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#176 2014-10-19 13:54:14

linboruxis
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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

arojas wrote:
linboruxis wrote:

Hi, I installed kde 5 on fresh system (kf5, kf5-aids, plasma-next...did i miss something?) and now i can't configure custom shortcuts, after i create them and click save or apply they just disapper...Does anyone have experience like this?

Why do you mean by "custom shortcuts"? There are many different type of shortcuts in KDE: global shortcuts, application shortcuts, plasmoid shortcuts...

Application shortcuts, for example when I create shortcut for konsole it doesn't work...I find this http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.kde.bugs/921623, i got the same problem so i should probably wait for fix...

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#177 2014-10-19 17:35:43

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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

I've had some problems configuring Dolphin and other KDE4 apps under KF5/Plasma 5. Where can you configure what theme KDE4 apps will use? In the end I just copied the kdeglobals file from .config to .kde4/share/config/ and .kde/share/config . However, surely there is some automagic migration that should happen?

I've also had more minor weirdness with toolbars in both KDE4 and KF5 apps. I can't change the icon size as the only option is 'default'. Also I can't change toolbar icons as the option is greyed out.

Any ideas? I've already tried making a fresh user but the same problems happen.

Cheers,

P

Last edited by pepedopolous (2014-10-19 17:36:40)

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#178 2014-10-19 18:00:37

arojas
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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

pepedopolous wrote:

I've had some problems configuring Dolphin and other KDE4 apps under KF5/Plasma 5. Where can you configure what theme KDE4 apps will use? In the end I just copied the kdeglobals file from .config to .kde4/share/config/ and .kde/share/config . However, surely there is some automagic migration that should happen?

Yes, changing the theme or color scheme in Plasma5 should also change it for KDE4 apps (assuming that the theme is available). But in any case you can select it with qtconfig-qt4

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#179 2014-10-19 18:17:42

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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

A small annoyance that I have in KF5 plasma-desktop is that my panel (which I always put on the right side of the screen) can not auto-hide despite having that option in the settings. Anyone got a good solution?


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#180 2014-10-19 18:32:47

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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

W.F.Cody wrote:

A small annoyance that I have in KF5 plasma-desktop is that my panel (which I always put on the right side of the screen) can not auto-hide despite having that option in the settings. Anyone got a good solution?

Well I don't have much to offer, but I can at least tell you that mine is working just fine, so it has to be something with your setup, maybe you have some conflicting kde4 stuff ?

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#181 2014-10-19 21:50:17

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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

Any idea on how to disable that annoying (system) [bios] beep without

xset b off
xset b 0 0 0

on every plasma startup?

When I search for a text in my beloved firefox and the text is not found I get this annoying beep that normally only is used if something is terrible wrong with the motherboard or the like.

The above code disables it, but as it only happens in plasma 5 and not in gnome 3, it's something I'd rather disable in kde itself instead of disabling it system wide.

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#182 2014-10-19 22:24:33

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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

other programs (outside of kde, like chromium, q4wine, amule, etc)  with systemtray icons don't show their icons there. is normal?

greetings

Last edited by sl1pkn07 (2014-10-19 22:24:48)

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#183 2014-10-19 22:39:25

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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

sl1pkn07 wrote:

other programs (outside of kde, like chromium, q4wine, amule, etc)  with systemtray icons don't show their icons there. is normal?

greetings

I didn't realise chromium had a system tray icon... I know that deluge and transmission-gtk sometimes appear.


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#184 2014-10-19 22:51:34

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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

This explains in detail what's going on:

http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2 … asma-next/

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#185 2014-10-19 23:16:40

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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

oh. thanks for the info!

greetings

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#186 2014-10-19 23:25:54

TheLetterN
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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

pepedopolous wrote:

I've had some problems configuring Dolphin and other KDE4 apps under KF5/Plasma 5. Where can you configure what theme KDE4 apps will use? In the end I just copied the kdeglobals file from .config to .kde4/share/config/ and .kde/share/config . However, surely there is some automagic migration that should happen?

I've also had more minor weirdness with toolbars in both KDE4 and KF5 apps. I can't change the icon size as the only option is 'default'. Also I can't change toolbar icons as the option is greyed out.

Any ideas? I've already tried making a fresh user but the same problems happen.

Cheers,

P

Just like to chime in that this is what finally fixed my issues with KDE4 apps using the wrong color scheme. The kdeglobals file in .kde4 was the culprit, once I copied the color info from the .kde kdeglobals file into the .kde4 version, everything is using the proper color scheme now, yay!

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#187 2014-10-20 02:03:25

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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

Hi, I installed plasma-desktop from extra, with kf5 and kf5-aids, but I have several "Segmentation Faults" every time I run plasma o any other kde5 app like krunner or kinfocenter...From console I get:

$  krunner                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
KCrash: Application 'krunner' crashing...                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
KCrash: Attempting to start /usr/lib/libexec/drkonqi from kdeinit                                                                                                                                                                                                              
sock_file=/run/user/1000/kdeinit5__0                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
Warning: connect() failed: : Conexión rehusada                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
KCrash: Attempting to start /usr/lib/libexec/drkonqi directly                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
found lsb_release                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
Using /proc to determine executable path                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
Executable is: "/usr/bin/krunner"                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
Executable exists: true                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
Enabling drkonqi crash catching                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Invalid pixmap specified.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
No frame loaded                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
No frame loaded                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
No frame loaded                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
No frame loaded                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
No frame loaded                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
No frame loaded
$  kinfocenter                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
Trying to open ksycoca from "/home/mariano/.cache/ksycoca5"                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
QObject::connect: No such signal org::freedesktop::UPower::DeviceAdded(QString)                                                                                                                                                                                                
QObject::connect: No such signal org::freedesktop::UPower::DeviceRemoved(QString)                                                                                                                                                                                              
Shortcut for action  "search" "Buscar módulos" set with QAction::setShortcut()! Use KActionCollection::setDefaultShortcut(s) instead.                                                                                                                                          
KCrash: Application 'kinfocenter' crashing...                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
KCrash: Attempting to start /usr/lib/libexec/drkonqi from kdeinit                                                                                                                                                                                                              
sock_file=/run/user/1000/kdeinit5__0 

And with gdb

Starting program: /usr/bin/krunner                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
Got object file from memory but can't read symbols: File truncated.                                                                                                                                                                                                            
warning: Could not load shared library symbols for linux-vdso.so.1.                                                                                                                                                                                                            
Do you need "set solib-search-path" or "set sysroot"?                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
[Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
Using host libthread_db library "/usr/lib/libthread_db.so.1".                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
[New Thread 0x7fffe503e700 (LWP 29692)]                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
[New Thread 0x7fffdd014700 (LWP 29693)]                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
0x00007fffe6b90bd8 in ?? () from /usr/lib/qt/plugins/platforms/libqxcb.so  

The strange thing is that if I run as root, it works fine!, so I don't know whats happening....May be something with the permissions, but i don't know where to look.

I tried moving the config files from my /home and creating a new user, but in both cases it's the same result.

Hope you can help me! Thanks!

PD: Please excuse my poor English

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#188 2014-10-20 07:00:34

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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

Just throwing a few packages out there that I'm surprised depend on workspace:

  • apper

  • bluedevil

  • kdenetwork-kget

  • kdeutils-print-manager

And all the kcm AUR packages break, but that is expected. Now I haven't hacked on any of these, so I'm not sure what in workspace they depend on.

Last edited by zanny (2014-10-20 07:01:20)

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#189 2014-10-20 07:38:00

arojas
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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

zanny wrote:

apper

https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/42177

zanny wrote:

bluedevil

Use bluedevil-frameworks-git

zanny wrote:

kdenetwork-kget

It links to the workspace to be able to shut down when all downloads are finished. Use kdenetwork-kget-noworkspace

zanny wrote:

kdeutils-print-manager

I guess the KCM module could be used in Plasma5 with kcmshell4, but I don't see the advantage of opening a KDE4 kcm module outside systemsettings vs. just using the CUPS web interface. The plasmoid of course doesn't work in Plasma5

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#190 2014-10-20 07:54:58

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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

LucetLux wrote:
W.F.Cody wrote:

A small annoyance that I have in KF5 plasma-desktop is that my panel (which I always put on the right side of the screen) can not auto-hide despite having that option in the settings. Anyone got a good solution?

Well I don't have much to offer, but I can at least tell you that mine is working just fine, so it has to be something with your setup, maybe you have some conflicting kde4 stuff ?


Apparently auto hide of the panel works when it is at the bottom edge of the screen but not at the right edge.... strange!


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#191 2014-10-20 10:45:49

Humar
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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

I'll try it one more time:

In Firefox and other GTK apps (but especially Firefox), when I search the page and it fails to find what I was searching for, I get the annoying system-bios-bell.

I'd rather have a nice sound, like I have in Gnome 3. I know I can disable this in about:config, I can even disable beeping on the whole x-server. But I'd really love to have an audible sound when I mistyped/misspelled something or it couldn't find what I was looking for.

Any ideas?

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#192 2014-10-20 13:46:23

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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

Until legacy systray is solved, I use

trayer --edge bottom --widthtype request --align right --distance 30

Then it looks like this:
gRBZI70.png

Is there a good pulseaudio volume applet? I like especially one that allows to set the output "port" like "Speakers" v.s. "Headphones". veromix was my choice but the plasmoid obviously doesn't work right now.

edit: There are quite some frameworks git packages in the AUR. https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/?K=frameworks-git
Is there some repository that would provide nightly builds or so?

Last edited by haagch (2014-10-20 13:56:28)

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#193 2014-10-20 14:06:34

LucetLux
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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

W.F.Cody wrote:
LucetLux wrote:
W.F.Cody wrote:

A small annoyance that I have in KF5 plasma-desktop is that my panel (which I always put on the right side of the screen) can not auto-hide despite having that option in the settings. Anyone got a good solution?

Well I don't have much to offer, but I can at least tell you that mine is working just fine, so it has to be something with your setup, maybe you have some conflicting kde4 stuff ?


Apparently auto hide of the panel works when it is at the bottom edge of the screen but not at the right edge.... strange!

I tested it and for me it works in all edges, weird.

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#194 2014-10-20 14:19:43

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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

Humar wrote:

I'll try it one more time:

In Firefox and other GTK apps (but especially Firefox), when I search the page and it fails to find what I was searching for, I get the annoying system-bios-bell.

I'd rather have a nice sound, like I have in Gnome 3. I know I can disable this in about:config, I can even disable beeping on the whole x-server. But I'd really love to have an audible sound when I mistyped/misspelled something or it couldn't find what I was looking for.

Any ideas?

According to this (however it is quite old) :

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic … 7&t=182002

You can set 'accessibility.typeaheadfind.soundURL' in about:config to specify your own wav file.  I would think that this would force the sound to be played through the sound card.  On mine it is set to 'beep' and goes through the system bell.  I have no idea how to do it on all other apps.  You would think it would be a gtk config option of some sort perhaps?

Last edited by davidm (2014-10-20 14:22:03)

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#195 2014-10-20 14:29:19

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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

@haagch

thanks for the tray tip!! pity that either gtk instead of qt

greetings

Last edited by sl1pkn07 (2014-10-20 14:33:27)

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#196 2014-10-20 14:51:39

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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

There are other systray tools.

For example

community/stalonetray 0.8.1-3
    STAnd-aLONE sysTRAY. It has minimal build and run-time dependencies: the Xlib only.

It has a lot of options too, but I didn't really find out how to make it do what I want.

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#197 2014-10-21 12:40:33

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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

haagch wrote:

edit: There are quite some frameworks git packages in the AUR. https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/?K=frameworks-git
Is there some repository that would provide nightly builds or so?

I made one:

[frameworks-git]
Server = http://haagch.frickel.club/files/frameworks-git

64 bit only.
I Don't know how often I will update it.
I hope it doesn't create too much traffic.

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#198 2014-10-21 15:09:11

arojas
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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

haagch wrote:

I made one:

[frameworks-git]
Server = http://haagch.frickel.club/files/frameworks-git

Thanks. Note that there are some applications whose frameworks branch has already been merged in master, so they don't have the "frameworks" suffix anymore but still they are KF5 based: konsole, kate, gwenview

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#199 2014-10-21 15:56:04

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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

I see, but they require a lot of dependencies from git. I'll look later which packages can be added without compiling too much.
edit: Oh, why the hell not? It's adding some stuff to a text file and letting the cronjob do all the work.
Is there a tool that recursively lists all dependencies of an AUR package in the "right order"?

Last edited by haagch (2014-10-21 16:11:24)

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#200 2014-10-21 18:01:30

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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

MarianoC wrote:

Hi, I installed plasma-desktop from extra, with kf5 and kf5-aids, but I have several "Segmentation Faults" every time I run plasma o any other kde5 app like krunner or kinfocenter...From console I get:

$  krunner                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
KCrash: Application 'krunner' crashing...                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
KCrash: Attempting to start /usr/lib/libexec/drkonqi from kdeinit                                                                                                                                                                                                              
sock_file=/run/user/1000/kdeinit5__0                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
Warning: connect() failed: : Conexión rehusada                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
KCrash: Attempting to start /usr/lib/libexec/drkonqi directly                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
found lsb_release                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
Using /proc to determine executable path                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
Executable is: "/usr/bin/krunner"                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              
Executable exists: true                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
Enabling drkonqi crash catching                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
Invalid pixmap specified.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      
No frame loaded                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
No frame loaded                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
No frame loaded                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
No frame loaded                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
No frame loaded                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                
No frame loaded
$  kinfocenter                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
Trying to open ksycoca from "/home/mariano/.cache/ksycoca5"                                                                                                                                                                                                                    
QObject::connect: No such signal org::freedesktop::UPower::DeviceAdded(QString)                                                                                                                                                                                                
QObject::connect: No such signal org::freedesktop::UPower::DeviceRemoved(QString)                                                                                                                                                                                              
Shortcut for action  "search" "Buscar módulos" set with QAction::setShortcut()! Use KActionCollection::setDefaultShortcut(s) instead.                                                                                                                                          
KCrash: Application 'kinfocenter' crashing...                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
KCrash: Attempting to start /usr/lib/libexec/drkonqi from kdeinit                                                                                                                                                                                                              
sock_file=/run/user/1000/kdeinit5__0 

And with gdb

Starting program: /usr/bin/krunner                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
Got object file from memory but can't read symbols: File truncated.                                                                                                                                                                                                            
warning: Could not load shared library symbols for linux-vdso.so.1.                                                                                                                                                                                                            
Do you need "set solib-search-path" or "set sysroot"?                                                                                                                                                                                                                          
[Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
Using host libthread_db library "/usr/lib/libthread_db.so.1".                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
[New Thread 0x7fffe503e700 (LWP 29692)]                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
[New Thread 0x7fffdd014700 (LWP 29693)]                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
0x00007fffe6b90bd8 in ?? () from /usr/lib/qt/plugins/platforms/libqxcb.so  

The strange thing is that if I run as root, it works fine!, so I don't know whats happening....May be something with the permissions, but i don't know where to look.

I tried moving the config files from my /home and creating a new user, but in both cases it's the same result.

Hope you can help me! Thanks!

PD: Please excuse my poor English


try deleting ~/.cache/ksycoca5 and ~/.cache/ksycoca5stamp then relogin.

EDIT2: Sorry problem not fixed

Last edited by toneddu (2014-10-21 18:25:41)

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