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Now that we have systemd, which I believe does things like syslog and cron, will these packages be removed from base?
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Good suggestion, but posting to the forums offers little chance that the package maintainer will see it. Open a bug report against the package for direct delivery
EDIT: I'm guessing this won't happen until the official move to systemd but it never hurts to make a placeholder in the flyspray system.
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Good suggestion, but posting to the forums offers little chance that the package maintainer will see it.
Indeed. Closing...
EDIT: I'm guessing this won't happen until the official move to systemd but it never hurts to make a placeholder in the flyspray system.
Yes we still haven't officially moved to systemd, so those packages will stay until initscripts stays. Also I would advice against opening phantom bugs or placeholder bugs. Open one when we actually move to systemd and if the dev hasn't removed the said packages from the base.
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This as already been done 2 days ago: https://projects.archlinux.org/svntogit … 6a3046ead5
about cron is too early IMHO.
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reopened...
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reopened...
why?
If syslog-ng is removed from base shouldnt the same be done for logrotate? I dont think its capable of working with systemd's journal, is it?
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if syslog-ng is remover from base but not from core I think
but this need a new release of filesystem adding /var/log/journal
for chron is sooo early
and fedora want switch too aparently
Well, I suppose that this is somekind of signature, no?
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Same issue discussed on the fedora development mailing list:
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermai … 72682.html
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but this need a new release of filesystem adding /var/log/journal
done 46 hours ago: https://projects.archlinux.org/svntogit … ec61a3f677
If syslog-ng is removed from base shouldnt the same be done for logrotate?
no, there're logs that are not handled by syslog (e.g. kdm.log)
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Yes we still haven't officially moved to systemd, so those packages will stay until initscripts stays.
Actually, we have. What does the word "official" mean in your context?
As far as I am concerned, cron will stay - systemd does not provide a full cron replacement and I don't think that is planned.
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Inxsible wrote:Yes we still haven't officially moved to systemd, so those packages will stay until initscripts stays.
Actually, we have. What does the word "official" mean in your context?
As far as I am concerned, cron will stay - systemd does not provide a full cron replacement and I don't think that is planned.
yeah I was corrected by Andrea in an earlier post, which is why I re-opened this thread.
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If logging is now done by systemd can I remove syslog-ng service?
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If logging is now done by systemd can I remove syslog-ng service?
If you want.
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Mr Green: More details found in man journald.conf. Search for syslog and be pleasantly surprised.
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I kept around syslong-ng for a while after switching. Systemd being new territory for me, it seemes I should keep around familiar stuff until I deemed it not necessary. But syslog-ng was one of the first things to go, since journalctl made it seem super redundant.
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@fsckd must have read systemd wiki page wrong simply added syslog-ng service as I was going through my daemons in rc.conf thanks for the heads up
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