You are not logged in.

#1 2003-11-19 02:29:59

Xentac
Forum Fellow
From: Victoria, BC
Registered: 2003-01-17
Posts: 1,797
Website

Trusted User Repositories

And now, for the moment you've all been waiting for!  Trusted User Repositories (TURs)!

Some Trusted Users (TUs) have been asked to run their own repositories at one central location that anyone can access.  This will definitely clean up incoming (because we'll be taking those user's packages out!).

Each of these TUs has said they were interested in having their packages in their own repository and keeping them up to date.  That way you don't have to worry about packages being out of date, like they could be when you pull them out of incoming.

I'm going to state the warning right now.  While these are trusted users, what they do with their packages is their own business.  If one of the TU's packages breaks your system, leaves your doors unlocked, or runs away with your girlfriend (or boyfriend) it's not any of the Archlinux maintainers' faults.  Talk to the TU  wink

Another use for these repos is to let other, not so trusted (yes, this means you  tongue), users submit their packages to a TU to have it looked over and possibly included in the user's repo.  Incoming will still exist, but it makes it easier on the maintainers this way.

The address for TUR is http://tur.berlios.de.  Weren't the people at Berlios nice?  Give them a round of applause, without them this would be much more difficult.


I have discovered that all of mans unhappiness derives from only one source, not being able to sit quietly in a room
- Blaise Pascal

Offline

#2 2003-11-19 03:51:22

contrasutra
Member
From: New Jersey
Registered: 2003-07-26
Posts: 507

Re: Trusted User Repositories

No front page announcement? wink


"Contrary to popular belief, penguins are not the salvation of modern technology.  Neither do they throw parties for the urban proletariat."

Offline

#3 2003-11-19 04:37:15

vande198
Member
From: East Lansing, MI, USA
Registered: 2003-09-12
Posts: 98

Re: Trusted User Repositories

Good Idea....Probably does deserve a front page announcement.


"To be a Spartan is to be a philosopher much more than to be an athlete."
Plato, the <i>Protagoras</i>, 342e-343a

Offline

#4 2003-11-19 05:19:28

Xentac
Forum Fellow
From: Victoria, BC
Registered: 2003-01-17
Posts: 1,797
Website

Re: Trusted User Repositories

Geez, you guys really are demanding...

"Give us some place to put packages!", "Make sure the packages are up to date!", "Fix the packages!", "Post this on the front page!"... It's like I owe you something!

Really makes it sound appealing to be me, eh? tongue


I have discovered that all of mans unhappiness derives from only one source, not being able to sit quietly in a room
- Blaise Pascal

Offline

#5 2003-11-19 05:52:55

jf/
Member
Registered: 2003-10-26
Posts: 79

Re: Trusted User Repositories

Xentac wrote:

Geez, you guys really are demanding...

"Give us some place to put packages!", "Make sure the packages are up to date!", "Fix the packages!", "Post this on the front page!"... It's like I owe you something!

Really makes it sound appealing to be me, eh? tongue

well, for what it's worth - i think some people do probably appreciate it...

Offline

#6 2003-11-19 12:04:03

contrasutra
Member
From: New Jersey
Registered: 2003-07-26
Posts: 507

Re: Trusted User Repositories

Xentac wrote:

Geez, you guys really are demanding...

"Give us some place to put packages!", "Make sure the packages are up to date!", "Fix the packages!", "Post this on the front page!"

Well, it is your job. tongue


"Contrary to popular belief, penguins are not the salvation of modern technology.  Neither do they throw parties for the urban proletariat."

Offline

#7 2003-11-19 14:39:21

dariball
Member
From: Germany - Frankfurt
Registered: 2002-10-20
Posts: 118
Website

Re: Trusted User Repositories

Well, it is your job.

sounds like the maintainers earn a lot of money with it big_smile


nothing,
maybe I have a perfect signature _someday_

Offline

#8 2003-11-19 16:54:35

Xentac
Forum Fellow
From: Victoria, BC
Registered: 2003-01-17
Posts: 1,797
Website

Re: Trusted User Repositories

I like to think that the TURs are the official archlinux unofficial user repos.  By this I mean that it becomes a central location for TUs to put up there packages, instead of having to host them just anywhere.  It does add a legitimacy, as opposed to just downloading packages off of some guy's site.

But I also won't take crap for things the TUs do  wink.  Although I suppose I have to take crap for what the software does... awwww...


I have discovered that all of mans unhappiness derives from only one source, not being able to sit quietly in a room
- Blaise Pascal

Offline

#9 2003-11-19 18:50:33

dp
Member
From: Zürich, Switzerland
Registered: 2003-05-27
Posts: 3,363
Website

Re: Trusted User Repositories

ok, my TUR is filling with packages; slowly, becasue i only have 128kbps upstream, but working

rasmol and sitecopy already in, but with my third package i had a small problem, so here the

first bug for TURs
----------------------
1) i was uploading maxima, the pkg-file is about 5MB big
2) after uploading, i got this:

Problems uploading files
Debugging information:
Array
(
    [pkgbuildfile] => Array
        (
            [name] => PKGBUILD
            [type] => text/plain
            [tmp_name] => /tmp/phpp2aO3u
            [error] => 0
            [size] => 452
        )

    [packagefile] => Array
        (
            [name] => maxima-5.9.0-1.pkg.tar.gz
            [type] => 
            [tmp_name] => 
            [error] => 2
            [size] => 0
        )

)

... and the package is not in my TUR

as it sayed "[size] => 0" for the pkg-file, i think there is some error becasue of the size of the file

... and what i have to say: great job making TURs in so short time to work (elementary) - big compliments


The impossible missions are the only ones which succeed.

Offline

#10 2003-11-19 18:50:51

jlvsimoes
Member
From: portugal
Registered: 2002-12-23
Posts: 392
Website

Re: Trusted User Repositories

hum ... wath if i dont trust you guys them wath ?
tongue


-----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-----
Version: 3.1
GU/ d- s: a- C L U P+ L+++ E--- W+
N 0+ K- W-- !O !M V-- PS+ PE- V++ PGP T 5 Z+ R* TV+ B+
DI-- D- G-- e-- h! r++ z+ z*
------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------

Offline

#11 2003-11-19 19:02:48

nifan
Member
Registered: 2003-04-10
Posts: 102

Re: Trusted User Repositories

its good to have this, but how do i get the PKGBUILDS?


______
"Ignorance, the root and the stem of every evil." - Plato

Offline

#12 2003-11-19 20:44:36

contrasutra
Member
From: New Jersey
Registered: 2003-07-26
Posts: 507

Re: Trusted User Repositories

I was joking about the "its your job" comment. I really do appreciate all the work you do for free. I only wish I could handle the "hassles" of people like you do.

Good Job Apeiro, Xentac, Sarah, and every other person who spends their time doing this project.


"Contrary to popular belief, penguins are not the salvation of modern technology.  Neither do they throw parties for the urban proletariat."

Offline

#13 2003-11-19 20:54:04

Xentac
Forum Fellow
From: Victoria, BC
Registered: 2003-01-17
Posts: 1,797
Website

Re: Trusted User Repositories

dp, you might as well just email me with problems like that... though I was under the impression that berlios' php.ini was set up to have a maximum of 20meg... I guess I'll have to look up that error number (usually when it was over the upload max it would return error 1).

nifan, PKGBUILDs are the only things being uploaded right now.  If a package needs patch files and things like that then the TUs don't upload those currently.  To see the PKGBUILDs though you can go to http://tur.berlios.de/pkgbuild.  Once I implement things like patch files then I'll make a web interface where you can actually see those files.


I have discovered that all of mans unhappiness derives from only one source, not being able to sit quietly in a room
- Blaise Pascal

Offline

#14 2003-11-19 21:24:42

nifan
Member
Registered: 2003-04-10
Posts: 102

Re: Trusted User Repositories

well i've used the tur with pacman and it installed binaries packages, but since PKGBUILDS are availble im happy tongue


______
"Ignorance, the root and the stem of every evil." - Plato

Offline

#15 2003-11-19 21:27:47

Xentac
Forum Fellow
From: Victoria, BC
Registered: 2003-01-17
Posts: 1,797
Website

Re: Trusted User Repositories

jlvsimoes, then you don't add their repo  wink

dp, that bug should be fixed now, I figured out what error 2 is.


I have discovered that all of mans unhappiness derives from only one source, not being able to sit quietly in a room
- Blaise Pascal

Offline

#16 2003-11-19 21:34:30

dp
Member
From: Zürich, Switzerland
Registered: 2003-05-27
Posts: 3,363
Website

Re: Trusted User Repositories

Xentac wrote:

jlvsimoes, then you don't add their repo  wink

dp, that bug should be fixed now, I figured out what error 2 is.

great, thanx ... trying right now uploading maxima ...

EDIT: worked, thanx for solving this little bit of trouble :-)


The impossible missions are the only ones which succeed.

Offline

#17 2003-11-20 13:10:43

linfocito
Member
From: Gurupi - TO, Brasil
Registered: 2003-05-18
Posts: 82

Re: Trusted User Repositories

Maybe a stupid question, but:

How do someone become a Trusted User?


"...archoholism is a hard disease to cure..."
Archlinux Brasil

Offline

#18 2003-11-20 14:58:21

Xentac
Forum Fellow
From: Victoria, BC
Registered: 2003-01-17
Posts: 1,797
Website

Re: Trusted User Repositories

Currently, I have to think that the quality (and quantity) of the packages you contribute are good.  Then I'll contact you.

Maybe we'll figure something out where the other TUs vote, or you have to be sponsored or something...


I have discovered that all of mans unhappiness derives from only one source, not being able to sit quietly in a room
- Blaise Pascal

Offline

#19 2003-11-22 16:33:04

rasat
Forum Fellow
From: Finland, working in Romania
Registered: 2002-12-27
Posts: 2,176
Website

Re: Trusted User Repositories

<b>This is great..... well done.</b>
I pasted contrasutra's repo in /etc/pacman.conf and upgraded Opera. It went smoothly.

For my information as the author of hwd, when I upgrade it to 1.6.1 (currently hwd-1.5.2), how do I proceed... upload in incoming or inform contrasutra (its in his repo)?

Offline

#20 2003-11-22 16:48:44

contrasutra
Member
From: New Jersey
Registered: 2003-07-26
Posts: 507

Re: Trusted User Repositories

Well, I think uploading it to incoming, and then making a forum post or sending me an email would be best.

That way others can still use your package until I update it in my repo.


"Contrary to popular belief, penguins are not the salvation of modern technology.  Neither do they throw parties for the urban proletariat."

Offline

#21 2003-11-22 17:12:47

Xentac
Forum Fellow
From: Victoria, BC
Registered: 2003-01-17
Posts: 1,797
Website

Re: Trusted User Repositories

One of the goals of the TURs is to get stuff out of incoming.  I think posting here and contacting contrasutra would be best.


I have discovered that all of mans unhappiness derives from only one source, not being able to sit quietly in a room
- Blaise Pascal

Offline

#22 2003-11-22 17:20:43

Xentac
Forum Fellow
From: Victoria, BC
Registered: 2003-01-17
Posts: 1,797
Website

Re: Trusted User Repositories

Just so that everyone knows.  I've figured out how I'm going to handle patch files and stuff.  I just have to implement it.  I'm not going to get time (or inclination) to do it till next weekend.  So there's something you can hope for next weekend.


I have discovered that all of mans unhappiness derives from only one source, not being able to sit quietly in a room
- Blaise Pascal

Offline

#23 2003-11-22 18:18:35

contrasutra
Member
From: New Jersey
Registered: 2003-07-26
Posts: 507

Re: Trusted User Repositories

Have you figured out a way to get the user email address in the TUR page yet?

Because if you want people to contact the TU's, then make it easy. wink


No rush though.  tongue


"Contrary to popular belief, penguins are not the salvation of modern technology.  Neither do they throw parties for the urban proletariat."

Offline

#24 2003-11-22 18:30:40

Xentac
Forum Fellow
From: Victoria, BC
Registered: 2003-01-17
Posts: 1,797
Website

Re: Trusted User Repositories

From the sounds of it people don't want to contact the TUs.  Instead they just want to complain about them.

One thing I want to mention now to the TUs.  If you're going to add someone else's package to your repo, contact them and tell them first.  People get pissed off when you take their stuff.


I have discovered that all of mans unhappiness derives from only one source, not being able to sit quietly in a room
- Blaise Pascal

Offline

#25 2003-11-22 22:11:36

contrasutra
Member
From: New Jersey
Registered: 2003-07-26
Posts: 507

Re: Trusted User Repositories

It should be mentioned though, that from now on if you upload a package to /incoming, expect it to be added to the offial repos and the TU repos.

I mean, its stupid to say: "I uploaded this package so you could use it, and now you are. Im outraged!"


"Contrary to popular belief, penguins are not the salvation of modern technology.  Neither do they throw parties for the urban proletariat."

Offline

Board footer

Powered by FluxBB