Problem loading some sites in linux

na12 · 2011-01-30 17:42:28

Been a couple of days I have a problem with loading certain sites. First of all deviantart.com and softpedia.com. Starts to loading and never to finish (Softpedia finished loading, but it is very ugly page layout). And only on Linux, in Windows everything works as before. I tried every browser,and same thing happened.Also,I tried to remove coocies, but it did not help.If I use proxy sites,everything works normally.I thought, if something is not up to my ISP, but why then in Windows everything is fine.Here is a picture

Woofie · 2011-01-30 22:37:07

I have same problem as you, this sites can not properly load. I don't know which updated package can cause this. I test it only in opera and ff. Anyone else with this problem or advice how to track and solve it?

bernarcher · 2011-01-31 00:21:42

I just tried with midori: no problem at all both on http://www.softpedia.com/ and http://www.deviantart.com/

Either the problem is gone now or it does not affect webkit based browsers.

na12 · 2011-01-31 07:37:56

Same thing with midori and chrome,also I have same problems on mint too,it is not only arch related problem.

Woofie · 2011-01-31 11:53:49

as na12 said, I can confirm it on Debian and Gentoo as well. Both are up to date.

Ramses de Norre · 2011-01-31 11:59:00

Both load fine here on FF4.

Procyon · 2011-01-31 12:01:34

I once had this for only a few days. I didn't solve the problem, but it temporarily worked better by lowering the MTU. I lowered it to an extreme value like 500, after rebooting it resets itself, but by then I didn't have the problem anymore.

na12 · 2011-01-31 12:33:01

Procyon wrote:

I once had this for only a few days. I didn't solve the problem, but it temporarily worked better by lowering the MTU. I lowered it to an extreme value like 500, after rebooting it resets itself, but by then I didn't have the problem anymore.

I tried with MTU 1452(my ISP uses it),also tried with MTU 500,but it not helped.

defears · 2011-01-31 20:19:17

It almost looks like it's on a droid. Did you pick mobile device page layout? No java or flash? Maybe it thinks it's android linux in user agent?

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na12 · 2011-02-01 06:59:31

I don't know what it thinks,but I not pick anything.

R00KIE · 2011-02-01 14:21:07

Did you try blacklisting the ipv6 module? See how to do it in the wiki.

Awebb · 2011-02-01 15:09:00

R00KIE wrote:

Did you try blacklisting the ipv6 module? See how to do it in the wiki.

This should only be done if you identified it as a DNS problem caused by a non-existing IPv6 DNS server.

R00KIE · 2011-02-01 15:28:21

Awebb wrote:

R00KIE wrote:
Did you try blacklisting the ipv6 module? See how to do it in the wiki.
This should only be done if you identified it as a DNS problem caused by a non-existing IPv6 DNS server.

Some routers do crazy stuff when there is a client with ipv6 support, it's not hard to blacklist the module and not hard to revert the change and it's one less variable out of the equation.

smiechowy · 2011-02-02 22:24:17

i've got the same problem, i recently installed arch so it's clean. If it matters, on windows 7 pages look fine. Is there any solution for that?

na12 · 2011-02-04 07:25:33

R00KIE wrote:

Awebb wrote:
R00KIE wrote:
Did you try blacklisting the ipv6 module? See how to do it in the wiki.
This should only be done if you identified it as a DNS problem caused by a non-existing IPv6 DNS server.
Some routers do crazy stuff when there is a client with ipv6 support, it's not hard to blacklist the module and not hard to revert the change and it's one less variable out of the equation.

Blacklisting ipv6 module not helped,same thing again.

linas · 2011-02-04 12:45:36

If your connection for a resource (eg. the site CSS) gets reset, the truncated file may get cached, showing the page broken on every visit. Using a different browser (or same browser with a different profile, which is essentially what you do when changing OS) shows correctly because you don't have that broken data in cache.
Force a full reload of the affected page.

Last edited by linas (2011-02-04 12:46:08)

na12 · 2011-02-04 13:18:38

I already wrote that I cleared all my browsing data from every browser,but not helped.
The Opera went furthest in loading,I can see green layout,but it won't to finish loading.

Woofie · 2011-02-06 11:26:22

I test it same way (clear all browsing data and blacklist ipv6 module) but with no succes.

Mektub · 2011-02-06 14:15:03

OK, my big mystery: I don't have problems with devianart or softpedia, but since about 6 months I can not load tinypic.com.

I noticed it first on pages that had pictures linked to tinypic, but didn't give it much of a thought. About 15 days ago I started doing
some test and here is the situation:

Desktop: fully updated ARCH, FF last stable version, FF Beta 10, Chromium, Opera

With or without ipv6, with clean profile, also with new test user: does not load.

Laptop: multi-boot. win7, Arch, Archbang, Debian SID.

Arch: same as Desktop
Archbang, win7, Debian SID: loads without problems (!), any browser.

This left me completely baffled. Especially ArchBang.

The Laptop Arch has my aliases, functions and a couple of other ~/ dot files I copied from the desktop installation, but so has Archbang.

And I did test with a fresh user.

Traceroute to tinypic in Arch or Archbang are exactly equal.

I only noticed this phenomenon with tinypic, and I do browse a lot around.

Oh boy.

Mektub

R00KIE · 2011-02-06 15:58:40

Can you try using google's dns servers and/or opendns?

All those pages work fine here and as far as I can remember I never tweaked any settings. I do use dnsmasq on my machine with entries to google's dns servers, my isp's dns servers (obtained with dhcp from my router) and another dns server belonging to one university here.

This helps to keep my machine working well when my isp's (sapo) dns servers get slow or some dns server can't be reached. It might be that the dns servers being used can't resolve some addresses or take too long to do so and some things fail to load (some pages load stuff from many different places). It might be worth taking a look at noscript and similar stuff causing problems if someone is using that.

Mektub · 2011-02-06 16:47:05

R00KIE wrote:

Can you try using google's dns servers and/or opendns?

I had already tried, tried it again but no joy.

My /etc/resolv.conf are now alike in both Arch and Achbang:

nameserver 8.8.8.8
nameserver 192.168.1.1

And has said above, a traceroute to tinypic.com on both machines are completely alike, even the timings are similar.
both end at:

Arch: ae-21-56.car1.Denver1.Level3.net (4.68.107.166)  163.648 ms *  164.535 ms
Archbang: ae-21-54.car1.Denver1.Level3.net (4.68.107.102)  161.801 ms  164.079 ms

When I have the time (and patience) I will make a fresh installation of Arch in a spare partition and try it from there.

Mektub

smiechowy · 2011-02-06 17:10:39

i was reinstalling Arch twice last two weeks and it's still same. Clean arch + gnome +opera/chromium/firefox/epiphany and sites won't load correctly. I have no idea what might it be. I'm new in linux but i had windows 7 before (2 weeks ago) and there everything worked just fine

Mektub · 2011-04-13 16:32:31

To recapitulate what I said in post #19:

OK, my big mystery: I don't have problems with devianart or softpedia, but since about 6 months I can not load tinypic.com.
Desktop: fully updated ARCH, FF last stable version, FF Beta 10, Chromium, Opera
With or without ipv6, with clean profile, also with new test user: does not load.
Laptop: multi-boot. win7, Arch, Archbang, Debian SID.
Arch: same as Desktop
Archbang, win7, Debian SID: loads without problems (!), any browser.
This left me completely baffled. Especially ArchBang.

I did now a fresh installation of Arch (64bits) on my Desktop, situation as above, no joy.

But I then installed windows 7 on a virtual machine under VirtualBox and surprise ! I can access tinypic.com !
I then installed Arch in the same VB, and re-surprise! I also can access tinypic.com !

Go figure...

Mektub

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Problem loading some sites in linux

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