KF 5 & Plasma

Scimmia · 2014-12-21 21:04:09

SolarAquarion wrote:

arojas wrote:
SolarAquarion wrote:
having trouble building plasma-desktop from git http://pastebin.com/tYTGKyau
Remove packagekit-qt or build in a clean chroot
It's a cmake dependency as I know from the people of #plasma.

What is? packagekit-qt? 'fraid not unless something drastic has changed recently.

Last edited by Scimmia (2014-12-21 21:06:04)

Loose_Control · 2014-12-21 22:59:57

reading would help sometimes...

"The following OPTIONAL packages have been found:

* Qt5Core
* PackageKitQt5 (required version >= 0.9)"

Llke arojas wrote the simple fix would be to remove Packagekit or disable it for the build...
or fix the problem since "/include/packagekitqt5/PackageKit/" really doesn't exist because it should be "/include/PackageKit/packagekitqt5/"

SolarAquarion · 2014-12-22 00:15:04

Loose_Control wrote:

reading would help sometimes...
"The following OPTIONAL packages have been found:
* Qt5Core
* PackageKitQt5 (required version >= 0.9)"
Llke arojas wrote the simple fix would be to remove Packagekit or disable it for the build...
or fix the problem since "/include/packagekitqt5/PackageKit/" really doesn't exist because it should be "/include/PackageKit/packagekitqt5/"

How would i do that?

2handband · 2014-12-23 04:23:40

For the love of god has anyone discovered a weather plasmoid that doesn' depend on kde-workspaces??

snack · 2014-12-25 23:03:31

I've been successful in restoring the skype tray icon in a x86_64 system. It required to compile a patched lib32-qt4, create a couple of lib32 which did not exist even in AUR (lib32-qjson and lib32-libdbusmenu-qt), apply some quirks (i.e. install the headers of lib32-qt4 which are different from the 64 bit headers in order to obtain full 32 bit Qt plugins) and then create lib32-sni-qt. Here is a tarball with the binaries and the PKGBUILDS and patches:

https://www.hightail.com/download/UlRTT … SlE4RmNUQw

The release numbers are a bit arbitrary. During the process I also found a small bug in the lib32-qt4 PKGBUILD that I used as the base for my patched version:

https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/43223

I hope this helps to solve this issue. Since I'm not an expert packager the PKGBUILDs have surely many ill-formed paths, so I apologize in advance. I'd be glad if any AUR user or Trusted User would adopt them.

mangus · 2014-12-26 18:15:45

snack wrote:

I've been successful in restoring the skype tray icon in a x86_64 system. It required to compile a patched lib32-qt4, create a couple of lib32 which did not exist even in AUR (lib32-qjson and lib32-libdbusmenu-qt), apply some quirks (i.e. install the headers of lib32-qt4 which are different from the 64 bit headers in order to obtain full 32 bit Qt plugins) and then create lib32-sni-qt. Here is a tarball with the binaries and the PKGBUILDS and patches:
https://www.hightail.com/download/UlRTT … SlE4RmNUQw
The release numbers are a bit arbitrary. During the process I also found a small bug in the lib32-qt4 PKGBUILD that I used as the base for my patched version:
https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/43223
I hope this helps to solve this issue. Since I'm not an expert packager the PKGBUILDs have surely many ill-formed paths, so I apologize in advance. I'd be glad if any AUR user or Trusted User would adopt them.

It works thanks. you'll need lib32-gstreamer from aur for these packages to work

snack · 2014-12-26 18:45:30

mangus wrote:

It works thanks. you'll need lib32-gstreamer from aur for these packages to work

Actually, it is possible to build everything without lib32-gstreamer, see the link to the bug report in my previous post.

neubauten84 · 2014-12-27 14:02:28

Does anyone know how to try a kf5-wayland session??

Loose_Control · 2014-12-27 14:36:24

the only thing i remember about starting a wayland session with plasma is here:

http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2 … n-wayland/

neubauten84 · 2014-12-27 17:09:07

I really hope that's not the last chance..

snack · 2014-12-29 13:46:49

Is there a way to make (at least some) KDE4 plasmoids work in Plasma 5? This is the last thing keeping me from switching to KF5&Plasma5. I really appreciate Lancelot and ComplexPlotter and I don't want to miss their fuinctionalities.

pb · 2014-12-30 11:01:43

snack wrote:

Is there a way to make (at least some) KDE4 plasmoids work in Plasma 5?

No. Only plasmoids build against KF5 and QtQuick 2 (if I remember) works in Plasma 5. For now on we have only a few plasmoids like this.

snack · 2014-12-30 11:10:23

pb wrote:

snack wrote:
Is there a way to make (at least some) KDE4 plasmoids work in Plasma 5?
No. Only plasmoids build against KF5 and QtQuick 2 (if I remember) works in Plasma 5. For now on we have only a few plasmoids like this.

Thanks, and what about plasmoids written in python using the old kdebindings?

pb · 2014-12-30 12:06:44

snack wrote:

Thanks, and what about plasmoids written in python using the old kdebindings?

I've tried a few and they didn't works, too. I read somewhere, that all or almost all plasmoids should be ported to new Plasma 5. Now, (I'm Plasma 5 user), I have got only 4 plasmoids in GHNS

andre.vmatos · 2015-01-02 03:15:37

Hi, @arojas
I'm maintainer of a brazillian tier1 Arch mirror, 1Gbps link, and I would like to host a mirror of plasma5-git and kde kf5 apps git, if you have interest in providing these packages. Your work is awesome, but is a little bit hard to walk through aur dependency tree of plasma5-git and recompile in the right order every git package needed by a up-to-date plasma5 git installation. Providing these packages in a mirror, installable with testing repo enabled (without external aur deps), would be awesome for those wanting to install, test and keep an updated git installation.
Regards,

arojas · 2015-01-02 09:10:47

andre.vmatos wrote:

Hi, @arojas
I'm maintainer of a brazillian tier1 Arch mirror, 1Gbps link, and I would like to host a mirror of plasma5-git and kde kf5 apps git, if you have interest in providing these packages. Your work is awesome, but is a little bit hard to walk through aur dependency tree of plasma5-git and recompile in the right order every git package needed by a up-to-date plasma5 git installation. Providing these packages in a mirror, installable with testing repo enabled (without external aur deps), would be awesome for those wanting to install, test and keep an updated git installation.
Regards,

Providing precompiled git packages is a lot of work, you need to recompile at least once a week to keep them reasonably up to date. It would be great if someone did it, but I don't have time for this myself.

andre.vmatos · 2015-01-02 11:47:52

arojas wrote:

Providing precompiled git packages is a lot of work, you need to recompile at least once a week to keep them reasonably up to date. It would be great if someone did it, but I don't have time for this myself.

If you could maintain/provide in some url a list in order of git packages needed from AUR, I could try to setup a script for recompiling periodically these packages and providing them in a mirror.

2handband · 2015-01-02 23:23:59

I just installed plasma5-git on a spare machine. I then installed konqueror-frameworks-git. Funny thing: I don't seem to have Konqueror installed. It's not in the menu, and when I try to open a directory it asks me what I want to open it with instead of defaulting to Konqueror or Dolphin. Anyone know what's up?

duder2 · 2015-01-09 16:24:47

I would help to maintain/test with anyone like andre who has the tech chops to design a repo with KF5 only apps like kde-baseapps-git, konsole-git, etc.

If they start out by arojas or whoever is Arch's KDE 5 TU pulling KDE tarballs and creating -git pkgs then a few of us could maintain a repo or even a script to build a basic list every week or 2. As nice as the kf5-kf5-aids-plasma-next install is....it's crippled without some basic pure plasma-next apps.

I have no interest in old kde4 anything personally.

sh4nks · 2015-01-09 16:46:18

plasma-next is quite stable for me but I have 3 issues that I don't know how to solve.

1. How to get rid of the white borders here? (like shown in the first screenshot, same thing is with sublime text too..)

2. How do I remove the emails from the application menu?

3. How do I show the desktop icons (without the need of adding a widget..) like "Home", "Chrome"..?

Thanks for your help!

Last edited by sh4nks (2015-01-09 16:51:11)

arojas · 2015-01-09 18:39:42

sh4nks wrote:

3. How do I show the desktop icons (without the need of adding a widget..) like "Home", "Chrome"..?

The same way as in KDE4: set your desktop background type as "Folder" instead of "Desktop"

prokonsole · 2015-01-10 01:28:50

Trying out plasma environment.
Got a problem or two.

Steps taken before change
install sddm - successful install able to shutdown login reboot blah blah
drop to terminal at login screen - (ctrl)+alt+F2
sign in as root

#pacman -Rnsc kdebase-workspace

#pacman -S plasma-next kf5 kf5-aids

install completed successfully with no errors.

Reboot to login screen and choose plasma session; login successful.

I've seen the plasma desktop before so I am reasonably comfortable with it.

However, something bizarre has happened - I do not appear to have many of the basic KDE aplications - no Dolphin, no Konqueror, no Konsole to name but a few.

What on earth could have happened?

Did my method of removing kdebase-workspace deprive me of a full install of KDE Applications?
If so can it be remedied easily?

Perhaps I could reverse the process; back to the terminal and remove things in order and then add kdebase-workspace and then and then start all over again.

I think I'm answering my own question here but I'm always open to advice if anyone feels like chipping in,

Thanks,

Hugh

helix · 2015-01-10 01:34:01

You have done nothing wrong, it's just that these applications are not yet ready, I use kf5 and dolphin, konsole, kwrite and gwenview from KDE 4.

Last edited by helix (2015-01-10 01:34:44)

arojas · 2015-01-10 01:36:13

prokonsole wrote:

#pacman -Rnsc kdebase-workspace

The "s" is your problem. You should have done pacman -Rnc

prokonsole · 2015-01-10 01:59:03

arojas wrote:

prokonsole wrote:
#pacman -Rnsc kdebase-workspace
The "s" is your problem. You should have done pacman -Rnc

OK thanks for the correction.

Can I do this then?

#pacman -Rnc plasma-next kf5 kf5-aids

then

#pacman -S kdebase-workspace

to put everything back the way it was and start over?
Hugh

Arch Linux

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