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#1 2011-09-27 18:53:49

gopichand
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New Patent law vs Copyleft licence

Hello, I hope I am posting on a relevant thread.

The new reformed patent law that was passed recently awards the patents to the person who filed first.
If I innovated something but released it under copyleft i.e. I opened by designs and developments for everyone. I did not file patents may be to liberate/free my design and development.
If someone copies my design, made very minor or no changes at all but released a new product and filed for patent. After obtaining the patent what if he asks me to stop producing my product, how are we supposed to face this situation?

EDIT:
Here is an URL: http://www.businessinsider.com/new-pate … ses-2011-9

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#2 2011-09-27 18:58:29

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Re: New Patent law vs Copyleft licence

links?


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#3 2011-09-27 19:02:05

karol
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Re: New Patent law vs Copyleft licence

IANAL, but US now does what every other country did for a long time.

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#4 2011-09-27 19:10:27

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Re: New Patent law vs Copyleft licence

karol, you are right. But I did not find a way to understand this concept.
Well the URL says its a blow to Small Businesses and Individuals. The problem is it does not make it hard it kinda eliminates few sections of innovators. The reason I am asking is, I am a PhD student and I want to release my code and concepts to everyone. If I use GPL can I still preserve the liberty of my Inventions?


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#5 2011-09-27 19:42:50

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Re: New Patent law vs Copyleft licence

Yes, it may be hard for individuals and small companies / organizations to deal with the patent stuff.
Have you read e.g. http://www.advogato.org/article/89.html ? Yes, I know it's over a decade old, but may be a valid way of protecting your ideas while still giving them away.

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#6 2011-09-27 20:37:42

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Re: New Patent law vs Copyleft licence

This is an older article, but it is helpful when thinking about the relationship between software patents and free software licenses.

http://www.gnu.org/licenses/rms-why-gplv3.html


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#7 2011-09-27 20:44:36

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Re: New Patent law vs Copyleft licence

http://www.advogato.org/article/89.html#11 (a comment from the link I posted in my previous post): Bruce Parens on Raph Levien's patent grants.


While not related to patents, I think that some info on GPL and earning money fits here nicely:
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling-exceptions.html

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#8 2011-10-05 13:23:52

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Re: New Patent law vs Copyleft licence

Think about it this way, Linus has a patent on Linux. He had to do this, despite not wanting to, so that people like Microsoft couldn't take it, patent it, and then make a big mess of it all. Yet it is also GPL'ed.

So taking that as an example, you should be able to conclude that patents != license.


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#9 2011-10-05 13:45:08

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Re: New Patent law vs Copyleft licence

mythus wrote:

Think about it this way, Linus has a patent on Linux. He had to do this, despite not wanting to, so that people like Microsoft couldn't take it, patent it, and then make a big mess of it all. Yet it is also GPL'ed.

So taking that as an example, you should be able to conclude that patents != license.

Patent? Any links?

The registered trademark Linux® is used pursuant to a sublicense from LMI, the exclusive licensee of Linus Torvalds, owner of the mark on a world-wide basis.

Trademark != patent.

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#10 2011-10-05 14:03:12

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Re: New Patent law vs Copyleft licence

It's crazy that there should be any ambiguity for those who wish to freely share their creations.  Ultimately, Intellectual Property protection is supposed to be about benefiting society at large.


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#11 2011-10-08 14:32:22

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Re: New Patent law vs Copyleft licence

You are right Karol, I got my information wrong. I'll go hide in the corner now.


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