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#1 2007-02-07 01:29:15

lumiwa
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kernel from testing and x-server

Hi!

I also try to install kernel 2.6.20 from testing. Everything looks okay just X server doesn't start. I was to busy to wrote an error (I am back on 2.6.19). Maybe tomorrow...

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#2 2007-02-07 01:46:29

lumiwa
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Re: kernel from testing and x-server

lumiwa wrote:

Hi!

I also try to install kernel 2.6.20 from testing. Everything looks okay just X server doesn't start. I was to busy to wrote an error (I am back on 2.6.19). Maybe tomorrow...

I tried again and when I run startx I get an error in Xorg.log:

Backtrace:
0: X(xf86SigHandler+0x84) [0x80d0284]
1: [0xffffe420]
2: X(main+0x6ad) [0x806e7ed]
3: /lib/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xd8) [0xb7d087c8]
4: X(FontFileCompleteXLFD+0xa1) [0x806d8f1]

Fatal server error:
Caught signal 11.  Server aborting

I have ATI Radeon 9000 and Mesa drivers. With kernel 2.6.19 everything is okay.

Thanks in advance.

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#3 2007-02-07 22:00:07

badger
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Re: kernel from testing and x-server

Same symptoms at my end (and I use the xf86-video-ati Radeon driver). Downgrading xorg-server from 1.2.0-1 and related packages didn't seem to help- only downgrading kernel26 2.6.20-1 to 2.6.19.2-1. Rather than open a new bug report I've added a note to a recent bug report that seems quite related (different symptoms, but related to the same mix of xorg-server 1.2.0, ATI video card and kernel26 2.6.20-1: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/6366
and the associated thread: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=29661

cheers

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#4 2007-02-08 11:38:54

Borelia
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Re: kernel from testing and x-server

I tried to install kernel 2.6.20 from testing too. Everything looks okay just X server doesn't start. I am using nvidia, I don't know what to do with disable vesa first in boot manager video=vesa:off - load the correct framebuffer module from MODULES= in rc.conf  ??? an example would have been nice. neutral
I went back to 2.6.19.2-1 and the nvidia logo turned up again, x-server started. I did try the nvidia drivers in testing, too when I installed kernel 2.6.20.

Last edited by Borelia (2007-02-10 11:02:07)

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#5 2007-02-09 05:19:48

once
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Re: kernel from testing and x-server

same problem here.

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#6 2007-02-09 08:35:50

matsche
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Re: kernel from testing and x-server

same here,
ati radeon 9000 (Mesa) and kernel 2.6.20 from [testing]


THX!!
cu matsche

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#7 2007-02-09 19:06:36

bunnyhugh
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Re: kernel from testing and x-server

I have a radeon 9550, when using the new kernel from testing the X server does start but it takes a long time (about 20 seconds). Once started it all seems fine.

As with others downgrading to 2.6.19 cures the slow start

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#8 2007-02-09 20:10:44

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Re: kernel from testing and x-server

I just thought I would add:

I have been using this kernel and did not experience any issues.

[XXXXX@XXXX~]$ uname -a
Linux XXXX 2.6.20-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Feb 6 10:39:12 CET 2007 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.73GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
[XXXXX@XX ~]$

Gateway 8510GZ
ATI X700
Open Source Drivers (i.e. ati/radeon driver installed not fglrx)

Hope this helps.

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#9 2007-02-09 20:48:31

lumiwa
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Re: kernel from testing and x-server

looks like that problem is with ATI Radeon 9000 PRO with OpenSource drivers (Mesa not fglrx) if you read above posts.

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#10 2007-02-10 01:24:36

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Re: kernel from testing and x-server

I believe Mesa is your graphics library. ati and radeon are the open source graphic card drivers and fglrx is the closed source proprietary driver for the AMD(ATI) graphic card set. 

Next I noticed an additional poster placed that this effect was occurring with their systems with a slightly different card i.e. a 9800.

Then recognizing that you had this issue and wanted it fixed, I posted this hoping that since I am using the same library, kernel, and drivers but only have a different card a developer may read this and then be able to recognize the difference between the two cards; thus maybe adding some additional information to solve the problem quicker.

If there is any other information that I can send to help or narrow the problem down in regards to my systems setup compared to others, just let me know and I will look it up if I know how.

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#11 2007-02-10 01:56:52

once
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Re: kernel from testing and x-server

once wrote:

same problem here.

using nvidia driver, btw.

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#12 2007-02-10 10:59:45

Borelia
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Re: kernel from testing and x-server

Borelia wrote:

I  tried to install kernel 2.6.20 from testing too. Everything looks okay just X server doesn't start. I am using nvidia, I don't know what to do with disable vesa first in boot manager video=vesa:off - load the correct framebuffer module from MODULES= in rc.conf  ??? an example would have been nice. neutral
I went back to 2.6.19.2-1 and the nvidia logo turned up again, x-server started. I did try the nvidia drivers in testing, too when I installed kernel 2.6.20.

?
in boot manager video=vesa:off - load the correct framebuffer module from MODULES= in rc.conf  ??? an example would have been nice. neutral  ??
ps ...I am using nvidia

Last edited by Borelia (2007-02-10 11:01:33)

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#13 2007-02-10 15:41:13

lumiwa
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Re: kernel from testing and x-server

Again me...maybe will help developers. I am running Linux fro SLAX live cd now. It has a new kernel 2.6.20 and staryx and KDE work very good and fast. There are no problems.

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#14 2007-02-11 09:19:00

Borelia
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Re: kernel from testing and x-server

#lumiwa
running a livecd is like running the kernel without your radion driver installed, you can do the same in arch, change the driver in xorg.conf to vesa.
No, I am looking forward to get this problem with the graphic driver solved. And this mean what the fu.. does this written just below the kernel news mean ;;;in boot manager video=vesa:off - load the correct framebuffer module from MODULES= in rc.conf
load the correct framebuffer???

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#15 2007-02-11 10:10:33

tpowa
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Re: kernel from testing and x-server

this framebuffer info means:
if you want to use the kernel framebuffer driver for your card, enable it like i posted it.
There are issues with binary modules from nvidia and ati that dissallow the use of those modules by default. So the fb modules are disabled by default by udev-105-3 package.

Is on your machines any fb module loaded?
lsmod | grep fb
if yes this could explain the xorg trouble.

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#16 2007-02-11 11:45:43

Borelia
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Re: kernel from testing and x-server

lsmod | grep fb showed nothing, meaning that no fb modules are loaded.
I then tried to install kernel  2.6.20 again and then I was told to use 96xx nvidia because I have a geforce 4200ti on this computer. X-server didn't work anyway, then back to old kernel, but then I get this.

: kernel26-2.6.20-1: local version is newer.  Upgrade anyway? [Y/n] Y
Targets: kernel26-2.6.19.2-1
Total Package Size:   18.8 MB

Proceed with upgrade? [Y/n] Y
checking package integrity... done.
loading package data... done.
checking for file conflicts...
error: the following file conflicts were found:
  kernel26: /lib/modules/2.6.19-ARCH/modules.alias: exists in filesystem
  kernel26: /lib/modules/2.6.19-ARCH/modules.ccwmap: exists in filesystem
  kernel26: /lib/modules/2.6.19-ARCH/modules.dep: exists in filesystem
  kernel26: /lib/modules/2.6.19-ARCH/modules.ieee1394map: exists in filesystem
  kernel26: /lib/modules/2.6.19-ARCH/modules.inputmap: exists in filesystem
  kernel26: /lib/modules/2.6.19-ARCH/modules.isapnpmap: exists in filesystem
  kernel26: /lib/modules/2.6.19-ARCH/modules.ofmap: exists in filesystem
  kernel26: /lib/modules/2.6.19-ARCH/modules.pcimap: exists in filesystem
  kernel26: /lib/modules/2.6.19-ARCH/modules.seriomap: exists in filesystem
  kernel26: /lib/modules/2.6.19-ARCH/modules.symbols: exists in filesystem
  kernel26: /lib/modules/2.6.19-ARCH/modules.usbmap: exists in filesystem
errors occurred, no packages were upgrade
So, rm it all and then back to 2.6.19

reg:
Ok back on default kernel,
just a ps..
If I just install the new kernel and reboot the first thing I see on the screen closing down is done done, but the Altaration Monitor Fail
I don't know if that could be any help?

Last edited by Borelia (2007-02-11 11:56:39)

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#17 2007-02-11 13:15:18

tpowa
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Re: kernel from testing and x-server

are you using the vesa framebuffer?

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#18 2007-02-11 13:37:12

lumiwa
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Re: kernel from testing and x-server

Borelia wrote:

#lumiwa
running a livecd is like running the kernel without your radion driver installed, you can do the same in arch, change the driver in xorg.conf to vesa.
No, I am looking forward to get this problem with the graphic driver solved. And this mean what the fu.. does this written just below the kernel news mean ;;;in boot manager video=vesa:off - load the correct framebuffer module from MODULES= in rc.conf
load the correct framebuffer???

SLAX has option xconf and in xog.conf I hahave/had ATI ards. xconf find everything: monitor and ATI cards and xorg.conf on SLAX is almost same as on Arch. GLXINFO shows same as on Arch for example (ARI RAdeon 9000 Pro, chip 250....).
Download and try...

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#19 2007-02-11 15:41:51

lumiwa
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Re: kernel from testing and x-server

Borelia wrote:

#lumiwa
running a livecd is like running the kernel without your radion driver installed, you can do the same in arch, change the driver in xorg.conf to vesa.
No, I am looking forward to get this problem with the graphic driver solved. And this mean what the fu.. does this written just below the kernel news mean ;;;in boot manager video=vesa:off - load the correct framebuffer module from MODULES= in rc.conf
load the correct framebuffer???

Again me...I am on SLAX now:

KinfoCenter shows:

ATI Technologies Inc
Radeon RV250 If [Radeon 9000]
ATI Technologies
01

Tungsten Graphics, Inc
Mesa DRI R200 20041207 AGP 1x x86/MMX/SSE2 TCL
1.3 Mesa 6.4.1
radeon
Than:
uname -a
Linux slax 2.6.20 #2 SMP Wed Feb 7 17:26:47 GMT 2007 i686 pentium4 i386 GNU/Linux
and lsmod show:
lsmod
Module                  Size  Used by
radeon                122656  1
drm                    72348  2 radeon
ipv6                  242336  12
snd_seq_dummy           3980  0
snd_seq_oss            32384  0
snd_seq_midi_event      7040  1 snd_seq_oss
snd_seq                48368  5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_pcm_oss            43200  1
snd_mixer_oss          16128  2 snd_pcm_oss
pcmcia                 32684  0
yenta_socket           25372  0
rsrc_nonstatic         12172  1 yenta_socket
pcmcia_core            35644  3 pcmcia,yenta_socket,rsrc_nonstatic
sg                     28968  0
capability              4364  0
commoncap               6272  1 capability
fuse                   40596  0
lp                     11048  0
parport_pc             25700  1
parport                31944  2 lp,parport_pc
psmouse                36896  0
usb_storage            83776  0
snd_emu10k1           128096  2
snd_rawmidi            20032  1 snd_emu10k1
sk98lin               157600  0
snd_ac97_codec         96300  1 snd_emu10k1
ac97_bus                3072  1 snd_ac97_codec
snd_pcm                71948  3 snd_pcm_oss,snd_emu10k1,snd_ac97_codec
snd_seq_device          7564  5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_emu10k1,snd_rawmidi
snd_timer              21000  3 snd_seq,snd_emu10k1,snd_pcm
ata_generic             6152  0
pcspkr                  3584  0
skge                   37012  0
snd_page_alloc          8712  2 snd_emu10k1,snd_pcm
shpchp                 31264  0
ehci_hcd               31256  0
8139too                23696  0
uhci_hcd               22676  0
i2c_i801                8076  0
mii                     5888  1 8139too
intel_agp              22172  1
iTCO_wdt               10412  0
snd_util_mem            4480  1 snd_emu10k1
iTCO_vendor_support     4616  1 iTCO_wdt
serio_raw               6404  0
agpgart                29256  2 drm,intel_agp
snd_hwdep               7812  1 snd_emu10k1
emu10k1_gp              3968  0
i2c_core               18816  1 i2c_i801
gameport               12552  2 emu10k1_gp
evdev                   9216  0
snd                    46436  12 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_emu10k1,snd_rawmidi,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_seq_device,snd_timer,snd_hwdep
soundcore               7136  3 snd
nls_iso8859_2           5504  0
nls_iso8859_1           4992  0
nls_cp437               6656  0
aufs                   86192  1
squashfs               46724  10
sqlzma                  4100  1 squashfs
unlzma                  5248  1 sqlzma

If you need it something more just ask me...

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#20 2007-02-11 16:17:59

Borelia
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Re: kernel from testing and x-server

#tpowa
If I can´t boot with nvidia as driver in xorg.conf I change it to vesa.

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#21 2007-02-11 18:23:07

tpowa
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Re: kernel from testing and x-server

# borelia no i mean do you use any fb mode?
like video=0x317 on boot line

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#22 2007-02-11 18:31:40

lumiwa
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Re: kernel from testing and x-server

@tpowa: I don't have any like video... lines.

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#23 2007-02-11 19:17:11

Borelia
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Re: kernel from testing and x-server

I have vga=795
But I have tried video=vesa:off ..but what am I going to write in rc.conf modules(nvidia???)

And I wonder why there is no kernel-headers for kernel 2.6.20-x, and last are there anything else, I have to get, besides kernel and nvidia nvidia-utils?

Last edited by Borelia (2007-02-11 19:42:35)

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#24 2007-02-12 06:56:27

tpowa
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Re: kernel from testing and x-server

borelia is you card still supported by latest nvidia drivers?
and please do not play with video=vesa:off and frambuffers if you use nvidia binary drivers

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#25 2007-02-12 09:07:57

Borelia
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Re: kernel from testing and x-server

The two cards I have on my computers, found on the nvidia Supported Products List
GeForce4 Ti 4200     0x0253
GeForce 7600 GT     0x0391

If I'm not using the frame buffers vga=795 the boot is going to be damn ugly!! How am I going to replace that?



REG: I've got it I'm up and running using the nvidia drivers.
ti 4200.
2.6.20-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun Feb 11 19:53:31
17790 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3557.950 FPS

thx tpowa

Last edited by Borelia (2007-02-12 09:34:59)

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