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#2276 2021-09-15 15:44:57

apophysis
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Registered: 2021-09-12
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Re: Laptops which run Arch

                   -`                    
                  .o+`                   --------------- 
                 `ooo/                   OS: Arch Linux x86_64 
                `+oooo:                  Host: Gazelle gaze15 
               `+oooooo:                 Kernel: 5.14.3-arch1-1 
               -+oooooo+:                Uptime: 2 hours, 29 mins 
             `/:-:++oooo+:               Packages: 1269 (pacman) 
            `/++++/+++++++:              Shell: bash 5.1.8 
           `/++++++++++++++:             Resolution: 1920x1080 
          `/+++ooooooooooooo/`           DE: Plasma 5.22.5 
         ./ooosssso++osssssso+`          WM: kwin 
        .oossssso-````/ossssss+`         Theme: Breeze Dark [Plasma], Breeze [GTK2/3] 
       -osssssso.      :ssssssso.        Icons: [Plasma], breeze-dark [GTK2/3] 
      :osssssss/        osssso+++.       Terminal: konsole 
     /ossssssss/        +ssssooo/-       CPU: Intel i7-10750H (12) @ 5.000GHz 
   `/ossssso+/:-        -:/+osssso+-     GPU: NVIDIA 01:00.0 NVIDIA Corporation TU117M 
  `+sso+:-`                 `.-/+oso:    GPU: Intel CometLake-H GT2 [UHD Graphics] 
 `++:.                           `-/+/   Memory: 1523MiB / 15699MiB 
 .`                                 `/
                                                                 
                                                                 

system76 Gazelle.  Out of the box fresh arch install had most things working and a functional laptop.  But after some research on the wiki everything is fixed and working perfectly.  It works both undocked and docked though a usb displaylink device with dual monitors.

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#2277 2021-09-25 13:23:30

cowpoon
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Re: Laptops which run Arch

Made an account just for this.

Running Arch Linux on a Lenovo Ideapad 320-14ISK.
Processor is a 6th gen, 2 Ghz Intel Core i3. I forgot if it has 4 cores or 4 threads.
Everything runs fine, no problems at all. It's been 2 months. Thanks Arch devs.

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#2278 2021-09-25 21:48:53

leonavis
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From: Bremen, Germany
Registered: 2021-06-27
Posts: 36

Re: Laptops which run Arch

hp 14-cm0301ng

 ~  neofetch
                   -`                    
                  .o+`                   --------------------
                 `ooo/                   OS: Arch Linux x86_64
                `+oooo:                  Host: HP Laptop 14-cm0xxx
               `+oooooo:                 Kernel: 5.10.68-1-lts
               -+oooooo+:                Uptime: 2 mins
             `/:-:++oooo+:               Packages: 1114 (pacman)
            `/++++/+++++++:              Shell: zsh 5.8
           `/++++++++++++++:             Resolution: 1920x1080
          `/+++ooooooooooooo/`           DE: Plasma 5.22.5
         ./ooosssso++osssssso+`          WM: KWin
        .oossssso-````/ossssss+`         Theme: Breeze Dark [Plasma], Breeze [GTK2/3]
       -osssssso.      :ssssssso.        Icons: BeautyLine [Plasma], BeautyLine [GTK2/3]
      :osssssss/        osssso+++.       Terminal: konsole
     /ossssssss/        +ssssooo/-       CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2500U with Radeon Vega Mobile Gfx (8) @ 2.000GHz
   `/ossssso+/:-        -:/+osssso+-     GPU: AMD ATI Radeon Vega Series / Radeon Vega Mobile Series
  `+sso+:-`                 `.-/+oso:    Memory: 611MiB / 6965MiB
 `++:.                           `-/+/

Linux-Zen doesn't work properly (glitches), Linux makes problems with the realtek Wlan&bluetooth, but only sometimes after reboots.
Linux-LTS works fine.

Edit: Alright the problem also occured with the LTS-kernel (Wifi not working), seems to work now with rtl8723de-dkms-git from AUR, but I wouldn't guarantee it.

Edit again: Didn't have any problems with WLAN since installing the dkms from AUR, so that seems to work.

And one more Edit: After having issues constantly with that shitty RTL-device I told a friend, who has a passion for repairing broken Laptops, about it. He gave me an Intel-WLAN/BT-device which I installed and is 100% Linux-supported. No more issues on that laptop and Wifi5, so I finally get to update fast and have no connection breaks. Hooray!

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#2279 2021-09-30 17:25:14

zer0h0ur
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Registered: 2021-08-22
Posts: 1

Re: Laptops which run Arch

XPS 13  9300 Only issue is the fingerprint reader is buggy for me. Others with this model do not seem to have the problems. I chalk it up to a hardware issue on my machine. Does not hinder the day to day though.

OS: ArcoLinux
Kernel: 5.14.8-arch1-1
Uptime: 1 day, 2 hours, 13 mins
Packages: 1152 (pacman), 14 (flatpak)
Shell: bash 5.1.8
Resolution: 1920x1200
DE: Plasma 5.22.5
WM: KWin
Theme: Breeze Dark [Plasma], Arc-Dark [GTK2/3]
Icons: Surfn-Arched [Plasma], Surfn-Arched [GTK2/3]
Terminal: alacritty
CPU: Intel i7-1065G7 (8) @ 3.900GHz
GPU: Intel Iris Plus Graphics
Memory: 3700MiB / 31688MiB (11%)

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#2280 2021-10-13 09:22:40

Vitadek
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Registered: 2021-10-13
Posts: 4

Re: Laptops which run Arch

I'm running Lenovo Legion 5
With a Ryzen 5 &1650ti
I'm running xfce-4 with x11 as my DE.

Works like a charm. But I'm having issues with the brightness, I think it's a xorg issue, but idk atm.

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#2281 2021-10-13 15:47:02

thibdb13
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From: Mechelen - Belgium
Registered: 2005-10-11
Posts: 114

Re: Laptops which run Arch

 neofetch 
                   -`                    thibaud@urzhiataer 
                  .o+`                   ------------------ 
                 `ooo/                   OS: Arch Linux x86_64 
                `+oooo:                  Host: Predator PH317-54 V1.06 
               `+oooooo:                 Kernel: 5.14.11-arch1-1 
               -+oooooo+:                Uptime: 4 mins 
             `/:-:++oooo+:               Packages: 1312 (pacman) 
            `/++++/+++++++:              Shell: bash 5.1.8 
           `/++++++++++++++:             Resolution: 1920x1080 
          `/+++ooooooooooooo/`           DE: Plasma 5.22.5 
         ./ooosssso++osssssso+`          WM: KWin 
        .oossssso-````/ossssss+`         Theme: Breeze Light [Plasma], Breeze [GTK2/3] 
       -osssssso.      :ssssssso.        Icons: breeze [Plasma], breeze [GTK2/3] 
      :osssssss/        osssso+++.       Terminal: konsole 
     /ossssssss/        +ssssooo/-       CPU: Intel i7-10750H (12) @ 5.000GHz 
   `/ossssso+/:-        -:/+osssso+-     GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Mobile / Max-Q Refresh 
  `+sso+:-`                 `.-/+oso:    GPU: Intel CometLake-H GT2 [UHD Graphics] 
 `++:.                           `-/+/   Memory: 1462MiB / 15837MiB 
 .`                                 `/
                                                                 

Everything wortks as it should.
HDD: 1TB & SSD: 500 GB (nvme)

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#2282 2021-10-20 15:45:56

bluecoat
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Registered: 2021-06-13
Posts: 4

Re: Laptops which run Arch

Make and Model: HP Pavilion Gaming 15-ec0050AX (9AV28PA)

                   -`                 
                  .o+`                 
                 `ooo/                                          OS: Arch Linux
                `+oooo:                                       Kernel: x86_64 Linux 5.10.71-1-lts
               `+oooooo:                                    Uptime: 4d 16h 30m
               -+oooooo+:                                 Packages: 1680
             `/:-:++oooo+:                                 Shell: bash 5.1.8
            `/++++/+++++++:                           Resolution: 1920x1080
           `/++++++++++++++:                       DE: KDE 5.86.0 / Plasma 5.22.5
          `/+++ooooooooooooo/`                    WM: KWin
         ./ooosssso++osssssso+`                  GTK Theme: Materia-Namib [GTK2/3]
        .oossssso-````/ossssss+`                  Icon Theme: Papirus-Dark
       -osssssso.      :ssssssso.                   Disk: 858G / 1.0T (88%)
      :osssssss/        osssso+++.                CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3550H with Radeon Vega Mobile Gfx @ 8x 2.1GHz
     /ossssssss/        +ssssooo/-                GPU: NVIDIA Corporation TU117M [GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile / Max-Q] (rev a1) Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Picasso (rev c2)
   `/ossssso+/:-        -:/+osssso+-              RAM: 6182MiB / 13926MiB
  `+sso+:-`                 `.-/+oso:
`++:.                           `-/+/
.`                                 `/


Installed the above Kernel (5.10.71-1-lts) around 09 October 2021 and have had issues with sleep/wake, usb mouse suddenly disconnecting, backlight reverting to dim setting on shutdown/startup (doesn't save the brightness setting).

Stuck with it (even though i had the above issues) until 19 October, then install kernel 5.10.74-1-lts, hoping issues would be fixed. NO cigar.

Same. Same. I even had a hibernate issue with this kernel. System would freeze going in to hibernate.

While system was running the USB mouse would suddenly disconnect and the only way to get it back is to run a script that resets the usb ports. Even that was temperamental. i.e. sometimes it would just hang, sometimes it would complete but mouse remained disconnected.

Now I've restored one of my last known 'working' kernels, which is 5.4.69-1-lts. Yes, it's about an year old. But at least it dosent have any of the above issues. THe only issue it had was that all the LibreOffice suite applications suddenly stopped working. I'd click on 'writer' but it would not open.

That was the reason I updated the Kernel in the first place. Yes, LibreOffice started working, but I then had the mouse, sleep/wake, backlight issues. SO, now that I've gone back to the old kernel the LibreOffice issue is back, and I have to make do with OpenOffice. I say 'make do' because I think openoffice dosen't support one of the file formats I often use (.xlsx).

What a palava. I may wait for the next Kernel update, then try that one, if the issues are still prevalent distro hop to another linux flavour. Just spending too much time fixing system rather than doing work (using it).

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#2283 2021-10-21 00:00:54

ectospasm
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Registered: 2015-08-28
Posts: 80

Re: Laptops which run Arch

bluecoat wrote:

Installed the above Kernel (5.10.71-1-lts) around 09 October 2021 and have had issues with sleep/wake, usb mouse suddenly disconnecting, backlight reverting to dim setting on shutdown/startup (doesn't save the brightness setting).

Stuck with it (even though i had the above issues) until 19 October, then install kernel 5.10.74-1-lts, hoping issues would be fixed. NO cigar.

Same. Same. I even had a hibernate issue with this kernel. System would freeze going in to hibernate.

While system was running the USB mouse would suddenly disconnect and the only way to get it back is to run a script that resets the usb ports. Even that was temperamental. i.e. sometimes it would just hang, sometimes it would complete but mouse remained disconnected.

Now I've restored one of my last known 'working' kernels, which is 5.4.69-1-lts. Yes, it's about an year old. But at least it dosent have any of the above issues. THe only issue it had was that all the LibreOffice suite applications suddenly stopped working. I'd click on 'writer' but it would not open.

That was the reason I updated the Kernel in the first place. Yes, LibreOffice started working, but I then had the mouse, sleep/wake, backlight issues. SO, now that I've gone back to the old kernel the LibreOffice issue is back, and I have to make do with OpenOffice. I say 'make do' because I think openoffice dosen't support one of the file formats I often use (.xlsx).

What a palava. I may wait for the next Kernel update, then try that one, if the issues are still prevalent distro hop to another linux flavour. Just spending too much time fixing system rather than doing work (using it).

I've never used a Ryzen CPU myself, but as I understand it AMD has put a lot of work over the past year or so into getting Ryzen systems stable.  I'd try installing the stock linux package, instead of linux-lts.  In my experience the mainline Linux kernel has been very stable for me on the systems where I use it.  I only have linux-lts on one system, and I've only had it there for less than two weeks.

A couple of Fridays ago I had the day off, and my wife was out of town.  So I took the time to convert my old Debian router to Arch Linux.  The only reason I'm running linux-lts on it is for perceived susceptibility to kernel regressions.  If this host goes down I will be without Internet until it's fixed or replaced.  All my other systems (laptop, a few servers, and a VPS) run the linux kernel, and I haven't had very many problems with it.

About the only problem I can think of is the evdi developers don't keep up with the latest mainline kernel, so I can't use my DisplayLink dock with this laptop.  I've lived without it for so long that it doesn't really bother me.

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#2284 2021-10-23 01:57:37

bluecoat
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Registered: 2021-06-13
Posts: 4

Re: Laptops which run Arch

ectospasm wrote:
bluecoat wrote:

Installed the above Kernel (5.10.71-1-lts) around 09 October 2021 and have had issues with sleep/wake, usb mouse suddenly disconnecting, backlight reverting to dim setting on shutdown/startup (doesn't save the brightness setting).

Stuck with it (even though i had the above issues) until 19 October, then install kernel 5.10.74-1-lts, hoping issues would be fixed. NO cigar.

Same. Same. I even had a hibernate issue with this kernel. System would freeze going in to hibernate.

While system was running the USB mouse would suddenly disconnect and the only way to get it back is to run a script that resets the usb ports. Even that was temperamental. i.e. sometimes it would just hang, sometimes it would complete but mouse remained disconnected.

Now I've restored one of my last known 'working' kernels, which is 5.4.69-1-lts. Yes, it's about an year old. But at least it dosent have any of the above issues. THe only issue it had was that all the LibreOffice suite applications suddenly stopped working. I'd click on 'writer' but it would not open.

That was the reason I updated the Kernel in the first place. Yes, LibreOffice started working, but I then had the mouse, sleep/wake, backlight issues. SO, now that I've gone back to the old kernel the LibreOffice issue is back, and I have to make do with OpenOffice. I say 'make do' because I think openoffice dosen't support one of the file formats I often use (.xlsx).

What a palava. I may wait for the next Kernel update, then try that one, if the issues are still prevalent distro hop to another linux flavour. Just spending too much time fixing system rather than doing work (using it).

I've never used a Ryzen CPU myself, but as I understand it AMD has put a lot of work over the past year or so into getting Ryzen systems stable.  I'd try installing the stock linux package, instead of linux-lts.  In my experience the mainline Linux kernel has been very stable for me on the systems where I use it.  I only have linux-lts on one system, and I've only had it there for less than two weeks.

A couple of Fridays ago I had the day off, and my wife was out of town.  So I took the time to convert my old Debian router to Arch Linux.  The only reason I'm running linux-lts on it is for perceived susceptibility to kernel regressions.  If this host goes down I will be without Internet until it's fixed or replaced.  All my other systems (laptop, a few servers, and a VPS) run the linux kernel, and I haven't had very many problems with it.

About the only problem I can think of is the evdi developers don't keep up with the latest mainline kernel, so I can't use my DisplayLink dock with this laptop.  I've lived without it for so long that it doesn't really bother me.

Not convinced stability issues are mainly related to Ryzen processor.

I've read on forums, arch users spending many hours trying to get back a usable (bootable?) system, for example after an update.

I had the same experience yesterday (perhaps a bit of confirmation bias here because I had negative experience I was only seeing users who had similar negative experience?). Spent pretty much the whole day without a bootable system yesterday.

After trying to install the stock kernel (it gave various errors) and running update (pacman -Syu - which also gave errors), I rebooted just to see if after rebooting I could install the stock kernel.

Kernel (lts) not found error. Cannot boot.

Searched online and happen to see on a Manjaro forum that we can boot with live image then chroot to the root directory/ boot directory and fix.

Tried that. I was still not able to install the stock kernel. Installing the lts version worked. Booting was fine. However, after I login to kde an error came up 'kactivitymanagerd closed unexpectedly'. Spent hours trying to fix that. Tried many solutions, none of them worked.

As a last resort, I installed the xfce desktop and have now managed to at least get into a 'usable' desktop. Saying 'usable' in the loosest possible manner. Some apps like text editing (Kate, geany) apps crash when I open the 'save as' dialog. So I have to resort to 'touch filename.txt' within terminal. Geany filename.txt within terminal again to open the file then do ctrl-s to save within geany text editor.

Networking applet has to be opened via terminal. Still Cannot run 'pacman -Syu' as there are 'duplicate entries'
There are hundreds of them. Closest solution is running a python script from years ago ( which doesn't work - no one has posted a modified working script). Other option is to delete duplicates manually. Eh, no thanks. I have much better things to do.

You'd think that arch would build the whole updating process so that if errors are encountered while updating it would roll-back, but no, user is left with a unusable system that doesn't boot.

To be fair, I think the duplicate entries may be due to me restoring previous kernel via the timeshift backup/restore app. Still, I shouldn't have to go through hundreds of duplicate entries and remove them manually.

Now that I at least have a working desktop environment, I will be backing up files/making notes of all essential apps, then heading out to experience a more stable Linux distro. Pretty sure there are many around.

Edit: I was a Ubuntu user for 5+ years before. Never experienced issues of this magnitude. Goodbye Arch.

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#2285 2021-10-23 06:36:53

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Registered: 2018-09-30
Posts: 83

Re: Laptops which run Arch

❯ neofetch      
                   -`                     
                  .o+`                   ------------ 
                 `ooo/                   OS: Arch Linux x86_64 
                `+oooo:                  Host: 20U9005LUS ThinkPad X1 Carbon Gen 8 
               `+oooooo:                 Kernel: 5.14.14-2-cacule 
               -+oooooo+:                Uptime: 1 hour, 2 mins 
             `/:-:++oooo+:               Packages: 1765 (pacman) 
            `/++++/+++++++:              Shell: zsh 5.8 
           `/++++++++++++++:             Resolution: 1920x1080 
          `/+++ooooooooooooo/`           DE: Plasma 5.23.1 
         ./ooosssso++osssssso+`          WM: KWin 
        .oossssso-````/ossssss+`         Theme: Breeze Dark [Plasma], Breeze [GTK2/3] 
       -osssssso.      :ssssssso.        Icons: [Plasma], breeze-dark [GTK2/3] 
      :osssssss/        osssso+++.       Terminal: konsole 
     /ossssssss/        +ssssooo/-       Terminal Font: MesloLGS NF 10 
   `/ossssso+/:-        -:/+osssso+-     CPU: Intel i7-10610U (8) @ 4.900GHz 
  `+sso+:-`                 `.-/+oso:    GPU: Intel CometLake-U GT2 [UHD Graphics] 
 `++:.                           `-/+/   Memory: 3203MiB / 15634MiB 
 .`                                 `/

This laptop (Lenovo Carbon X1 Gen 8) runs beautifully. No issues with sound, camera, microphone, fingerprint reader, etc., and everything works very well. The only issue I ran into at all was that my NIC would drop packets if it was left in power save mode, and I had to disable it.

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#2286 2021-10-23 08:08:05

bluecoat
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Registered: 2021-06-13
Posts: 4

Re: Laptops which run Arch

cloverskull wrote:
❯ neofetch      
                   -`                     
                  .o+`                   ------------ 
                 `ooo/                   OS: Arch Linux x86_64 
                `+oooo:                  Host: 20U9005LUS ThinkPad X1 Carbon Gen 8 
               `+oooooo:                 Kernel: 5.14.14-2-cacule 
               -+oooooo+:                Uptime: 1 hour, 2 mins 
             `/:-:++oooo+:               Packages: 1765 (pacman) 
            `/++++/+++++++:              Shell: zsh 5.8 
           `/++++++++++++++:             Resolution: 1920x1080 
          `/+++ooooooooooooo/`           DE: Plasma 5.23.1 
         ./ooosssso++osssssso+`          WM: KWin 
        .oossssso-````/ossssss+`         Theme: Breeze Dark [Plasma], Breeze [GTK2/3] 
       -osssssso.      :ssssssso.        Icons: [Plasma], breeze-dark [GTK2/3] 
      :osssssss/        osssso+++.       Terminal: konsole 
     /ossssssss/        +ssssooo/-       Terminal Font: MesloLGS NF 10 
   `/ossssso+/:-        -:/+osssso+-     CPU: Intel i7-10610U (8) @ 4.900GHz 
  `+sso+:-`                 `.-/+oso:    GPU: Intel CometLake-U GT2 [UHD Graphics] 
 `++:.                           `-/+/   Memory: 3203MiB / 15634MiB 
 .`                                 `/

This laptop (Lenovo Carbon X1 Gen 8) runs beautifully. No issues with sound, camera, microphone, fingerprint reader, etc., and everything works very well. The only issue I ran into at all was that my NIC would drop packets if it was left in power save mode, and I had to disable it.

Mine was running 'beautifully' too at one point.

I've been using arch for over a year.

Good luck!

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#2287 2021-10-27 04:17:13

ectospasm
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Registered: 2015-08-28
Posts: 80

Re: Laptops which run Arch

I think this is all user error.  You've probably done something nonstandard, and it cascaded into all of the problems you've been having.  Unfortunately you seem to have done so much you probably couldn't tell us what you did to start all of these problems.  They may not have started right away so you didn't see the root cause.  These don't necessarily look related to kernel issues.  It's strange the linux package doesn't work, but linux-lts does boot, at least kinda. 

If I were you I'd backup everything I want to keep on this system, and then try again fresh.  I'd stick to pacman, and not any AUR helpers.  In fact, don't install anything from the AUR, from source, or outside of the main core, community, and extra repositories until you're sure the system is stable.

If it still behaves poorly, I wouldn't rule out some kind of hardware failure.  You can test with another Linux distribution in that case.  Hardware failures can manifest in strange, not always repeatable ways.  In fact, before you try any fresh install of Linux (including Arch), run the proprietary version of memtest86+, and let it run for all four of its passes.  It looks like this system has 12G RAM, so it may take a little less than a day to go through all four passes (my laptop with 32G RAM took a little over two days to test all four passes).  You may have a hard to detect memory issue, and it's causing all of these problems.

This really isn't what this thread is for, so if you'd like to continue, start another topic and see if you can ping me there.

bluecoat wrote:
ectospasm wrote:
bluecoat wrote:

Installed the above Kernel (5.10.71-1-lts) around 09 October 2021 and have had issues with sleep/wake, usb mouse suddenly disconnecting, backlight reverting to dim setting on shutdown/startup (doesn't save the brightness setting).

Stuck with it (even though i had the above issues) until 19 October, then install kernel 5.10.74-1-lts, hoping issues would be fixed. NO cigar.

Same. Same. I even had a hibernate issue with this kernel. System would freeze going in to hibernate.

While system was running the USB mouse would suddenly disconnect and the only way to get it back is to run a script that resets the usb ports. Even that was temperamental. i.e. sometimes it would just hang, sometimes it would complete but mouse remained disconnected.

Now I've restored one of my last known 'working' kernels, which is 5.4.69-1-lts. Yes, it's about an year old. But at least it dosent have any of the above issues. THe only issue it had was that all the LibreOffice suite applications suddenly stopped working. I'd click on 'writer' but it would not open.

That was the reason I updated the Kernel in the first place. Yes, LibreOffice started working, but I then had the mouse, sleep/wake, backlight issues. SO, now that I've gone back to the old kernel the LibreOffice issue is back, and I have to make do with OpenOffice. I say 'make do' because I think openoffice dosen't support one of the file formats I often use (.xlsx).

What a palava. I may wait for the next Kernel update, then try that one, if the issues are still prevalent distro hop to another linux flavour. Just spending too much time fixing system rather than doing work (using it).

I've never used a Ryzen CPU myself, but as I understand it AMD has put a lot of work over the past year or so into getting Ryzen systems stable.  I'd try installing the stock linux package, instead of linux-lts.  In my experience the mainline Linux kernel has been very stable for me on the systems where I use it.  I only have linux-lts on one system, and I've only had it there for less than two weeks.

A couple of Fridays ago I had the day off, and my wife was out of town.  So I took the time to convert my old Debian router to Arch Linux.  The only reason I'm running linux-lts on it is for perceived susceptibility to kernel regressions.  If this host goes down I will be without Internet until it's fixed or replaced.  All my other systems (laptop, a few servers, and a VPS) run the linux kernel, and I haven't had very many problems with it.

About the only problem I can think of is the evdi developers don't keep up with the latest mainline kernel, so I can't use my DisplayLink dock with this laptop.  I've lived without it for so long that it doesn't really bother me.

Not convinced stability issues are mainly related to Ryzen processor.

I've read on forums, arch users spending many hours trying to get back a usable (bootable?) system, for example after an update.

I had the same experience yesterday (perhaps a bit of confirmation bias here because I had negative experience I was only seeing users who had similar negative experience?). Spent pretty much the whole day without a bootable system yesterday.

After trying to install the stock kernel (it gave various errors) and running update (pacman -Syu - which also gave errors), I rebooted just to see if after rebooting I could install the stock kernel.

Kernel (lts) not found error. Cannot boot.

Searched online and happen to see on a Manjaro forum that we can boot with live image then chroot to the root directory/ boot directory and fix.

Tried that. I was still not able to install the stock kernel. Installing the lts version worked. Booting was fine. However, after I login to kde an error came up 'kactivitymanagerd closed unexpectedly'. Spent hours trying to fix that. Tried many solutions, none of them worked.

As a last resort, I installed the xfce desktop and have now managed to at least get into a 'usable' desktop. Saying 'usable' in the loosest possible manner. Some apps like text editing (Kate, geany) apps crash when I open the 'save as' dialog. So I have to resort to 'touch filename.txt' within terminal. Geany filename.txt within terminal again to open the file then do ctrl-s to save within geany text editor.

Networking applet has to be opened via terminal. Still Cannot run 'pacman -Syu' as there are 'duplicate entries'
There are hundreds of them. Closest solution is running a python script from years ago ( which doesn't work - no one has posted a modified working script). Other option is to delete duplicates manually. Eh, no thanks. I have much better things to do.

You'd think that arch would build the whole updating process so that if errors are encountered while updating it would roll-back, but no, user is left with a unusable system that doesn't boot.

To be fair, I think the duplicate entries may be due to me restoring previous kernel via the timeshift backup/restore app. Still, I shouldn't have to go through hundreds of duplicate entries and remove them manually.

Now that I at least have a working desktop environment, I will be backing up files/making notes of all essential apps, then heading out to experience a more stable Linux distro. Pretty sure there are many around.

Edit: I was a Ubuntu user for 5+ years before. Never experienced issues of this magnitude. Goodbye Arch.

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#2288 2021-10-28 07:00:12

primalmotion
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Registered: 2021-10-28
Posts: 1

Re: Laptops which run Arch

~❯ neofetch
                   -`                    
                  .o+`                   -------------
                 `ooo/                   OS: Arch Linux x86_64
                `+oooo:                  Host: librem_14 1.0
               `+oooooo:                 Kernel: 5.10.75-1-lts
               -+oooooo+:                Uptime: 1 day, 5 hours, 22 mins
             `/:-:++oooo+:               Packages: 1472 (pacman)
            `/++++/+++++++:              Shell: zsh 5.8
           `/++++++++++++++:             Resolution: 3840x2160
          `/+++ooooooooooooo/`           WM: sway
         ./ooosssso++osssssso+`          Theme: Adwaita-blue-dark [GTK2/3]
        .oossssso-````/ossssss+`         Icons: Reversal-blue-dark [GTK2/3]
       -osssssso.      :ssssssso.        Terminal: alacritty
      :osssssss/        osssso+++.       CPU: Intel i7-10710U (12) @ 4.700GHz
     /ossssssss/        +ssssooo/-       GPU: Intel Comet Lake UHD Graphics
   `/ossssso+/:-        -:/+osssso+-     Memory: 5999MiB / 64192MiB
  `+sso+:-`                 `.-/+oso:
 `++:.                           `-/+/
 .`                                 `/

I've been rolling Arch on this laptop, mostly without any issue for 6 months now.

Also this is my first post here, so hello world!

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#2289 2021-10-29 09:34:54

artesano
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Registered: 2018-03-02
Posts: 9

Re: Laptops which run Arch

                   -`                    
                  .o+`                   ------------- 
                 `ooo/                   OS: Arch Linux x86_64 
                `+oooo:                  Host: GS70 2PE Stealth Pro REV:1.0 
               `+oooooo:                 Kernel: 5.14.14-arch1-1 
               -+oooooo+:                Uptime: 1 hour, 27 mins 
             `/:-:++oooo+:               Packages: 1218 (pacman), 8 (flatpak) 
            `/++++/+++++++:              Shell: bash 5.1.8 
           `/++++++++++++++:             Resolution: 1920x1080 
          `/+++ooooooooooooo/`           DE: GNOME 40.5 
         ./ooosssso++osssssso+`          WM: Mutter 
        .oossssso-````/ossssss+`         WM Theme: Adwaita 
       -osssssso.      :ssssssso.        Theme: Adwaita [GTK2/3] 
      :osssssss/        osssso+++.       Icons: Adwaita [GTK2/3] 
     /ossssssss/        +ssssooo/-       Terminal: gnome-terminal 
   `/ossssso+/:-        -:/+osssso+-     CPU: Intel i7-4700HQ (8) @ 3.400GHz 
  `+sso+:-`                 `.-/+oso:    GPU: Intel 4th Gen Core Processor 
 `++:.                           `-/+/   Memory: 2083MiB / 7870MiB 
 .`                                 `/

Works like a charm since first installation on this laptop two and a half years ago..

Any good news on (Arch) Linux support for NVidia grafics cards? I haven't bothered with the issue in the last few years.

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#2290 2021-10-31 13:05:55

universe822
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From: Bordeaux
Registered: 2021-08-17
Posts: 2

Re: Laptops which run Arch

HP Pavilion TS 11 Notebook PC
CPU: AMD A4-1250 APU (2) @ 1.000GHz
GPU: AMD ATI Radeon HD 8210
Memory: 1341MiB / 3384MiB

It's a small, potato laptop so I use dwm and qutebrowser. Boot is quite fast.
I use "xinput disable 10" for the Atmel Atmel maXTouch Digitizer to disable the touchscreen because it's fucked and mess with my mouse use.
Slow as expected but reliable. It's been 3 month.

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#2291 2021-10-31 22:23:14

Nevada
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From: Leeward Antilles
Registered: 2021-10-31
Posts: 1

Re: Laptops which run Arch

                   -`                    mode@se7enwrkst 
                  .o+`                   --------------- 
                 `ooo/                   OS: Arch Linux x86_64 
                `+oooo:                  Machine: Latitude 12 Rugged Extreme 7214 
               `+oooooo:                 Kernel: 5.14.15-arch1-1 
               -+oooooo+:                Uptime: 35 mins 
             `/:-:++oooo+:               Packages: 1504 (pacman), 26 (flatpak) 
            `/++++/+++++++:              Shell: zsh 5.8 
           `/++++++++++++++:             Resolution: 1366x768 
          `/+++ooooooooooooo/`           DE: GNOME 40.5 
         ./ooosssso++osssssso+`          WM: Mutter 
        .oossssso-````/ossssss+`         WM Theme: Latitude RE 
       -osssssso.      :ssssssso.        Theme: Latitude RE 
      :osssssss/        osssso+++.       Icons: Latitude RE 
     /ossssssss/        +ssssooo/-       Terminal: gnome-terminal 
   `/ossssso+/:-        -:/+osssso+-     CPU: Intel i7-6600U (4) @ 3.400GHz 
  `+sso+:-`                 `.-/+oso:    GPU: Intel Skylake GT2 [HD Graphics 520] 
 `++:.                           `-/+/   Memory: 2949MiB / 31979MiB 
 .`                                 `/   Internal Power #0: 81% [Discharging] 

Ruggerized convertible laptop from Dell

  • Resistive Touchscreen: Works (needs to be calibrated)

  • LTE/4G Modem: Works with Networkmanager

  • Smartcard Reader: Internal works, wireless DO NOT WORK (Cards are not detected)

  • Autorotation: works on Gnome 40, Xorg: rotation needs to be locked manually, Wayland: rotation is locked on laptop mode and only unlocks when the laptop is on tablet mode

  • Bluetooth: Works, tested with BT LE Mouse and BT LE Headphones

Non-Standard Hardware:

  • Internal GPS Module: Works (needs to be assigned the correct vendor id as it seems that this revision is more recent than the known vendor ids for Future Technologies Serial2USB, vendor id has been submitted to the database)

  • Rear camera (12 Megapixel): kinda works...cheese can use it, can display it, take photos, but most of the time crashes and stop working until the system is rebooted. fled flash is not fired.help needed

  • Dock: all ports work, VGA OK, DP OK, USB 3.1 OK, USB 2.0 OK, AUDIO IN and OUT OK.

  • Serial port, RS232 on both computer and dock, cant test it as i have no serial devices.

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