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#1 2011-01-12 20:39:09

manx
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Next Arch Snapshot - When?

Just wondering when the next official Arch snapshot is planned to be released.

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#2 2011-01-12 20:42:52

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Re: Next Arch Snapshot - When?

if you are interested about this, you should subscribe to arch-releng.

http://releng.archlinux.org/isos/

we now roll out weekly isos. Keep in mind that those are "experimental" and feedback regarding those are welcomed on the ml.

we need feedback!

Last edited by wonder (2011-01-12 20:44:42)


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#3 2011-01-12 21:31:48

manx
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Re: Next Arch Snapshot - When?

wonder - Thanks for the links to the weekly builds. I was under the impression that the Arch Dev Team planned to release official snapshots approx every six months or so - is this still the case?

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#4 2011-01-12 23:52:27

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Re: Next Arch Snapshot - When?

The plan was to make releases alongside major kernel upgrades, but plans are never really followed!

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#5 2011-01-13 02:22:22

manx
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Re: Next Arch Snapshot - When?

Allan wrote:

The plan was to make releases alongside major kernel upgrades, but plans are never really followed!

"The best laid plans..." - i understand completely. wink

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#6 2011-01-13 15:00:03

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Re: Next Arch Snapshot - When?

I wish for the next official release to have support to install the Syslinux bootloader.


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#7 2011-01-13 15:33:25

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Re: Next Arch Snapshot - When?

@OP the question is ...... How does it really matter?


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#8 2011-01-13 15:42:29

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Re: Next Arch Snapshot - When?

pyther wrote:

I wish for the next official release to have support to install the Syslinux bootloader.

And GPT support too (syslinux supports it). Please move away from cfdisk to normal fdisk (4K sector support), parted and gdisk combination.


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#9 2011-01-13 15:44:26

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Re: Next Arch Snapshot - When?

@pyther & skodabenz, I'm sure wishing aloud in a random forum thread will work just fine.


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#10 2011-01-13 15:50:25

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ngoonee wrote:

@pyther & skodabenz, I'm sure wishing aloud in a random forum thread will work just fine.

This has already been mentioned (or requested) many times in the irc and many other threads. I used archboot to install my system. But as an official iso, archiso needs to catch up to many modern technologies.

For starters, archlinux has to ditch grub legacy for syslinux (or grub2) as the default bootloader.

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#11 2011-01-13 15:52:10

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Re: Next Arch Snapshot - When?

skodabenz wrote:
ngoonee wrote:

@pyther & skodabenz, I'm sure wishing aloud in a random forum thread will work just fine.

This has already been mentioned (or requested) many times in the irc and many other threads. I used archboot to install my system. But as an official iso, archiso needs to catch up to many modern technologies.

Well then start hacking at it and deliver something.


Saying that archiso needs to catch up is tantamount to saying that the devs are not doing their jobs.

Either put up or shutup !!


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#12 2011-01-13 15:54:59

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Re: Next Arch Snapshot - When?

Inxsible wrote:

Well then start hacking at it and deliver something.

Saying that archiso needs to catch up is tantamount to saying that the devs are not doing their jobs.

Either put up or shutup !!

Sorry if I have offended anyone. I didn't mean to be rude. I have contributed to archlinux, (to the wiki) and to archboot specifically in form of implementing grub2 efi support ( http://projects.archlinux.org/archboot. … 6506610622 ). I am not yet fully proficient in aif or even bash for that matter, to hack on archiso/aif. But I will surely try to, sometime.

No doubt the devs are doing a great job. I understand everyone is contributing out of interest and good will. I just wanted to say that as a cutting edge distro (using python 3 as default, latest kernels etc.) we (myself included) should also try to incorporate the latest technologies wherever possible (in this case in the installer).

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#13 2011-01-13 16:36:52

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Re: Next Arch Snapshot - When?

It will as long at it takes and not a minute longer

These kind of threads always get peoples backs up and it will end up in tears

Devs do an amazing job for the money, without them no Arch, no Arch no forum!


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#14 2011-01-13 16:39:29

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Re: Next Arch Snapshot - When?

and I am sorry if I was too curt as well, but topics like these have been beaten to death (see package security) and it always boils down to the fact that there isn't an agreement on how to develop "whatever it is that is in question" or the devs don't have enough time to put into it for various reasons like personal life and work etc.

So either people need to step up to the plate OR just wait until the feature is developed by existing devs.


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#15 2011-01-15 22:45:40

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Re: Next Arch Snapshot - When?

+1 to what Mr Green and Inxsible,
i've spent a *lot* of time on releng stuff, and probably will continue to do so, but there's only so much I can do. if you want to help, run the testbuilds and report feedback, preferrably patch archiso/aif.


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#16 2011-01-15 22:50:54

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Re: Next Arch Snapshot - When?

Closing this one up, if anyone wants to provide patches or packages for the installation process, please use the appropriate mailinglists.


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