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#1 2011-04-11 19:29:02

Vamp898
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GNOME3 beside KDE4

Does anyone else experienced that KDE4 takes endless to start until the GNOME-Terminal pops up? Does anyone know why? Autostart is clean and everything and i really have no clue why the GNOME-Terminal pops and slows down the starting process

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#2 2011-04-11 19:59:03

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Re: GNOME3 beside KDE4

also kded4 is running amok in GNOME-Shell Session and causes 100% CPU Load on one core.

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#3 2011-04-11 20:21:39

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Re: GNOME3 beside KDE4

so what is your question?

If you want to solve issues that you are having, then start threads here, if you want to discuss something, open threads in the GNU/Linux discussion sub-forum and if you want to rant, get a blog.

Its not that hard !


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#4 2011-04-11 20:39:01

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Re: GNOME3 beside KDE4

First Line:

Does anyone else experienced that KDE4 takes endless to start until the GNOME-Terminal pops up?

As soon the i run pacman -S gnome (installing the stuff from testing), KDE takes longer to load and waits for an GNOME-Terminal to appear.

Why? There is no such entry in the autorun and in the GNOME Session, the Terminal dont pop up, why in KDE?

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#5 2011-04-11 20:42:40

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Re: GNOME3 beside KDE4

error logs, dmesg?


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#6 2011-04-11 20:44:05

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Re: GNOME3 beside KDE4

Inxsible wrote:

error logs, dmesg?

The only thing that is GNOME related

gnome-settings-[2046]: segfault at 7ffaafdbe210 ip 00007ffaafdbe210 sp 00007fffd3128ed8 error 14

in dmesg other log-files like .xsesion-error dont show anything related

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#7 2011-04-12 00:52:16

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Re: GNOME3 beside KDE4

Vamp898 wrote:
Inxsible wrote:

error logs, dmesg?

The only thing that is GNOME related

gnome-settings-[2046]: segfault at 7ffaafdbe210 ip 00007ffaafdbe210 sp 00007fffd3128ed8 error 14

in dmesg other log-files like .xsesion-error dont show anything related

Check this:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ntrack/+bug/755608
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=268038

The patch I posted at the launchpad on ntrack may solve your problem. You can use gdb and attach to kded4 and run backtrace to check whether it is stucked on ntrack or not.

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#8 2011-04-12 05:45:01

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Re: GNOME3 beside KDE4

Vamp898 wrote:

Does anyone else experienced that KDE4 takes endless to start until the GNOME-Terminal pops up? Does anyone know why? Autostart is clean and everything and i really have no clue why the GNOME-Terminal pops and slows down the starting process

I'm having this issue too. After some investigation, it turns out that gnome-terminal is invokde to start orca, a screen reader and magnifier from group gnome-extra.

The rude solution is delete /etc/xdg/autostart/orca-autostart.desktop, or just delete that package if you do not need it.

The better way is to tweak orca.autostart.desktop to tell KDE to ignore it,  using something like `X-KDE-autostart-condition=...` but I failed miserably.

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#9 2011-04-12 06:07:06

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Re: GNOME3 beside KDE4

This thread finally ended up morphing into dealing with issues with work arounds;  Moved to testing


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#10 2011-04-12 12:26:20

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Re: GNOME3 beside KDE4

adaptee wrote:
Vamp898 wrote:

Does anyone else experienced that KDE4 takes endless to start until the GNOME-Terminal pops up? Does anyone know why? Autostart is clean and everything and i really have no clue why the GNOME-Terminal pops and slows down the starting process

I'm having this issue too. After some investigation, it turns out that gnome-terminal is invokde to start orca, a screen reader and magnifier from group gnome-extra.

The rude solution is delete /etc/xdg/autostart/orca-autostart.desktop, or just delete that package if you do not need it.

The better way is to tweak orca.autostart.desktop to tell KDE to ignore it,  using something like `X-KDE-autostart-condition=...` but I failed miserably.

Hmmm i dont need orca at all. Going to try if that already solves the situation

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#11 2011-04-18 05:03:45

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Re: GNOME3 beside KDE4

I have this issue also. But i find this: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=680330
I will try it and see if it's working.


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#12 2011-04-23 13:52:04

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Re: GNOME3 beside KDE4

gabriel9 wrote:

I have this issue also. But i find this: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=680330
I will try it and see if it's working.

Workaround described in the second comment worked for me.

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@ https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/23890

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