pacman bumps other networked pcs

linuxhippy · 2005-05-13 21:53:02

I just started using ARCH and have read over the ARCH WIKI to get my pc set up. All works pretty well now except for my Westell Versalink 1327W Wireless Router. When I use pacman on my ARCH pc that is wired to my Router, my router drops or bumps my networked wireless laptop that is on the internet off the internet. This isn't good-what can I do?

phrakture · 2005-05-13 22:02:18

sounds like a router issue, but let's diagnose a second:

try downloading (from the terminal) something .... let's say:

wget ftp://ftp.archlinux.org/other/pacman/pacman-2.9.5.tar.gz

see if that does the same thing... then try

snarf ftp://ftp.archlinux.org/other/pacman/pacman-2.9.5.tar.gz

and check that

it sounds like a network issue (e.g. not a software issue)

if both of those work, try uncommenting the wget line in pacman.conf (to use wget to download things)

linuxhippy · 2005-05-13 22:18:48

Both those commands for wget and snarf worked fine and my other networked pc didn't get bumped. I had already uncommented the wget line.

Maybe it's pacman?

phrakture · 2005-05-13 22:29:30

linuxhippy wrote:

Maybe it's pacman?

I highly doubt it... pacman is working 100% fine on hundreds of computers, wireless and wired...

Also, there is no way you can tell a computer "hey, boot joe's PC off the network" - are you sending floods of broadcast packets? I'm 99% sure this has to do with networking... what wireless driver are you using?

you also said that you had already uncommented the wget line... have you tried both with and without the wget line? and it does the same thing?

hmmmm the only difference between my "test" and what pacman does is that it hits multiple servers in sequence... maybe try testing that way?

linuxhippy · 2005-05-13 22:39:32

What happens is that pacman seems to be working fine, then I hear my networked pc internet radio connection start to skip and then my router resets. Then pacman hangs and the other pc stop streaming.

Probably a network thing-not sure what to do.

phrakture · 2005-05-13 23:07:58

3 things to try:
a) try it without the streaming radio (if you ever have network problems, it's best to cut everything down to the minimum to diagnose)
b) try upgrading your router's firmware... sometimes that helps
c) checkout "man wget" - there's a way to limit the transfer rate.... I'd say step that down to something managable and use that in the pacman wget line in pacman.conf

linuxhippy · 2005-05-13 23:36:31

ok-I did a ps -aux after pacman just hung/stopped in the middle of a repository refresh, and this is what I found:

/usr/sbin/dhcpcd -t 30 -h LinuxHippy eth0

I found before in Slackware that if I execute dhcpcd eth0 that my router will reset trying to find an IP. Pacman started dhcpcd this time (not me) or something else.

Stepping down my transfer rate sounds good-I'll look into that.

IceRAM · 2005-05-14 10:57:31

Hmm... maybe it's an install script doing that.
Could you download the htop package and choose tree mode. It will show you where that command is called, you could also kill it.

(or run "ps axjf" - it will display in treemode the processes - check the parrent of the dhcpcd, and the status of pacman).

My ideas...

linuxhippy · 2005-05-14 22:09:54

I limited wget to 90kB/s with:

wget --limit-rate 90k

This seemed to work. Verizon just doubled my DSL speed and I guess my old pc couldn't take it.

iphitus · 2005-05-14 23:16:20

The dhcpcd would have been the dhcpcd run by the network scripts at boot.

linuxhippy · 2005-05-15 01:27:12

Hmmm...I see it's still running and not causing problems. I think my pc just couldn't handle all the bandwith.

iphitus · 2005-05-15 04:26:52

It wasnt your pc, it was your router, im betting it was crashing under the load. common with cheapy routers.

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