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lazylogic · 2008-04-22 13:27:23

Just installed ArchLinux onto a usb thumbdrive and the speed of ArchLinux is AMAZING !!
Hope I can learn to be a Archer

I've installed the kde-base during install and is looking for the common apps like kmix and kopete.

pacman -Syy
pacman -Ss kmix kopete

returns nothing.

An online search here

http://www.archlinux.org/packages/

also returns nothing.

[core] [extra] [community] [unstable] had been enabled in /etc/pacman.conf

But I've read this forum and notice that people are using kmix, meaning kmix should be available.

So, believe I am missing something big and important while reading through the wiki and beginner guide

Really appreciate if someone can give a new comer a little help, THANKS :D

Cerebral · 2008-04-22 13:41:25

Since we don't split our KDE packages, I believe kmix and kopete are available in one of the kde* packages (for example, I'm pretty sure kopete is in kdenetwork, and kmix might be in kdemultimedia)

If you want split packages, search around for KDEMod - a community project to split the large KDE packages up into their smaller applications

lazylogic · 2008-04-22 13:55:48

Cerebral wrote:

Since we don't split our KDE packages, I believe kmix and kopete are available in one of the kde* packages (for example, I'm pretty sure kopete is in kdenetwork, and kmix might be in kdemultimedia)
If you want split packages, search around for KDEMod - a community project to split the large KDE packages up into their smaller applications

THANKS Cerebral,

am now trying to install kdemultimedia and kdenetwork :D

besides using pacman, is there some other common ways the archlinux users used to install packages?
e.g. am looking for xbacklight to dim the laptop brightness, but seems not available.

any good links that I could read up :)

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Cerebral · 2008-04-22 14:05:43

Pacman's our one and only, however we have the AUR (arch user repository) for users to submit their PKGBUILDs for apps we might not have in our official repos. Check the "AUR" link at the top of the site.

As for xbacklight, it's part of the xorg-server-utils package, IIRC.

For stuff to read up, the Wiki beginner's guide is a great repository of information.

http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners_Guide

bgc1954 · 2008-04-22 14:13:19

Actually, alot of folks like yaourt: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=25718 I haven't tried it myself as I rather like just pacman but it's popular around here.

lazylogic · 2008-04-22 14:27:27

Cerebral wrote:

Pacman's our one and only, however we have the AUR (arch user repository) for users to submit their PKGBUILDs for apps we might not have in our official repos. Check the "AUR" link at the top of the site.
As for xbacklight, it's part of the xorg-server-utils package, IIRC.
For stuff to read up, the Wiki beginner's guide is a great repository of information.
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners_Guide

Cerebral, did I mention that you are a GREAT!!!!! guy

I've installed ArchLinux using the Wiki beginner's guide. Believe I may have missed some important stuff iwhile reading it the first time. Will definitely read it again during the weekend!

There's two big question in my head:

First: Since pacman -Q xbacklight returns "error: package xbacklight not found"

How do you (besides being very smart) know which application is inside which package?
Is there a trick or packaging list somewhere that I can check in future.

Second: Should I stick to pacman as the one and only package manager?

Again , thanks a million for helping me out !!!

ArchLinux will definitely be a permanent install all my future computers

lazylogic · 2008-04-22 14:37:54

bgc1954 wrote:

Actually, alot of folks like yaourt: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=25718 I haven't tried it myself as I rather like just pacman but it's popular around here.

Hi bgc1954,

i've actually added the yaourt repo (when reading the beginner's guide) into /etc/pacman.conf but didn't enable it because:

1. didn't really have time to really learn pacman yet
e.g. couldn't even find kmix, xbacklight -- luckily I met Cerebral

2. wanted to find out if it is technically correct (from archlinux point of view) to use other repo other then the official pacman repos.

anway thanks for the link, will find time to read and understand it

Cerebral · 2008-04-22 14:41:00

lazylogic wrote:

There's two big question in my head:
First: Since pacman -Q xbacklight returns "error: package xbacklight not found"
How do you (besides being very smart) know which application is inside which package?
Is there a trick or packaging list somewhere that I can check in future.

Well, for the KDE stuff I just took an educated guess. For xbacklight, I actually did a google search for

xbacklight site:http://www.archlinux.org/packages/files

At the moment, that google search will return the packages that have files with 'xbacklight' in them.

Second: Should I stick to pacman as the one and only package manager?

Well, it's up to you, but the other "alternatives" such as yaourt and so on are generally just wrappers around pacman itself (or pacman's library, libalpm), that add extra functionality (such as auto-building from the AUR). I'd suggest sticking with pacman until you learn to read PKGBUILDs, because anyone can upload anything to the AUR, and if you don't check out the PKGBUILD files yourself to ensure they look OK, you could fall prey to a malicious packager.

Cerebral · 2008-04-22 14:42:51

lazylogic wrote:

2. wanted to find out if it is technically correct (from archlinux point of view) to use other repo other then the official pacman repos.

So long as you trust the person in charge of the non-official repos, it's perfectly 'technically correct'.

lazylogic · 2008-04-22 14:49:36

Cerebral wrote:

lazylogic wrote:
There's two big question in my head:
xbacklight site:http://www.archlinux.org/packages/files
At the moment, that google search will return the packages that have files with 'xbacklight' in them.

Anyway, thanks for sharing and all the advises !!

Hope you will still come to my help in future

fflarex · 2008-04-22 14:50:26

To check which package a file belongs to (like the xbacklight executable, in this example), you would do a command like:
pacman -Qo `which xbacklight`

Unfortunately I don't think you can do anything like this until the package is already installed. You can check what files a package contains by searching Arch's packages on the website, and then clicking on the "view file list" link, but you have to already know what package you're looking for. (EDIT: nevermind, I hadn't thought of the google solution suggested above)

Anyways, most of the time it's not a problem, and I think in time you'll find Arch's package management superior to most else that's out there. If you don't like the command line, there are a couple graphical frontends out there somewhere, but I don't have any advice as far as those go. Yaourt is good if you use a lot of packages from AUR (although I still prefer to just do that myself anyway).

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