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#1 2011-03-02 03:38:51

DasFox
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Any Place To Make Requests To Get Apps Into Official Arch?

Even though apps may be in AUR, is there a way to make a request to get them into Arch officially?



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#2 2011-03-02 03:41:01

Allan
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Re: Any Place To Make Requests To Get Apps Into Official Arch?

Nope.

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#3 2011-03-02 04:17:43

DasFox
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Re: Any Place To Make Requests To Get Apps Into Official Arch?

It's a shame since there are some really great apps out there being passed by...


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#4 2011-03-02 05:11:48

Inxsible
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Re: Any Place To Make Requests To Get Apps Into Official Arch?

Step 1) Start with packaging  some apps in AUR
Step 2) Apply to be a Trusted User
Step 3) If other TUs and devs find you to be a competent packager (proven by your skills in managing AUR and other pacakges), you will be approved to be a TU
Step 4) As a TU you can bring in any application you want into [community] provided you are also willing to maintain it and update it once you get it into [community]
Step 5) Profit.


OR
Step 1) Request a PKGBUILD in the appropriate forum (or better yet, create one yourself)
Step 2) Submit the application in AUR
Step 3) Wait for enough votes AND an interested TU who is willing to move it to [community]
Step 4) Profit.


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#5 2011-03-02 12:53:27

falconindy
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Re: Any Place To Make Requests To Get Apps Into Official Arch?

Inxsible wrote:

Step 5) Profit.

There's very little profit to be had. I'm fairly sure it's Allan who put a stop payment on my last several TU paychecks. Once I prove it, I'll be on a plane to New Zealand, but the irony is that I can't afford the ticket because I haven't gotten paid.

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#6 2011-03-02 13:04:36

Allan
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Re: Any Place To Make Requests To Get Apps Into Official Arch?

falconindy wrote:

Once I prove it, I'll be on a plane to New Zealand

And you will still be 3-4 hours flight away from where I live! tongue

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#7 2011-03-02 13:13:55

karol
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Re: Any Place To Make Requests To Get Apps Into Official Arch?

Allan wrote:
falconindy wrote:

Once I prove it, I'll be on a plane to New Zealand

And you will still be 3-4 hours flight away from where I live! tongue

IIRC Jason Wryan is from AU but works & lives in NZ and Allan does it the other way round :-)

falconindy wrote:

the irony is that I can't afford the ticket because I haven't gotten paid.

Thankfully you can pick the low-fare Kiwi Airlines. Oh wait who would name an airline after a flightless bird?

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#8 2011-03-02 13:45:28

drcouzelis
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Re: Any Place To Make Requests To Get Apps Into Official Arch?

DasFox wrote:

It's a shame since there are some really great apps out there being passed by.

They're not being passed by, they're in the AUR.

Besides the difference between installing an official package (just install the package) and an AUR package (type "makepkg", then install the package), do you find there's a difference between the two?

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#9 2011-03-02 16:40:36

ngoonee
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Re: Any Place To Make Requests To Get Apps Into Official Arch?

karol wrote:
falconindy wrote:

the irony is that I can't afford the ticket because I haven't gotten paid.

Thankfully you can pick the low-fare Kiwi Airlines. Oh wait who would name an airline after a flightless bird?

Airasia for the win! No US flights though. They do do NZ and AU at least, also some Europe destinations (just started Paris I believe). Prices are rock-bottom low especially if you find a promotion.

@drcouzelis - there IS a difference, even with the benefits offered by helpers like bauerbill/yaourt/clyde. The amount of bug-fixing required is quite a bit more, and the amount of time taken with non-trivial packages (mainly compiling) isn't very little either. Most importantly, AUR packages don't have quite the implicit guarantee of quality that repo packages have (I'll turn a blind eye to Allan's recent bash fiasco smile ).


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#10 2011-03-02 17:18:15

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Re: Any Place To Make Requests To Get Apps Into Official Arch?

I was of the impression this is why there is voting in the AUR.

Off topic:  From a person living in earthquake country, I sure hope all is well with Archers in New Zealand


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#11 2011-03-02 18:42:09

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Re: Any Place To Make Requests To Get Apps Into Official Arch?

ewaller wrote:

I was of the impression this is why there is voting in the AUR.

Yes but the voting system doesn't really work since there are AUR wrappers that let you automatically vote for every package that you install..


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#12 2011-03-02 18:59:05

ewaller
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Re: Any Place To Make Requests To Get Apps Into Official Arch?

litemotiv wrote:

... there are AUR wrappers that let you automatically vote for every package that you install..

Ouch.  I did not even suspect that.


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#13 2011-03-02 22:38:28

jdarnold
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Re: Any Place To Make Requests To Get Apps Into Official Arch?

But there are times when packages can be nominated for inclusion in [community]. The most recent one was just last December:

http://rollingrelease.com/software/2010 … ay-madness

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#14 2011-03-03 15:23:02

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Re: Any Place To Make Requests To Get Apps Into Official Arch?

litemotiv wrote:

Yes but the voting system doesn't really work since there are AUR wrappers that let you automatically vote for every package that you install..

Do those wrappers also "unvote" the package if you un-install it?

If not, that would mean a lot of spurious votes for someone who just tried out a particular app.


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#15 2011-03-03 17:14:44

ngoonee
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Re: Any Place To Make Requests To Get Apps Into Official Arch?

Inxsible wrote:
litemotiv wrote:

Yes but the voting system doesn't really work since there are AUR wrappers that let you automatically vote for every package that you install..

Do those wrappers also "unvote" the package if you un-install it?

If not, that would mean a lot of spurious votes for someone who just tried out a particular app.

The one I use (bauerbill) does not do this.


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