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#1 2011-01-18 09:33:33

ying
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Thunar/Nautilus needs 30 sec to startup!

Nautilus didn't work for me for a long time. It needet over 30 sec to startup. Now on the Thunar update(supporting Network searching / More Mount Options) it does take exactly the same long time to startup. Loopback is up and dbus-launch is also running. I am using Openbox with hal and gamin on a x86_64 system. Does anybody know how to fix that problem?

Last edited by ying (2011-01-18 09:34:13)

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#2 2011-01-18 10:25:10

Awebb
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Re: Thunar/Nautilus needs 30 sec to startup!

Have you tried running them from the console and have a look at the output?

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#3 2011-01-18 10:55:37

wonder
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Re: Thunar/Nautilus needs 30 sec to startup!

do you happen to have locale different than en_US?


Give what you have. To someone, it may be better than you dare to think.

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#4 2011-01-18 11:22:05

pogeymanz
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Re: Thunar/Nautilus needs 30 sec to startup!

I have the same issue, but not as bad as you.

The new Thunar takes a long time to start, but only the first time. I'm guessing that it's searching the network, which takes some time.

Try without gvfs installed and see if it starts faster.

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#5 2011-01-18 11:58:23

ying
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Re: Thunar/Nautilus needs 30 sec to startup!

@pogeymanz: k I will try it out.
@wonder & Awebb: There is no error output and I am using the de_DE locale.

Edit: @pogeymanz you're right. gvfs is the problem. But I need gvfs. Is there a way to let it start early or any other way to speed it up?

Last edited by ying (2011-01-18 12:03:41)

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#6 2011-01-18 12:03:35

wonder
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Re: Thunar/Nautilus needs 30 sec to startup!

@ying try using en_US locale and see if it works. i'm trying to see if you guys hit in the same bug: FS#19638


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#7 2011-01-18 12:04:14

ying
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Re: Thunar/Nautilus needs 30 sec to startup!

No @wonder. See my edit. It is gvfs.

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#8 2011-01-18 18:33:39

pogeymanz
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Re: Thunar/Nautilus needs 30 sec to startup!

ying wrote:

@pogeymanz: k I will try it out.
@wonder & Awebb: There is no error output and I am using the de_DE locale.

Edit: @pogeymanz you're right. gvfs is the problem. But I need gvfs. Is there a way to let it start early or any other way to speed it up?

@wonder: I am using en_US locale.

@ying: I don't know of any way to make it faster, sorry. I've just been dealing with it. Like I said, it only happens the first time I launch it, and it's not nearly 30 seconds for me.

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#9 2011-01-19 07:04:34

ying
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Re: Thunar/Nautilus needs 30 sec to startup!

Hmm same here. It is only taking a very long time if I started my wm new. Then it is fine. But waiting the first time is annoying.

Edit: I solved it. I forgot to disable the smbnetfs daemon in rc.conf. Now Thunar is starting in 2-3 sec. That's k for me. wink Thx a lot guys.

Last edited by ying (2011-01-19 07:15:06)

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#10 2011-01-20 21:13:16

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Re: Thunar/Nautilus needs 30 sec to startup!

ying wrote:

Hmm same here. It is only taking a very long time if I started my wm new. Then it is fine. But waiting the first time is annoying.

Edit: I solved it. I forgot to disable the smbnetfs daemon in rc.conf. Now Thunar is starting in 2-3 sec. That's k for me. wink Thx a lot guys.


That seems to work for me as well.

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#11 2011-02-20 20:49:08

Larsson
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Re: Thunar/Nautilus needs 30 sec to startup!

Not to steal the thread or anything, but if I don't have smbnetfs (or samba) installed but still experience a long cold start with thunar (since the new version came out), what could be the problem?


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#12 2011-02-20 21:55:54

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Re: Thunar/Nautilus needs 30 sec to startup!

IT IS gvfs: I use xfce4 and since 4.8 it has become unusable with gvfs.

It was simply not light enough for Xfce, bad choice from them to not support a more lightweight udev approach out of the box sad


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#13 2011-02-21 01:00:15

Larsson
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Re: Thunar/Nautilus needs 30 sec to startup!

Well the solution for many others seem to have been to blacklist smbnetfs, so there seem to be a way around the problem, even though it might be gvfs fault at the base.
@Ying and @GooglesGuy, do you experience the problem with the cold start if you don't have samba installed? (or perhaps gvfs-smb).


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#14 2011-02-21 19:59:47

Ultraman
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Re: Thunar/Nautilus needs 30 sec to startup!

I "solved" my problem with Thunar by starting it daemonized when I start X.
I switched from Openbox to XFCE recently, so I simply added Thunar (/usr/bin/thunar --daemon) to my Autostart list.
Putting it in Openbox autostart.sh would probably have the same effect.

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#15 2011-08-30 08:47:58

gnomeye
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Re: Thunar/Nautilus needs 30 sec to startup!

for me it's the same thing. Cold starting thunar takes too long for me. 2nd Start is way faster. Tonight I will try removing gvfs.


EDIT:

gvfs searching the network is the problem.

there is already a bug opened

Last edited by gnomeye (2011-08-30 18:34:39)

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