[SOLVED] Xorg 'Out of Scan Range, Change Timing Signal'

chris_debian · 2011-02-04 15:02:09

Hi, all!

I'm just doing a fresh install and having done my first reboot, I am trying desperately to configure X, before installing xfce.

I have an ATI Radeon card and a Sun-GDM5410 21" CRT monitor. Unfortunately, when I do 'startx', I get a message on my monitor saying

'Out of scan range...change timing signal'

I've tried created custom Xorg files instead of letting Xorg work it out, itself. This didn't solve the problem. So as not to further confuse myself, I have rm'd these files and have let X manage itself, again.

I've read and re-read the Xorg and ATI wiki guides, and Google'd around, but I can't get around this.

Any help really appreciated.

Cheers,

Chris.

Last edited by chris_debian (2011-02-05 18:00:28)

Bregol · 2011-02-04 17:37:38

Most important thing to diagnose this would be to post your Xorg log. And could you describe what you did in the custom xorg conf file to try and fix it?

Inxsible · 2011-02-04 17:44:34

If you haven't installed Xorg, how can you start X ?

chris_debian · 2011-02-04 18:03:03

Inxsible wrote:

If you haven't installed Xorg, how can you start X ?

Apologies, I meant to type 'xfce'.

Chris.

chris_debian · 2011-02-04 18:06:47

Bregol wrote:

Most important thing to diagnose this would be to post your Xorg log. And could you describe what you did in the custom xorg conf file to try and fix it?

Hi,

Haven't posted my xorg.log because I haven't been able to get it from that machine, yet. As you know, I can't cut and paste into anything yet and haven't installed any other tools.

With regard to xorg.conf, I tried to set-up a 'monitor' section with some default resolution and refresh rates that I have successfully used with other distros.

I currently have a LiveCD running LMDE, on the Arch box, so I could use that to get any good information that may help diagnose the problem.

Hope this helps.

Thanks,

Chris.

skunktrader · 2011-02-04 18:10:12

Please delete

Last edited by skunktrader (2011-02-04 18:11:08)

chris_debian · 2011-02-04 18:12:15

I did. I think it may be something to do with module that are loaded, possibly kms?

This is what the lsmod looks like from the LMDE installation; I'm using the Radeon driver for my ATI card.

mint@mint ~/Desktop $ uname -a
Linux mint 2.6.32-5-686 #1 SMP Tue Jun 1 04:59:47 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
mint@mint ~/Desktop $ lsmod
Module                  Size  Used by
ppdev                   4058  0 
lp                      5570  0 
sco                     5857  2 
bridge                 32987  0 
stp                      996  1 bridge
bnep                    7444  2 
rfcomm                 25167  0 
l2cap                  21705  6 bnep,rfcomm
crc16                   1027  1 l2cap
bluetooth              36327  6 sco,bnep,rfcomm,l2cap
speedstep_lib           2468  0 
cpufreq_userspace       1480  0 
cpufreq_stats           1940  0 
cpufreq_powersave        602  0 
cpufreq_conservative     4018  0 
binfmt_misc             4907  1 
fuse                   43758  1 
arc4                     974  2 
ecb                     1405  2 
rt61pci                15720  0 
crc_itu_t               1035  1 rt61pci
snd_intel8x0           19523  2 
rt2x00pci               3773  1 rt61pci
snd_ac97_codec         79148  1 snd_intel8x0
ac97_bus                 710  1 snd_ac97_codec
snd_pcm_oss            28671  0 
snd_mixer_oss          10461  1 snd_pcm_oss
rt2x00lib              19029  2 rt61pci,rt2x00pci
snd_pcm                47214  3 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
led_class               1757  1 rt2x00lib
radeon                508914  2 
snd_seq_midi            3576  0 
mac80211              123258  2 rt2x00pci,rt2x00lib
ttm                    33378  1 radeon
snd_rawmidi            12505  1 snd_seq_midi
cfg80211               87601  2 rt2x00lib,mac80211
drm_kms_helper         18305  1 radeon
snd_seq_midi_event      3684  1 snd_seq_midi
rfkill                 10264  4 bluetooth,cfg80211
snd_seq                35463  2 snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event
drm                   112020  4 radeon,ttm,drm_kms_helper
eeprom_93cx6             963  1 rt61pci
i2c_algo_bit            3497  1 radeon
i2c_i801                6462  0 
snd_timer              12258  2 snd_pcm,snd_seq
tpm_tis                 5496  0 
tpm                     8137  1 tpm_tis
parport_pc             15799  1 
snd_seq_device          3673  3 snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq
i2c_core               12696  5 radeon,drm_kms_helper,drm,i2c_algo_bit,i2c_i801
pcspkr                  1207  0 
tpm_bios                3569  1 tpm
shpchp                 21220  0 
evdev                   5609  10 
rng_core                2178  0 
parport                22554  3 ppdev,lp,parport_pc
snd                    34363  13 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device
pci_hotplug            18065  1 shpchp
soundcore               3450  1 snd
button                  3598  0 
processor              26599  0 
snd_page_alloc          5045  2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm
squashfs               16647  1 
loop                    9757  2 
aufs                  107674  1 
nls_utf8                 908  1 
isofs                  24608  1 
ide_generic              801  0 [permanent]
ide_core               59618  1 ide_generic
usbhid                 27980  0 
hid                    50629  1 usbhid
sg                     15968  0 
sr_mod                 10770  1 
sd_mod                 25869  0 
crc_t10dif              1012  1 sd_mod
cdrom                  26487  1 sr_mod
ata_generic             2019  0 
ata_piix               17640  1 
floppy                 40923  0 
thermal                 9206  0 
uhci_hcd               16057  0 
e100                   22317  0 
mii                     2714  1 e100
libata                115665  2 ata_generic,ata_piix
ehci_hcd               27763  0 
usbcore                98402  4 usbhid,uhci_hcd,ehci_hcd
scsi_mod              101401  4 sg,sr_mod,sd_mod,libata
nls_base                4541  3 nls_utf8,isofs,usbcore
thermal_sys             9378  2 processor,thermal

Last edited by chris_debian (2011-02-04 21:51:16)

Inxsible · 2011-02-04 18:26:02

please use [code ] [/code ] tags when pasting long files or outputs.

chris_debian · 2011-02-04 20:13:41

Inxsible wrote:

please use [code ] [/code ] tags when pasting long files or outputs.

My apologies. When I posted, I looked for, but did not see any formatting options.

Chris.

Inxsible · 2011-02-04 20:15:01

just edit the post and enclose your existing output listed with the tags without spaces.

chris_debian · 2011-02-04 20:20:17

Inxsible wrote:

just edit the post and enclose your existing output listed with the tags without spaces.

Indeed, thank you. I'm writing this on my 'phone, and that's not easy to correct. Will do correction when I get to my PC.

Thanks,

Chris.

Inxsible · 2011-02-04 20:21:18

chris_debian wrote:

Inxsible wrote:
just edit the post and enclose your existing output listed with the tags without spaces.
Indeed, thank you. I'm writing this on my 'phone, and that's not easy to correct. Will do correction when I get to my PC.
Thanks,
Chris.

Ahh ! Fair enough !

Bregol · 2011-02-05 00:47:11

chris_debian wrote:

Haven't posted my xorg.log because I haven't been able to get it from that machine, yet. As you know, I can't cut and paste into anything yet and haven't installed any other tools.

Perhaps if you were able to copy the log to a flash drive or something, then either use a livecd or another computer to then pull the log from the flash drive.

chris_debian · 2011-02-05 13:43:42

Some progress :-)

I won't mark the post as [SOLVED] until I have an Xsession running properly, as a user.

For others with this problem, this is what I did.

Learning from a previous Gentoo installation (which I do occasionaly for the challenge!), I looked at this Xorg guide:

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml#doc_chap3

Particularly the section entitled 'Automatic Generation of xorg.conf'

I did

Xorg -configure

followed by

X -retro -config /root/xorg.conf.new

This gave me a black screen with a cursor (X) that I could move (result!). No 'out of range' message.

I then did

cp /root/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf

and got twm running with three terminal windows!!! :-)

I should mention that if X fails to start because xclock couldn't be found (or xterm or any of sample app.), just go into

/etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc

and comment out the relevant line. This happens because Arch doesn't have that application installed. I suppose you could install the app, if you think it will be useful in the future.

Well it looks like my X keyboard settings are mapped to US and I need gb, but in the big scheme of things, I am happy.

I must say a big thank you at this point to the people that did the work on the Gentoo wiki and also to the people that have helped with this forum post.

Cheers,

Chris.

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#1 2011-02-04 15:02:09

[SOLVED] Xorg 'Out of Scan Range, Change Timing Signal'

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