintained Eclipse installation (in /home/LinuxProg) since I first started using Eclipse back in my Ubuntu days. Just today I was trying out eclim and had problems getting it working on that install, so I figured I would try out the Arch packages, and they 'just worked'.

I previously kept my Eclipse separate since it has its own updater and I would sometimes use it from Ubuntu, but I haven't done that in a year now so I figured there was no more advantage to using it the way I had before. So, a question to Eclipse users, how many of you DON'T use the Arch packages?

Inxsible · 2010-08-20 09:26:36

Until recently I used a local install in my /home. This was only because when you update, it wouldn't let you write into the eclipse directory if it was an OS install. I, then found a simple ini file change which would create a .eclipse folder in your home and install all user plugins there. So I adopted the eclipse-jee package in AUR and use that now which installs like the AUR package

samuele.mattiuzzo · 2010-08-20 09:42:02

i have my own version mantained by myself into my home directory, since version installed from aur always went conflicting with xulrunner, and also i had the same problem as Inxsible. since i'm used to this way, i'll stick with it for a while more

ngoonee · 2010-08-20 10:40:00

Yeah, I tried installing the Arch-supplied version before but the updater/plugin manager wouldn't be able to write to directories owned by root (obviously). I don't really like stuff being installed inside ~ itself, doesn't seem neat to me.

The other thing to wonder is if there are any plugins which AREN'T in the AUR, since if the whole eclipse marketplace (or the useful bits) are on the repos/AUR I'd much rather not have Eclipse updating itself at all.

jvalecillos · 2010-08-29 17:39:32

I prefer to have and standalone verión installed in my home directory. The reasons was that other have said. One adventage is portability.

gabriel9 · 2010-12-14 17:31:49

@Inxsible can you tell me where is that .ini file so i can install plugins without pulling my hair. And how to change it.

Last edited by gabriel9 (2010-12-14 17:37:03)

tvale · 2010-12-14 23:02:08

I use the arch package and never had to change even one line to install a plugin.

gabriel9 · 2010-12-14 23:28:52

Can you explain how? Do you install plugin from AUR or using Eclipse installer? I wish to use eclipse installer but half of the stuff don't work. Like this one: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/devel … index.html

tvale · 2010-12-15 09:03:58

I'll download it and see if it works.

tvale · 2010-12-15 10:06:11

That pack needs "Eclipse IDE for Java EE developers" so I installed the eclipse-jee* package from the AUR. Then installed Oracle enterprise pack by the update manager (http://download.oracle.com/otn_software/oepe/helios) and there it is.

Am I missing something? Should it create some menus or something? I quickly looked around and saw nothing.

* Comment the patching in the PKGBUILD, by the way. It didn't work for me; it supposedly fixes your problem by setting your configuration directory in ~/.config/eclipse but I believe by default it already does so in ~/.eclipse.

gabriel9 · 2010-12-15 10:43:36

Hi Tvale, ok i just uninstalled Eclipse again and tried to intall some plugins. And it works now. I didn't install nothing from AUR, just from update manager. This is strange. But it works now, and thank you for your help.

tinhtruong · 2010-12-20 15:47:23

I always maintain my Eclipse installation and never use an Arch package, the same for Ant, Maven, Groovy, Grails. The reason for this is Arch is a rolling release distro, it's not that easy to turn back time to use an old version to reproduce a bug, or update to the new version to try the latest and greatest stuff because the maintainer does not catch up with the upstream projects.

sigmund · 2011-03-14 08:06:11

I maintain separate Eclipse installations by a simple, free and smart app named Pulse from poweredbypulse.com.

The advantages of using Pulse are many because it automagically updates everything from the standard environment to every plug-in (small like svn or "big" like pdt,cdt, jdt with no issues), it lets you propagate in just a few minutes a complete set of profiles to many different workstations that will share every option you have chosen from one place, it is cross platform and you can trust Genuitec because they are true Eclipse contributors that will never spam you in any way.

It's so easy to run multiple Eclipse installations with no binaries duplicates that I have been never looking for distros packages for a couple of years.

I really think that Pulse should be a must for every Eclipse user who is not interested in becoming an expert of the Eclipse inner details, but just a satisfied and a proficient user of a fully customized/able environment.

ngoonee · 2011-03-14 08:22:56

sigmund wrote:

I maintain separate Eclipse installations by a simple, free and smart app named Pulse from poweredbypulse.com.
The advantages of using Pulse are many because it automagically updates everything from the standard environment to every plug-in (small like svn or "big" like pdt,cdt, jdt with no issues), it lets you propagate in just a few minutes a complete set of profiles to many different workstations that will share every option you have chosen from one place, it is cross platform and you can trust Genuitec because they are true Eclipse contributors that will never spam you in any way.
It's so easy to run multiple Eclipse installations with no binaries duplicates that I have been never looking for distros packages for a couple of years.
I really think that Pulse should be a must for every Eclipse user who is not interested in becoming an expert of the Eclipse inner details, but just a satisfied and a proficient user of a fully customized/able environment.

While I appreciate your contribution and suggestion, I think the overall tone of your post sounds just like a marketing video. Seriously, 'you can trust X because Y'?

In any case, I may look into that once I'm done with my PhD. Thanks.

sigmund · 2011-03-14 08:39:30

ngoonee wrote:

sigmund wrote:
I maintain separate Eclipse installations by a simple, free and smart app named Pulse from poweredbypulse.com.
The advantages of using Pulse are many because it automagically updates everything from the standard environment to every plug-in (small like svn or "big" like pdt,cdt, jdt with no issues), it lets you propagate in just a few minutes a complete set of profiles to many different workstations that will share every option you have chosen from one place, it is cross platform and you can trust Genuitec because they are true Eclipse contributors that will never spam you in any way.
It's so easy to run multiple Eclipse installations with no binaries duplicates that I have been never looking for distros packages for a couple of years.
I really think that Pulse should be a must for every Eclipse user who is not interested in becoming an expert of the Eclipse inner details, but just a satisfied and a proficient user of a fully customized/able environment.
While I appreciate your contribution and suggestion, I think the overall tone of your post sounds just like a marketing video. Seriously, 'you can trust X because Y'?
In any case, I may look into that once I'm done with my PhD. Thanks.

Yes, you are probably right, but I am not paid by them at all. They are just good enough at it that I am simply so happy that I wanted to share the experience and give my 2cents tip.

Edit: Of course, Genuitec would like you to download and buy commercially packed profiles for Java and other languages, but the community free profiles are just nice for my professional use and I have never received any spamming mail from them on the account I had created for that purpose and a year ago I switched my email account to the one I am currently using for all the open source stuff.

Edit: If you do not pay a sort of yearly subscription (I have never paid) they will not let you quickly search the database that contains what is available and I have sometimes missed a useful plugin such as Eclox for Doxygen, but browsing for myself was enough to find it and add it to my profiles with some other add-ons I would not have otherwise discovered. Eheheh...

Edit.If you are interested in team development and - in this case - profiles sharing and cutomization depending on the user level, you have to subscribe but this is not needed by a single user like me who is trying to reinvent a new job.

Last edited by sigmund (2011-03-14 09:16:38)

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Users of Eclipse - Arch packages or self-maintained?

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