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#1 2010-08-09 01:01:58

Pajaro
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IDE HD killed my system

I have a SATA2 drive. I added an IDE drive. Now I can't boot unless i disable fsck in rc.sysinit, even if I unplug the IDE drive. The system keeps trying to do an fsck as if / was an ext2 partition.

I get the message:

The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2 filesystem...

and it prompts me for password, that i can't type, cause I only have USB keyboard, and it does not work at this stage.

Any ideas?

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#2 2010-08-09 01:07:36

karol
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Re: IDE HD killed my system

Maybe you need to add an ide hook in /etc/mkinitcpio.conf?

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#3 2010-08-09 01:08:57

Pajaro
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Re: IDE HD killed my system

i have drive set up by uuid in grub and fstab

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#4 2010-08-09 01:11:58

Pajaro
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Re: IDE HD killed my system

i don't boot from the ide drive, why would i need to add it to the init image? Grub is installed on my sata drive, and i boot from the sata drive, kernel loads, rc.sysinit loads, udev loads. I think the problem has to be somewhere else.

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#5 2010-08-09 01:20:54

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Re: IDE HD killed my system

Two suggestions...change the IDE cable/pri/slave and examine the bios for any clue to the sata/ide interference.


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#6 2010-08-09 14:31:13

Pajaro
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Re: IDE HD killed my system

Even if i unplug my IDE drive, the problem persists. The only workarounds I found are to disable boot up filesystem check in fstab, or to hack rc.sysinit, so i am going to open a bug report.

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#7 2010-08-09 14:34:00

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Re: IDE HD killed my system

Pajaro wrote:

Even if i unplug my IDE drive, the problem persists. The only workarounds I found are to disable boot up filesystem check in fstab, or to hack rc.sysinit, so i am going to open a bug report.

Why does the system think your / is ext2 in the first place? Wrong fstab entry?

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#8 2010-08-09 14:41:35

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Re: IDE HD killed my system

I had seen another thread where the ops root drive was shown as ext2 inspite of him having used ext4 during installation. Let me find that thread to see if it might be a related issue.

EDIT: Here it is. Looks like the whole "ext2" thing is just a wrong info message, but I cannot confirm since I do not have this issue. So I guess this is no solution for Pajaro

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=805206

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#9 2010-08-09 15:02:47

Pajaro
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Re: IDE HD killed my system

I tried adding "rootfstype=ext4" to grub. It didn't have any effect. And about the corruption in the filesystem, fsck runs fine (fsck.ext4 -fy <dev>).

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#10 2010-08-09 16:05:01

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Re: IDE HD killed my system

Perhaps when you added the IDE drive the pins in the cable connector were bent and cause your difficulty.

EDIT:  Verify that the sata drive is boot first device in bios....................

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#11 2010-08-09 16:29:23

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Re: IDE HD killed my system


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#12 2010-08-12 10:06:14

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Re: IDE HD killed my system

Stebalien wrote:

You can guess. I don't have to. I know I didn't express myself right. Obviusly it didn't get clear enough that the partition is found, so it is not a n00b situation. I've been using Arch Linux for 6 years now. I've seen most of its evolution. It is not a basic problem. I repeat, I can boot the system if i disable boot stage fsck. So, most probably fsck is going nuts, since:

Arch Linux just does this:

/sbin/fsck -A -T -C$FSCK_FD -a -t "$NETFS,noopts=_netdev" $FORCEFSCK >$FSCK_OUT 2>$FSCK_ERR

having:

FSCK_FD=
NETFS="nonfs,nonfs4,nosmbfs,nocifs,nocodafs,noncpfs,nosysfs,noshfs,nofuse,nofuseblk,noglusterfs"
FORCEFSCK is usually empty
FSCK_OUT=/dev/stdout
FSCK_ERR=/dev/stdout

Which, acording to fsck documentation, is perfectly fine. Arch seems to have hands clean, but I cannot run any live test since my usb keyboard does not work at boot stage, though I have added usbinput hook on mkinitcpio.conf.

My next move is going to be to specifically disable the fsck line in rc.sysinit, to make 100% sure that it is the source of the problem.

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#13 2010-08-12 16:57:34

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Re: IDE HD killed my system

Pajaro wrote:
Stebalien wrote:

You can guess. I don't have to. I know I didn't express myself right. Obviusly it didn't get clear enough that the partition is found, so it is not a n00b situation. I've been using Arch Linux for 6 years now. I've seen most of its evolution. It is not a basic problem. I repeat, I can boot the system if i disable boot stage fsck.

I didn't mean to offend you. I had the exact same error and using UUIDs fixed it.
FSCK should not be the problem as you only changed the drives, not the data on them.


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#14 2010-08-15 13:07:07

Pajaro
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Re: IDE HD killed my system

Thank you Stebalien. Sorry for my reaction. I didn't want to sound rude. I just wanted to clarify things.

I opened a bug report:
http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/20487

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