kernel from testing and x-server

lumiwa · 2007-02-07 01:29:15

Hi!

I also try to install kernel 2.6.20 from testing. Everything looks okay just X server doesn't start. I was to busy to wrote an error (I am back on 2.6.19). Maybe tomorrow...

lumiwa · 2007-02-07 01:46:29

lumiwa wrote:

Hi!
I also try to install kernel 2.6.20 from testing. Everything looks okay just X server doesn't start. I was to busy to wrote an error (I am back on 2.6.19). Maybe tomorrow...

I tried again and when I run startx I get an error in Xorg.log:

Backtrace:
0: X(xf86SigHandler+0x84) [0x80d0284]
1: [0xffffe420]
2: X(main+0x6ad) [0x806e7ed]
3: /lib/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xd8) [0xb7d087c8]
4: X(FontFileCompleteXLFD+0xa1) [0x806d8f1]

Fatal server error:
Caught signal 11. Server aborting

I have ATI Radeon 9000 and Mesa drivers. With kernel 2.6.19 everything is okay.

Thanks in advance.

badger · 2007-02-07 22:00:07

Same symptoms at my end (and I use the xf86-video-ati Radeon driver). Downgrading xorg-server from 1.2.0-1 and related packages didn't seem to help- only downgrading kernel26 2.6.20-1 to 2.6.19.2-1. Rather than open a new bug report I've added a note to a recent bug report that seems quite related (different symptoms, but related to the same mix of xorg-server 1.2.0, ATI video card and kernel26 2.6.20-1: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/6366
and the associated thread: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=29661

cheers

Borelia · 2007-02-08 11:38:54

I tried to install kernel 2.6.20 from testing too. Everything looks okay just X server doesn't start. I am using nvidia, I don't know what to do with disable vesa first in boot manager video=vesa:off - load the correct framebuffer module from MODULES= in rc.conf ??? an example would have been nice.
I went back to 2.6.19.2-1 and the nvidia logo turned up again, x-server started. I did try the nvidia drivers in testing, too when I installed kernel 2.6.20.

Last edited by Borelia (2007-02-10 11:02:07)

once · 2007-02-09 05:19:48

same problem here.

matsche · 2007-02-09 08:35:50

same here,
ati radeon 9000 (Mesa) and kernel 2.6.20 from [testing]

bunnyhugh · 2007-02-09 19:06:36

I have a radeon 9550, when using the new kernel from testing the X server does start but it takes a long time (about 20 seconds). Once started it all seems fine.

As with others downgrading to 2.6.19 cures the slow start

junglepeanut · 2007-02-09 20:10:44

I just thought I would add:

I have been using this kernel and did not experience any issues.

[XXXXX@XXXX~]$ uname -a
Linux XXXX 2.6.20-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Feb 6 10:39:12 CET 2007 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.73GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
[XXXXX@XX ~]$

Gateway 8510GZ
ATI X700
Open Source Drivers (i.e. ati/radeon driver installed not fglrx)

Hope this helps.

lumiwa · 2007-02-09 20:48:31

looks like that problem is with ATI Radeon 9000 PRO with OpenSource drivers (Mesa not fglrx) if you read above posts.

junglepeanut · 2007-02-10 01:24:36

I believe Mesa is your graphics library. ati and radeon are the open source graphic card drivers and fglrx is the closed source proprietary driver for the AMD(ATI) graphic card set.

Next I noticed an additional poster placed that this effect was occurring with their systems with a slightly different card i.e. a 9800.

Then recognizing that you had this issue and wanted it fixed, I posted this hoping that since I am using the same library, kernel, and drivers but only have a different card a developer may read this and then be able to recognize the difference between the two cards; thus maybe adding some additional information to solve the problem quicker.

If there is any other information that I can send to help or narrow the problem down in regards to my systems setup compared to others, just let me know and I will look it up if I know how.

once · 2007-02-10 01:56:52

once wrote:

same problem here.

using nvidia driver, btw.

Borelia · 2007-02-10 10:59:45

Borelia wrote:

I tried to install kernel 2.6.20 from testing too. Everything looks okay just X server doesn't start. I am using nvidia, I don't know what to do with disable vesa first in boot manager video=vesa:off - load the correct framebuffer module from MODULES= in rc.conf ??? an example would have been nice.
I went back to 2.6.19.2-1 and the nvidia logo turned up again, x-server started. I did try the nvidia drivers in testing, too when I installed kernel 2.6.20.

?
in boot manager video=vesa:off - load the correct framebuffer module from MODULES= in rc.conf ??? an example would have been nice. ??
ps ...I am using nvidia

Last edited by Borelia (2007-02-10 11:01:33)

lumiwa · 2007-02-10 15:41:13

Again me...maybe will help developers. I am running Linux fro SLAX live cd now. It has a new kernel 2.6.20 and staryx and KDE work very good and fast. There are no problems.

Borelia · 2007-02-11 09:19:00

#lumiwa
running a livecd is like running the kernel without your radion driver installed, you can do the same in arch, change the driver in xorg.conf to vesa.
No, I am looking forward to get this problem with the graphic driver solved. And this mean what the fu.. does this written just below the kernel news mean ;;;in boot manager video=vesa:off - load the correct framebuffer module from MODULES= in rc.conf
load the correct framebuffer???

tpowa · 2007-02-11 10:10:33

this framebuffer info means:
if you want to use the kernel framebuffer driver for your card, enable it like i posted it.
There are issues with binary modules from nvidia and ati that dissallow the use of those modules by default. So the fb modules are disabled by default by udev-105-3 package.

Is on your machines any fb module loaded?
lsmod | grep fb
if yes this could explain the xorg trouble.

Borelia · 2007-02-11 11:45:43

lsmod | grep fb showed nothing, meaning that no fb modules are loaded.
I then tried to install kernel 2.6.20 again and then I was told to use 96xx nvidia because I have a geforce 4200ti on this computer. X-server didn't work anyway, then back to old kernel, but then I get this.

: kernel26-2.6.20-1: local version is newer. Upgrade anyway? [Y/n] Y
Targets: kernel26-2.6.19.2-1
Total Package Size: 18.8 MB

Proceed with upgrade? [Y/n] Y
checking package integrity... done.
loading package data... done.
checking for file conflicts...
error: the following file conflicts were found:
kernel26: /lib/modules/2.6.19-ARCH/modules.alias: exists in filesystem
kernel26: /lib/modules/2.6.19-ARCH/modules.ccwmap: exists in filesystem
kernel26: /lib/modules/2.6.19-ARCH/modules.dep: exists in filesystem
kernel26: /lib/modules/2.6.19-ARCH/modules.ieee1394map: exists in filesystem
kernel26: /lib/modules/2.6.19-ARCH/modules.inputmap: exists in filesystem
kernel26: /lib/modules/2.6.19-ARCH/modules.isapnpmap: exists in filesystem
kernel26: /lib/modules/2.6.19-ARCH/modules.ofmap: exists in filesystem
kernel26: /lib/modules/2.6.19-ARCH/modules.pcimap: exists in filesystem
kernel26: /lib/modules/2.6.19-ARCH/modules.seriomap: exists in filesystem
kernel26: /lib/modules/2.6.19-ARCH/modules.symbols: exists in filesystem
kernel26: /lib/modules/2.6.19-ARCH/modules.usbmap: exists in filesystem
errors occurred, no packages were upgrade
So, rm it all and then back to 2.6.19

reg:
Ok back on default kernel,
just a ps..
If I just install the new kernel and reboot the first thing I see on the screen closing down is done done, but the Altaration Monitor Fail
I don't know if that could be any help?

Last edited by Borelia (2007-02-11 11:56:39)

tpowa · 2007-02-11 13:15:18

are you using the vesa framebuffer?

lumiwa · 2007-02-11 13:37:12

Borelia wrote:

#lumiwa
running a livecd is like running the kernel without your radion driver installed, you can do the same in arch, change the driver in xorg.conf to vesa.
No, I am looking forward to get this problem with the graphic driver solved. And this mean what the fu.. does this written just below the kernel news mean ;;;in boot manager video=vesa:off - load the correct framebuffer module from MODULES= in rc.conf
load the correct framebuffer???

SLAX has option xconf and in xog.conf I hahave/had ATI ards. xconf find everything: monitor and ATI cards and xorg.conf on SLAX is almost same as on Arch. GLXINFO shows same as on Arch for example (ARI RAdeon 9000 Pro, chip 250....).
Download and try...

lumiwa · 2007-02-11 15:41:51

Borelia wrote:

#lumiwa
running a livecd is like running the kernel without your radion driver installed, you can do the same in arch, change the driver in xorg.conf to vesa.
No, I am looking forward to get this problem with the graphic driver solved. And this mean what the fu.. does this written just below the kernel news mean ;;;in boot manager video=vesa:off - load the correct framebuffer module from MODULES= in rc.conf
load the correct framebuffer???

Again me...I am on SLAX now:

KinfoCenter shows:

ATI Technologies Inc
Radeon RV250 If [Radeon 9000]
ATI Technologies
01

Tungsten Graphics, Inc
Mesa DRI R200 20041207 AGP 1x x86/MMX/SSE2 TCL
1.3 Mesa 6.4.1
radeon
Than:
uname -a
Linux slax 2.6.20 #2 SMP Wed Feb 7 17:26:47 GMT 2007 i686 pentium4 i386 GNU/Linux
and lsmod show:
lsmod
Module Size Used by
radeon 122656 1
drm 72348 2 radeon
ipv6 242336 12
snd_seq_dummy 3980 0
snd_seq_oss 32384 0
snd_seq_midi_event 7040 1 snd_seq_oss
snd_seq 48368 5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_pcm_oss 43200 1
snd_mixer_oss 16128 2 snd_pcm_oss
pcmcia 32684 0
yenta_socket 25372 0
rsrc_nonstatic 12172 1 yenta_socket
pcmcia_core 35644 3 pcmcia,yenta_socket,rsrc_nonstatic
sg 28968 0
capability 4364 0
commoncap 6272 1 capability
fuse 40596 0
lp 11048 0
parport_pc 25700 1
parport 31944 2 lp,parport_pc
psmouse 36896 0
usb_storage 83776 0
snd_emu10k1 128096 2
snd_rawmidi 20032 1 snd_emu10k1
sk98lin 157600 0
snd_ac97_codec 96300 1 snd_emu10k1
ac97_bus 3072 1 snd_ac97_codec
snd_pcm 71948 3 snd_pcm_oss,snd_emu10k1,snd_ac97_codec
snd_seq_device 7564 5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_emu10k1,snd_rawmidi
snd_timer 21000 3 snd_seq,snd_emu10k1,snd_pcm
ata_generic 6152 0
pcspkr 3584 0
skge 37012 0
snd_page_alloc 8712 2 snd_emu10k1,snd_pcm
shpchp 31264 0
ehci_hcd 31256 0
8139too 23696 0
uhci_hcd 22676 0
i2c_i801 8076 0
mii 5888 1 8139too
intel_agp 22172 1
iTCO_wdt 10412 0
snd_util_mem 4480 1 snd_emu10k1
iTCO_vendor_support 4616 1 iTCO_wdt
serio_raw 6404 0
agpgart 29256 2 drm,intel_agp
snd_hwdep 7812 1 snd_emu10k1
emu10k1_gp 3968 0
i2c_core 18816 1 i2c_i801
gameport 12552 2 emu10k1_gp
evdev 9216 0
snd 46436 12 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_emu10k1,snd_rawmidi,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_seq_device,snd_timer,snd_hwdep
soundcore 7136 3 snd
nls_iso8859_2 5504 0
nls_iso8859_1 4992 0
nls_cp437 6656 0
aufs 86192 1
squashfs 46724 10
sqlzma 4100 1 squashfs
unlzma 5248 1 sqlzma

If you need it something more just ask me...

Borelia · 2007-02-11 16:17:59

#tpowa
If I can´t boot with nvidia as driver in xorg.conf I change it to vesa.

tpowa · 2007-02-11 18:23:07

# borelia no i mean do you use any fb mode?
like video=0x317 on boot line

lumiwa · 2007-02-11 18:31:40

@tpowa: I don't have any like video... lines.

Borelia · 2007-02-11 19:17:11

I have vga=795
But I have tried video=vesa:off ..but what am I going to write in rc.conf modules(nvidia???)

And I wonder why there is no kernel-headers for kernel 2.6.20-x, and last are there anything else, I have to get, besides kernel and nvidia nvidia-utils?

Last edited by Borelia (2007-02-11 19:42:35)

tpowa · 2007-02-12 06:56:27

borelia is you card still supported by latest nvidia drivers?
and please do not play with video=vesa:off and frambuffers if you use nvidia binary drivers

Borelia · 2007-02-12 09:07:57

The two cards I have on my computers, found on the nvidia Supported Products List
GeForce4 Ti 4200 0x0253
GeForce 7600 GT 0x0391

If I'm not using the frame buffers vga=795 the boot is going to be damn ugly!! How am I going to replace that?

REG: I've got it I'm up and running using the nvidia drivers.
ti 4200.
2.6.20-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun Feb 11 19:53:31
17790 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3557.950 FPS

thx tpowa

Last edited by Borelia (2007-02-12 09:34:59)

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