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#26 2005-06-18 17:46:51

nuopus
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Re: Archlinux ciris? Let's discus!

dibblethewrecker wrote:

i think phrak is refering more to the bzflag issue than the desktop file issue, with regard to reporting a bug!

Well ... there is nothing wrong with bzflag2 itself. Just pointing out that it is a good example of lazy package maintainers because this one will generate the desktop files for you if you just run one script ... but they can't even do that.

For some other ones I kind of understand because they have to create 1 file with 4 or more lines ... OMG! But bzflag is just running one script.

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#27 2005-06-18 18:18:04

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Re: Archlinux ciris? Let's discus!

sorry i was under the mistaken impression we were specifically talking about .desktop files in gnome pkgs.  i think my comment about the gnome pkg'ers still stands tho big_smile  thanks for clarifying iph

neopus - you should still report a bug for that then!

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#28 2005-06-18 18:21:51

nuopus
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Re: Archlinux ciris? Let's discus!

dibblethewrecker wrote:

sorry i was under the mistaken impression we were specifically talking about .desktop files in gnome pkgs.  i think my comment about the gnome pkg'ers still stands tho big_smile  thanks for clarifying iph

neopus - you should still report a bug for that then!

Okay! :-) And just for the record ... I have left Arch for a while to go to Fedora Core and am not running back to Arch. Such a great distro!

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#29 2005-06-18 18:28:32

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Re: Archlinux ciris? Let's discus!

so you're trolling then?

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#30 2005-06-18 18:34:16

nuopus
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Re: Archlinux ciris? Let's discus!

phrakture wrote:

so you're trolling then?

No ... ive been with arch for a long time. My leave was only for like 1 month I think. I just came back to it then I noticed someone posted a complaint that I had about arch from before I left.

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#31 2005-06-18 18:37:51

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Re: Archlinux ciris? Let's discus!

the thing I don't get is that
a) this is just a desktop file thing... now I don't use any menu driven WM, so I wouldn't understand really, but aren't the desktop files just some little 10 line text files? why not write one and email it to the maintainer?

for the record, you mentioned gxine didn't have a desktop entry - gxine is in the community repo, and not an official package.

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#32 2005-06-18 19:03:35

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Re: Archlinux ciris? Let's discus!

mmm - seems too small an issue to me to get your pants in that much of a twist!

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#33 2005-06-18 21:52:29

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You have a point... The .desktop thing is not a big problem.

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#34 2005-06-18 22:34:56

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Re: Archlinux ciris? Let's discus!

nuopus wrote:

I have left Arch for a while to go to Fedora Core and am not running back to Arch. Such a great distro!

Typo? If you meant "now" instead of "not" then that would explain the confusion. ;-)

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#35 2005-06-18 22:48:58

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Re: Archlinux ciris? Let's discus!

hehehe,
yeah i thought he meant that also but i was too lazy to post it,
maybe he shows up again and clear the fog...


arch + gentoo + initng + python = enlisy

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#36 2005-06-19 05:00:23

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Re: Archlinux ciris? Let's discus!

In the time it took you to package up bzflag2, submit it, and then not understand why they are mad that you didn't follow the procedures right and post here about it, I could create over a hundred icons on my KDE menu, 80 by hand using macros.

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#37 2005-06-19 05:38:55

nuopus
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Re: Archlinux ciris? Let's discus!

i3839 wrote:
nuopus wrote:

I have left Arch for a while to go to Fedora Core and am not running back to Arch. Such a great distro!

Typo? If you meant "now" instead of "not" then that would explain the confusion. ;-)

Wooo I meant now. lol I am in fact back to Arch on the laptop.

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#38 2005-06-19 05:43:35

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Re: Archlinux ciris? Let's discus!

deficite wrote:

In the time it took you to package up bzflag2, submit it, and then not understand why they are mad that you didn't follow the procedures right and post here about it, I could create over a hundred icons on my KDE menu, 80 by hand using macros.

I was just saying that COMPARED TO OTHER DISTROS .... the maintainers of Arch packages are too quick to make packages and not care about the proper entries.

Yes I could just post in bug tracker, but the situation is that it happens way too much to post a bug for every instance and HOPE they will add it for other users at a later time. I would much rather take the time to go against the policies and create packages the right way in my own repository because the problem is so wide spread. BTW, repository information is coming soon for people interrested in quality menu enabled packages.

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#39 2005-06-19 06:02:17

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Re: Archlinux ciris? Let's discus!

wow. nothing like bagging on the distro, then advertising your own.


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#40 2005-06-19 06:02:27

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Re: Archlinux ciris? Let's discus!

the title says "ciris", it should probably say crisis.


And where were all the sportsmen who always pulled you though?
They're all resting down in Cornwall
writing up their memoirs for a paper-back edition
of the Boy Scout Manual.

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#41 2005-06-19 11:03:20

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Re: Archlinux ciris? Let's discus!

cactus wrote:

wow. nothing like bagging on the distro, then advertising your own.

I thought I cleared that typo+following confusion up, but apparently not...

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#42 2005-06-19 15:58:24

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Re: Archlinux ciris? Let's discus!

Oops, I forgot I stopped bothering to read this thread.

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#43 2005-06-19 16:01:22

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Re: Archlinux ciris? Let's discus!

Dusty wrote:

Oops, I forgot I stopped bothering to read this thread.

haha, me too

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#44 2005-06-19 16:21:16

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Re: Archlinux ciris? Let's discus!

Oh, but Dusty we're in a cisis! You can't ignore a cisis! You might have to edit a XML file! Oh my word!

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#45 2005-06-19 16:27:59

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Re: Archlinux ciris? Let's discus!

I haven't commented at all on this topic, but don't really feel like we are in a circus.  wink


oz

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#46 2005-06-19 16:51:58

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Re: Archlinux ciris? Let's discus!

cirus clouds are the wispy ones

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#47 2005-06-19 17:01:34

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Re: Archlinux ciris? Let's discus!

phrakture wrote:

cirus clouds are the wispy ones

you read my mind!!....except its spelled cirrus!

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#48 2005-06-19 17:56:15

nuopus
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Re: Archlinux ciris? Let's discus!

Penguin wrote:
phrakture wrote:

cirus clouds are the wispy ones

you read my mind!!....except its spelled cirrus!

You guys are all retarded! LOL

j/k

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#49 2005-06-19 17:57:57

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Re: Archlinux ciris? Let's discus!

nuopus wrote:

You guys are all retarded! LOL

j/k

sorry, thats what happens when you get bored wink

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#50 2005-06-19 18:18:33

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Re: Archlinux ciris? Let's discus!

i'm board, hah

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