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#51 2013-09-05 23:07:10

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Re: How does one become a moderator, administrator, etc?

Well this thread derailed quickly....

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#52 2013-09-06 00:39:47

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Re: How does one become a moderator, administrator, etc?

@cfr

Yes, and have been ever since I tried to book a room at the Hilbert Hotel and and was told there was no vacancy, and was then handed the key to room 1.

But I'm not specific to paradoxes.  I'm an absurdofile for all forms.  I'd change my name if I could only decide on one of Guildenstern and Rosencrantz.  I suppose I am fated to die with neither name.  Or with either, if I chose.

But why would I chose, to die?

EDIT: I had missed the comment on derailing over the page break as I was posting.  I don't wish to contribute to derailing a thread that has rails - but this seemed to have all the answer it could get.

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#53 2013-09-06 01:48:36

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Re: How does one become a moderator, administrator, etc?

Trilby wrote:

I had missed the comment on derailing over the page break as I was posting.  I don't wish to contribute to derailing a thread that has rails - but this seemed to have all the answer it could get.

But, why?

It was the moderators themselves who bolted the derail device to the tracks smile

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#54 2013-09-06 08:56:05

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Re: How does one become a moderator, administrator, etc?

fsckd wrote:
life_enjoyer wrote:

What kind of fight?

This is what happened to the last moderator to leave us.

As the (former) moderator in question I can attest to that. I'd like to think I gave it a fairly good fight (all 9.3 seconds of it) though!


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#55 2013-09-06 09:57:01

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Re: How does one become a moderator, administrator, etc?

This is all very nice and all the bromance is very touching... but did he get the job?

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#56 2013-09-06 10:02:26

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Re: How does one become a moderator, administrator, etc?

He didn't ask for one in the first place.

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#57 2013-09-06 10:07:58

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Re: How does one become a moderator, administrator, etc?

satanselbow wrote:

This is all very nice and all the bromance is very touching... but did he get the job?

If you're asking if life_enjoyer is a moderator, check his forum user group - it still says 'Member', so nope, he's not an Admin / mod.

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#58 2013-09-06 10:10:05

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Re: How does one become a moderator, administrator, etc?

T'was kinda allured to in the long distant original post ... or maybe just sorting out future career path ... or tacos ...

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#59 2013-09-10 07:38:13

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Re: How does one become a moderator, administrator, etc?

I would hope maturity and grace are amongst the considerations.


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#60 2013-09-10 10:44:32

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Re: How does one become a moderator, administrator, etc?

They absolutely are, rufus.  Such characteristics really have no place in a moderation team! wink


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#61 2013-09-10 17:14:45

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Re: How does one become a moderator, administrator, etc?

Speaking of maturity... Trilby, everytime I see your signature, my eyes are glued to "Interrobang". Can you please cum up with an explanation why?

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#62 2013-09-10 17:25:06

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Re: How does one become a moderator, administrator, etc?

Awebb wrote:

Speaking of maturity... Trilby, everytime I see your signature, my eyes are glued to "Interrobang". Can you please cum up with an explanation why?

Not sure I get what does it have to do with maturity - it's a punctuation mark https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interrobang

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#63 2013-09-10 17:33:07

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Re: How does one become a moderator, administrator, etc?

I'd hate to see how you react to reading scripts that start with SheBangs.

I suppose I could have named it after a dinkus ... which is another name for an asterism.

Lots of punctuation marks have interesting names.  I'm rather fond also of pilcrows, interpuncts, and hederas.  But I suppose you get the point.


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#64 2013-09-12 04:36:44

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Re: How does one become a moderator, administrator, etc?

Trilby wrote:

I'd hate to see how you react to reading scripts that start with SheBangs.

I suppose I could have named it after a dinkus ... which is another name for an asterism.

Lots of punctuation marks have interesting names.  I'm rather fond also of pilcrows, interpuncts, and hederas.  But I suppose you get the point.

I always wondered what those were called! pilcrows and interpuncts... huh

I want to ask one last thing as long as we're all here,
Can moderators delete posts? I have only ever seen posts moved or had their contents erased but never actually completely removed...

Last edited by life_enjoyer (2013-09-12 04:50:50)


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#65 2013-09-12 04:47:27

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Re: How does one become a moderator, administrator, etc?

How to be a mod ? well, i don't know. But if all your threads turn out like this i'd say your chances are low maybe big_smile?


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#66 2013-09-12 04:52:49

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Re: How does one become a moderator, administrator, etc?

SilverOne wrote:

How to be a mod ? well, i don't know. But if all your threads turn out like this i'd say your chances are low maybe big_smile?

I really don't have the time to be a moderator anyway. This was more a question out of curiosity and since i didn't see another post on this.

EDIT: To demonstrate whether or not moderators can delete posts, moderators please delete this post (I wont mind).

Last edited by life_enjoyer (2013-09-12 04:57:34)


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#67 2013-09-12 05:03:51

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Re: How does one become a moderator, administrator, etc?

life_enjoyer wrote:
SilverOne wrote:

How to be a mod ? well, i don't know. But if all your threads turn out like this i'd say your chances are low maybe big_smile?

I really don't have the time to be a moderator anyway. This was more a question out of curiosity and since i didn't see another post on this.

EDIT: To demonstrate whether or not moderators can delete posts, moderators please delete this post (I wont mind).

I mean you as a "general user" but not you specifically big_smile

pffffffft. you should sticky it instead.

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#68 2013-09-12 05:33:05

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Re: How does one become a moderator, administrator, etc?

We can delete posts, but the process is laden with bureaucracy. First you have to find a sponsor on the mod team to support the deletion, after which you may submit a deletion request to the forum administrators, who then debate its merits in private for 3 days before voting on it. If the vote passes, it gets passed up to the core devs for final approval, in which case it receives 2 signatures if no one vetoes it. That can typically take anywhere from a day to a week.  The mod and the sponsor then receive a one-time code each. The mods must then coordinate code entry on the forum to ensure that they are both entered within a 30 second window, otherwise the codes will be invalidated.

This is why the dustbin keeps piling up. Deleting anything is such a major PITA that it just isn't worth it.

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#69 2013-09-12 06:19:54

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Re: How does one become a moderator, administrator, etc?

life_enjoyer wrote:

Can moderators delete posts? I have only ever seen posts moved or had their contents erased but never actually completely removed...

Yes, but we avoid it so multiple admins are able to review content and avoid anyone accidentally making the wrong call (we're all human).

EDIT: Didn't see Xyne's post. @Xyne, you must have gotten on the bad side of one of the admins and that's your punishment if that's your process tongue

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#70 2013-09-12 06:27:44

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Re: How does one become a moderator, administrator, etc?

Xyne wrote:

We can delete posts, but the process is laden with bureaucracy. First you have to find a sponsor on the mod team to support the deletion, after which you may submit a deletion request to the forum administrators, who then debate its merits in private for 3 days before voting on it. If the vote passes, it gets passed up to the core devs for final approval, in which case it receives 2 signatures if no one vetoes it. That can typically take anywhere from a day to a week.  The mod and the sponsor then receive a one-time code each. The mods must then coordinate code entry on the forum to ensure that they are both entered within a 30 second window, otherwise the codes will be invalidated.

This is why the dustbin keeps piling up. Deleting anything is such a major PITA that it just isn't worth it.

What, you mean they've simplified the process in the past few months? We used to have to have identical captchas for the mod and sponsor to fill in as well.


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#71 2013-09-12 06:41:32

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Re: How does one become a moderator, administrator, etc?

Trilby wrote:

But I suppose you get the point.

The English language is based on ambiguity, even its symbols are named like sports activities.

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#72 2013-09-12 07:39:48

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Re: How does one become a moderator, administrator, etc?

@life_enjoyer I can verify thet they do...and I have the same attitude ....I know on occasion I test the limits
   but so far very rarely ........they'd rather yell at me


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#73 2013-09-12 13:54:04

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Re: How does one become a moderator, administrator, etc?

ngoonee wrote:

What, you mean they've simplified the process in the past few months? We used to have to have identical captchas for the mod and sponsor to fill in as well.

Yes, it happened shortly after you left. We had to give up some of our powers in exchange. The admins were laughing and calling us "suckers". I don't know why.


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#74 2013-09-12 13:58:40

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Re: How does one become a moderator, administrator, etc?

Being a player is fun.

Being a referee is a job.


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#75 2013-09-12 14:17:08

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Re: How does one become a moderator, administrator, etc?

czubek wrote:

Being a player is fun.

Being a referee is a job.

That right there. Exactly how I've found it over on G+ (not on the Arch Community).

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