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StrongDrink

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[Kinda Solved] Hotmail not working :S

Hello all, as the title says.. hotmail is not working... I tried it in several browsers. it loads. but nothing is in the right place and the buttons dont work. is this a javascript issue? hotmail works on the other computer. but not on arch :S

thanks in advance

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Inxsible

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Re: [Kinda Solved] Hotmail not working :S

is this a javascript issue?

Could be. Are you using any add-ons on your browsers? Or it could also be that hotmail does not accept the browser id that linux browsers send. In that case you might have to trick them into believing that you are on a Windows machine.

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Durden

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Re: [Kinda Solved] Hotmail not working :S

Hello all, as the title says.. hotmail is not working... I tried it in several browsers. it loads. but nothing is in the right place and the buttons dont work. is this a javascript issue? hotmail works on the other computer. but not on arch :S

thanks in advance

What browsers did you try exactly? I don't use hotmail and I'm not on my arch partition at the moment but I could swear it worked for me the other day when I checked an old account I never use anymore.

Its a javascript heavy interface and will require a newer browser. Make sure you're up to date on everything.

StrongDrink

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Re: [Kinda Solved] Hotmail not working :S

I used.. firefox 4.0.1, opera 11.11 and konqueror 4.6.3
It worked when i used ubuntu but i would rather not install that again :S

litemotiv

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Re: [Kinda Solved] Hotmail not working :S

If it is a Javascript error, it should show up in Firefox's error console. Enable that from the main menu, reload the page and check the console's Javascript tab.

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Re: [Kinda Solved] Hotmail not working :S

Error: jQuery is not defined
Source File: http://by152w.bay152.mail.live.com/defa … wsignin1.0
Line: 282

Error: event.srcElement is undefined
Source File: http://by152w.bay152.mail.live.com/defa … wsignin1.0
Line: 1

what do these mean?

litemotiv

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Re: [Kinda Solved] Hotmail not working :S

Can anyone confirm that Hotmail uses JQuery? I wouldn't have guessed...

If it does though, there could be only a few possible causes. The most likely one would be that you are running some sort of proxy (firewall, caching etc) that filters certain scripts. Would that be possible?

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StrongDrink

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Re: [Kinda Solved] Hotmail not working :S

No, I don't think so.. this is a fresh arch build and on the same computer using ubuntu it worked fine

StrongDrink

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Re: [Kinda Solved] Hotmail not working :S

UPDATE: tried hotmail with chromium as well.. no luck :S

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Re: [Kinda Solved] Hotmail not working :S

its working for me on chromium, i just tested it. 

a shot in the dark - i wonder if it uses java "jre" too, and you have a bad java install. 

did you do any configuration on your javascript settings anywhere that might be global?   

make sure its not a https problem where your ISP or connection is accepting connection from secure sites as well.

is there a dns resolver cache that you can flush? that might help.

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Durden

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Re: [Kinda Solved] Hotmail not working :S

Can you post a screenshot of what it looks like?

SiegeMachine

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Re: [Kinda Solved] Hotmail not working :S

I get that problem too with firefox occasionally on a certain art website I go on but it only does that when the internet is really laggy and if I refresh a couple times it ends up fine again usually.

StrongDrink

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Re: [Kinda Solved] Hotmail not working :S

Here is a snapshot

Main page...
http://elijah.mirecki.com/images/hotmail-snap1.png

Inbox...
http://elijah.mirecki.com/images/hotmail-snap2.png

:S

Also none of the buttons work.

StrongDrink

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Re: [Kinda Solved] Hotmail not working :S

@ wolfdogg
no i didnt do any java configuring

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Re: [Kinda Solved] Hotmail not working :S

Here is a snapshot

Main page...
http://elijah.mirecki.com/images/hotmail-snap1.png

Inbox...
http://elijah.mirecki.com/images/hotmail-snap2.png

:S

Also none of the buttons work.

I don't use hotmail, but my ISP's website gets messed up badly like your screenshots when I have privoxy enabled (what litemotiv said above). I can't even use most of the links on the site until I disable it.

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Re: [Kinda Solved] Hotmail not working :S

Looks like your connection is lagging out connecting to microsoft's servers. Works fine here.

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StrongDrink

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Re: [Kinda Solved] Hotmail not working :S

but it worked on ubuntu. it doesn't make sense O_O I tried openJDK and JRE

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Re: [Kinda Solved] Hotmail not working :S

but it worked on ubuntu. it doesn't make sense O_O I tried openJDK and JRE

It seems that you are not even reading the posts. litemotiv and skottish both indicated that using privoxy or any proxy servers might be causing issues, but instead of replying you keep rambling about how it worked in Ubuntu.

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Re: [Kinda Solved] Hotmail not working :S

but it worked on ubuntu. it doesn't make sense O_O I tried openJDK and JRE

Hotmail will certainly not use Java, so albeit good intentioned by wolfdogg that road wasn't worth investigating.

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Re: [Kinda Solved] Hotmail not working :S

No i dont have privoxy or a proxy running. but I tried connecting with tor (proxy) and everything is fine. except its a bit slow.. temporary fix..

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Re: [Kinda Solved] Hotmail not working :S

Any chance your ISP is "Helping" you by modifying the HTML on-the-fly to provide "An Enhanced User Experience" (i.e. inserting or replacing legitimate ads with their own -- badly) ??

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Durden

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Re: [Kinda Solved] Hotmail not working :S

The screenshots looked like it was putting you into a fallback, low bandwidth mode. I just logged into mine and it worked fine. I couldn't find an option to change to a low bandwidth mode, so not sure they even have one.

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Re: [Kinda Solved] Hotmail not working :S

it appears you have might a stylesheet that isnt loading. sometimes the style sheets have been updated at the websites end but the browser loads the old one through either a proxy cache, local cache, or dns resolver cache.

try this to flush your dns # /etc/rc.d/nscd restart
and if you have dnsmasq running # /etc/init.d/dnsmasq restart
or another dns service, restart it.

but what works for me alot of times is when stylesheets load wrong press ctrl+u when on the page, or click 'view' 'source code', then open each css link in a new tab (middle click, or right click new tab), then ctrl-f5 to refresh those pages to force reload them. (the css links are found in the <head> section near the top of the page, and end in .css)

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Durden

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Re: [Kinda Solved] Hotmail not working :S

Create a new user on your machine and test it out there. If it happens in a brand spanking new user with no config then you have a system wide issue and that gives us somewhere to look.

StrongDrink

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Re: [Kinda Solved] Hotmail not working :S

yeah it did this on my brothers' emails' as well