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#26 2020-10-28 09:31:26

V1del
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Re: [Not Solved] SDDM does not start on newly installed arch on a computer

Closing, by request.

Reopening on request, more generally there's not much reason to explicitly ask us for closing, get back to it if you feel you have something new to add if it isn't solved yet.

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#27 2020-12-26 19:57:00

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Re: [Not Solved] SDDM does not start on newly installed arch on a computer

V1del wrote:

Closing, by request.

Reopening on request, more generally there's not much reason to explicitly ask us for closing, get back to it if you feel you have something new to add if it isn't solved yet.

Ok thanks for the advice.

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#28 2020-12-26 20:03:22

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Re: [Not Solved] SDDM does not start on newly installed arch on a computer

Ok anyway after some time I decided to try again to reinstall a graphical environment on this device, at first I tried kde but anyway then I thought that having such an old video card can't handle kde well so I thought about installing xfce4.
With xfce4 and changing to lightdm I have not had a lot of luck, when I try to start it no longer crashes on "/dev/sda ..." but the message "[FAILED] Failed to start Light Display Manager. appears and I have to press control + alt + f2, it asks me for username and password but in the command line without graphics. I tried to manually start the xfce4 desktop environment from the command line and it works and goes to the desktop but it is full of graphical glitches and I still can't start it from lightdm. And most importantly, some time ago I couldn't get xorg logs by booting with sddm but by starting xfce4 manually the xorg logs are there, from this I can understand that lightdm and sddm have problems booting on my device.

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#29 2020-12-26 20:23:43

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Re: [Not Solved] SDDM does not start on newly installed arch on a computer

As far as I know this graphics controller is simply not sufficient for a lot of stuff and I'm pretty sure both lightdm and sddm want to use some form of OpenGL that's not likely to be present.

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#30 2020-12-26 20:26:51

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Re: [Not Solved] SDDM does not start on newly installed arch on a computer

V1del wrote:

As far as I know this graphics controller is simply not sufficient for a lot of stuff and I'm pretty sure both lightdm and sddm want to use some form of OpenGL that's not likely to be present.

This video card is certainly very old, as you can see, however, on other distros when I install I do not find graphics problems, even with android x86, I have not yet understood how it is possible.

P.S:Collected logs with journalctl -u lightdm > lightdmlogs.log : https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/HF2Nz2bZdH/

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#31 2020-12-26 21:34:51

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Re: [Not Solved] SDDM does not start on newly installed arch on a computer

heebo wrote:
latalante1 wrote:

Requires an additional patch.
https://github.com/rasdark/xf86-video-s … 7e5ac544b2
I suggest you download from here.

git clone https://github.com/rasdark/xf86-video-sis671/
cd xf86-video-sis671
./configure --prefix=/usr --disable-static
make
sudo make install

Most of this equipment is low-budget laptops from 2006-2007. Just like those based on VIA Chrome, mostly with 32-bit processors (pentium-m, yonah), few with Core 2 (64-bit).

THANK YOU!! I got it working with this ! It is still very slow, but resolution got upto 1280x800 ! smile

System:    Host: arcolaptop Kernel: 5.3.12-arch1-1 x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: Xfce 4.14.1 Distro: Arch Linux 
Machine:   Type: Laptop System: Packard Bell BV product: EasyNote_MX37-W-702NCD v: PC10ED0091 serial: <root required> 
           Mobo: PACKARD BELL BV model: T12C v: 1.0 serial: <root required> BIOS: American Megatrends v: 218 date: 04/25/2008 
Battery:   ID-1: BAT0 charge: 22.9 Wh condition: 22.9/47.3 Wh (48%) 
CPU:       Topology: Dual Core model: Intel T1400 bits: 64 type: MCP L2 cache: 512 KiB 
           Speed: 1733 MHz min/max: N/A Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1733 2: 1733 
Graphics:  Device-1: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 771/671 PCIE VGA Display Adapter driver: N/A 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.5 driver: none resolution: 1280x800~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 9.0 128 bits) v: 3.3 Mesa 19.2.4 
Audio:     Device-1: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] Azalia Audio driver: snd_hda_intel 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.3.12-arch1-1 
Network:   Device-1: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 191 Gigabit Ethernet Adapter driver: sis190 
           IF: enp0s4 state: down mac: xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx 
           Device-2: Qualcomm Atheros AR242x / AR542x Wireless Network Adapter driver: ath5k 
           IF: wlp2s0 state: up mac: xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 149.05 GiB used: 11.23 GiB (7.5%) 
           ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Seagate model: ST9160821AS size: 149.05 GiB 
Partition: ID-1: / size: 141.77 GiB used: 11.23 GiB (7.9%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1 
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 4.00 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda2 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 61.0 C mobo: N/A 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Info:      Processes: 152 Uptime: 44m Memory: 1.82 GiB used: 659.5 MiB (35.4%) Shell: bash inxi: 3.0.36

or compromise with xf86-video-vesa

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#32 2020-12-26 21:43:01

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Re: [Not Solved] SDDM does not start on newly installed arch on a computer

Ok I found that the problem is the missing greeter, now I managed to start LightDM and xfce without problems the problem is that now it is full of graphic bugs and I have no idea how to fix
P.S: Looking in the settings there is a very low resolution and 0.0 Hz refresh rate

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#33 2020-12-26 22:50:01

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Re: [Not Solved] SDDM does not start on newly installed arch on a computer

XRed_CubeX wrote:

Ok I found that the problem is the missing greeter, now I managed to start LightDM and xfce without problems the problem is that now it is full of graphic bugs and I have no idea how to fix

If you disable acceleration are the issues still present?  What if you switch to the vesa driver?

XRed_Cube wrote:

XP.S: Looking in the settings there is a very low resolution and 0.0 Hz refresh rate

Those values seem unlikely to be correct,  do they agree with those from Xorg.0.log?

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#34 2020-12-26 23:01:20

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Re: [Not Solved] SDDM does not start on newly installed arch on a computer

loqs wrote:
XRed_CubeX wrote:

Ok I found that the problem is the missing greeter, now I managed to start LightDM and xfce without problems the problem is that now it is full of graphic bugs and I have no idea how to fix

If you disable acceleration are the issues still present?  What if you switch to the vesa driver?

XRed_Cube wrote:

XP.S: Looking in the settings there is a very low resolution and 0.0 Hz refresh rate

Those values seem unlikely to be correct,  do they agree with those from Xorg.0.log?

I don't know how to disable acceleration, however I'm using vesa drivers.
The resolution is very low and few coincide with the logs, most of the resolutions, even high ones, are in the logs but not in the settings in the screen.

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#35 2020-12-26 23:34:15

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Re: [Not Solved] SDDM does not start on newly installed arch on a computer

I missed you were now using the vesa driver,  so there is no acceleration to disable.
What if you set the monitor resolution using Xorg#Manual_configuration?

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#36 2020-12-27 08:11:45

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Re: [Not Solved] SDDM does not start on newly installed arch on a computer

Please post an updated xorg log and maybe a link to a screenshot of the "graphic bugs" to get us an idea where you're at.

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#37 2020-12-27 13:27:27

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Re: [Not Solved] SDDM does not start on newly installed arch on a computer

seth wrote:

Please post an updated xorg log and maybe a link to a screenshot of the "graphic bugs" to get us an idea where you're at.

Xorg logs: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/njWsfymszn/
Graphical bugs: https://imgur.com/a/IjuEgCB

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#38 2020-12-27 13:39:55

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Re: [Not Solved] SDDM does not start on newly installed arch on a computer

loqs wrote:

I missed you were now using the vesa driver,  so there is no acceleration to disable.
What if you set the monitor resolution using Xorg#Manual_configuration?

Now only a blinking underscore appears

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#39 2020-12-27 14:07:26

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Re: [Not Solved] SDDM does not start on newly installed arch on a computer

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Li … TTY_output

Disable the xfwm compositor and post the output of "xrandr -q"
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xf … te_manager

Please don't use ubuntu's pastebin, it's horrible and requires an account to get the raw text.

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#40 2020-12-27 15:03:22

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Re: [Not Solved] SDDM does not start on newly installed arch on a computer

seth wrote:

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Li … TTY_output

Disable the xfwm compositor and post the output of "xrandr -q"
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xf … te_manager

Please don't use ubuntu's pastebin, it's horrible and requires an account to get the raw text.

https://hastebin.com/hikahebabo.apache

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#41 2020-12-27 15:15:38

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Re: [Not Solved] SDDM does not start on newly installed arch on a computer

Looks like some VGA to XGA default modes for the vesa driver (because you're not getting an EDID)
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xr … esolutions

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#42 2020-12-27 16:21:16

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Re: [Not Solved] SDDM does not start on newly installed arch on a computer

seth wrote:

Looks like some VGA to XGA default modes for the vesa driver (because you're not getting an EDID)
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xr … esolutions

Trying to do those commands, xrandr gives me an error that it cannot find the gamma size

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#43 2020-12-27 16:31:49

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Re: [Not Solved] SDDM does not start on newly installed arch on a computer

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#44 2020-12-27 17:16:26

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Re: [Not Solved] SDDM does not start on newly installed arch on a computer

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#45 2020-12-27 21:03:16

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Re: [Not Solved] SDDM does not start on newly installed arch on a computer

Are yo usure about the 64Hz? That's pretty non-standard.

Anyway, check the output of "xrandr -q", the mode was likely created and you can now --addmode it.
The message is not fatal.

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