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#1276 2015-09-02 03:30:49

toxygen
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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

spoke too soon i guess, kwin started going back to it's 50+% cpu usage out of the blue.  cleared .local/.config/.cache, cleared anything about sessions in /tmp and ~, nothing.  back to lxde while I try again.


"I know what you're thinking, 'cause right now I'm thinking the same thing. Actually, I've been thinking it ever since I got here:
Why oh why didn't I take the BLUE pill?"

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#1277 2015-09-02 07:18:11

Ekaradon
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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

I have a new little problem following updates, see below:
snapshot139.jpg
Polkit is asking everytime I boot for my root password. Is anyone also facing this issue? An idea why?

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#1278 2015-09-02 07:23:54

arojas
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Registered: 2011-10-09
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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

Ekaradon wrote:

Polkit is asking everytime I boot for my root password. Is anyone also facing this issue? An idea why?

That's Baloo trying to raise the inotify limit. You're indexing more folders than your current limit allows.

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#1279 2015-09-02 07:27:13

Xabre
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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

No, you're not alone.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/KD … atch_limit

edit: arojas is quicker as usual.

Last edited by Xabre (2015-09-02 07:30:52)

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#1280 2015-09-02 07:49:48

aqeeliz
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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

I updated framework and plasma to latest updates but can't figure out how to view the new plasma dashboard? (or even old plasma dashboard)

I have tried setting 'Show the dashboard' in Pager's "Selecting current desktop" setting' and also setting it on Window edge thingy, but no luck. I guess I am missing some package, any ideas on which one?

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#1281 2015-09-02 08:10:24

Xabre
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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

By "new" dashboard, I presume you mean new dashboard-like menu. Select it as an alternative to standard menu.
menu.jpg

The "old" dasboard is still on Ctrl+F12 by default.

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#1282 2015-09-02 08:13:37

Ekaradon
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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

Thank you @Xabre & @arojas, you are awesome!

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#1283 2015-09-02 08:14:53

aqeeliz
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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

Xabre wrote:

By "new" dashboard, I presume you mean new dashboard-like menu. Select it as an alternative to standard menu.
http://www.dodaj.rs/t/M/4V/u6Vxohe/menu.jpg

The "old" dasboard is still on Ctrl+F12 by default.

Ah, thanks. They mentioned this as ' dashboard' in the blog posts that I read, so I assumed it was replacing the old one, found it now.

The old one is still not working from pager, but I don't use it anyway so will figure that out later.

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#1284 2015-09-02 09:05:55

nierro
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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

How can i remove previously indexed files?
I had baloo indexing every folder, but then i realized i could ignore steam folders. So i added the steam folder to baloo blacklist; but in dolphin "videos" and "audio files" i can still see e.g. dota2 files.

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#1285 2015-09-02 12:02:33

tabsterleir
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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

nierro wrote:

Final and better solution for wrong cursor theme on plasma background: create ~/.icons/default/index.theme with inside:

[Icon Theme]
Inherits=breeze_cursors

Then issue a

ln -s /usr/share/icons/breeze_cursors/cursors ~/.icons/default/cursors

Previous workaround worked but /usr/share/icons/default/index.theme may be overwritten when libxcursor get updated.

EDIT: i've added a note to the plasma wiki page wink

I'm also pleased to report that this fixed an inconsistency for me in Plasma 5.4. Certain applications would change from the Breeze cursor theme to Adwaita when you hovered over the title bar of the window. I applied the fix above and the result was instantaneous, I didn't even need to reboot.


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#1286 2015-09-02 12:03:28

toxygen
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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

turning off compositing has vastly improved kwin performance for me on old nvida 340xx but that's a sucky solution

[edit]
ok i looked more into the compositing issue, and it turned out i had a conflict with nvidia driver 304/340xx in one of the packages.  i removed/reinstalled only the 340xx packages and voila! no more issues with kwin/plasma other than slight hiccups now and then. so far so good on compositing too.

i also managed to change the network monitor rate to 0.5s by rebuilding plasma-workspace
file changed:
plasma-workspace/src/plasma-workspace-5.4.0/applets/systemmonitor/common/contents/ui/Applet.qml

line 84 changed interval to 500 (ms)

sadly this affects cpu/ram/network and not just network but i can live with it. they really should make it an option on the panel considering it's just one variable.

but kde/plasma5 is working good [for now] so i'm happy

Last edited by toxygen (2015-09-02 14:23:34)


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Why oh why didn't I take the BLUE pill?"

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#1287 2015-09-02 15:16:51

arojas
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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

toxygen wrote:

i also managed to change the network monitor rate to 0.5s by rebuilding plasma-workspace
file changed:
plasma-workspace/src/plasma-workspace-5.4.0/applets/systemmonitor/common/contents/ui/Applet.qml

QML is JavaScript. There's no need to rebuild, you can just edit the installed file.

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#1288 2015-09-02 16:04:23

toxygen
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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

^^ good to know
well i can now set each monitor at different refresh rate big_smile

Last edited by toxygen (2015-09-02 16:18:24)


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Why oh why didn't I take the BLUE pill?"

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#1289 2015-09-03 12:53:21

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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

What is the solution for the wayland crash after started "startplasmacompositor"?

I have found the OOM solution in AUR, but now I cannot find it. Could someone link it here?
thanks.

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#1290 2015-09-03 13:18:42

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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

WTF ??? The "Folder view" plasmoid tries to open folders with Gwenview instead of Dolphin ??

Edit : OK, it was a bad configuration. Which is weird because I did not change it...

Last edited by Tromzy (2015-09-03 13:19:47)

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#1291 2015-09-03 13:41:09

arojas
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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

miku84 wrote:

What is the solution for the wayland crash after started "startplasmacompositor"?

I have found the OOM solution in AUR, but now I cannot find it. Could someone link it here?
thanks.

https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/kinit-nooom/

Would be great if somebody added the info to the wiki

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#1292 2015-09-03 15:06:53

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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

Tromzy wrote:

WTF ??? The "Folder view" plasmoid tries to open folders with Gwenview instead of Dolphin ??

Edit : OK, it was a bad configuration. Which is weird because I did not change it...

This seems to happen when dolphin is upgraded from the kde4 to kf5 version - it appears as a different program for the system, so because dolphin4 is removed, it is removed as the default association for opening folders. So the next program on the list ends up being default. For me it was Filelight. And dolphin5 is added to the end of the list, just like any new program that has an association with a file format.

Rather silly, but I don't think there is a better way to do it.


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#1293 2015-09-03 18:50:12

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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

A quick question. As I am looking to use more and more activities, I would like to know whether it is possible to set differents favorites for the dashboard launcher according to activities?
For example, when I am at home, I would like to be able to launch Steam, Spotify, ... And when on work IntelliJIDEA, and so on.

Also, is it possible to "pause" some applications depending on activities? For example, I would like to stop KTorrent when on "light bandwith activity" and on the contrary to resume Skype when at home.

Last edited by Ekaradon (2015-09-03 18:55:39)

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#1294 2015-09-04 00:10:08

toxygen
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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

do i need to do anything special to have usb/external disks mount with rw user privileges? in kde4 it worked out of the box, and yesterday I had to manually mount a drive for it to work


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Why oh why didn't I take the BLUE pill?"

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#1295 2015-09-04 05:47:19

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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

nierro wrote:

How can i remove previously indexed files?
I had baloo indexing every folder, but then i realized i could ignore steam folders. So i added the steam folder to baloo blacklist; but in dolphin "videos" and "audio files" i can still see e.g. dota2 files.

IMO it's impossible with new Baloo. Old one has baloo_file_cleaner but there isn't such utility now. I cannot find third party solution, too.

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#1296 2015-09-04 16:43:22

V1del
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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

@toxygen works fine here, kf5 group, particularly solid, installed? any error messages?

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#1297 2015-09-04 17:17:30

ChemBro
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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

Plasmashell is using 80% of one of my cores in "idle". Little bit crazy. Could someone tell me, if this is a bug or could someone help me to reduce the CPU usage?

Edit: Also Plasma takes like 100 years to shutdown since 5.4. (Though I don't care that much about that. The CPU issue is more important.)

Last edited by ChemBro (2015-09-04 17:23:56)

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#1298 2015-09-04 17:23:11

toxygen
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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

V1del wrote:

@toxygen works fine here, kf5 group, particularly solid, installed? any error messages?

I managed to get it working (mostly) by reinstalling polkit, for some reason i cant create folders directly on an external drive with dolphin though (no option when right click -> new).  Moving folders to the drive, deleting and copying files works however.


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Why oh why didn't I take the BLUE pill?"

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#1299 2015-09-04 17:53:04

Soukyuu
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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

ChemBro wrote:

Also Plasma takes like 100 years to shutdown since 5.4.

It takes about as long as 5.3 for me, with the difference that 5.3 crashed, reloaded, then logged out. 5.4 just sits there doing nothing on a black screen.


[ Arch x86_64 | linux | Framework 13 | AMD Ryzen™ 5 7640U | 32GB RAM | KDE Plasma Wayland ]

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#1300 2015-09-06 04:10:00

toxygen
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Re: KF 5 & Plasma

new day, new issue
i dont have the "create new -> folder|file|etc" in dolphin service menu
one thread said "this has been asked multiple times please search" and pointed to
this as a solution. however

Workarounds:
- Install libkonq-frameworks-git
- Install kdebase-lib, and run 'sudo ln -s /usr/share/kde4/servicetypes/konqpopupmenuplugin.desktop /usr/share/kservicetypes5/'

1. libkonq-frameworks-git wont install on vanilla kde withouth having to pull dolphin-git and then baloo-git and i might as well run kde-unstable or kde-testing at that point no? (should i be running either one of those two instead?)
2. kdebase-lib is installed, and the link they ask to create would overwrite an already existing konqpopupmenuplugin.desktop file :
/usr/share/kservicetypes5/konqpopupmenuplugin.desktop is owned by dolphin 15.08.0-2
3. the "please search" found nothing but the above post

so what now?


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Why oh why didn't I take the BLUE pill?"

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