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#151 2007-10-07 20:36:43

jinn
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Re: [REPO] kde4 4.0/amarok2/koffice2

Not much left now.. Soon beta3. Hopefully somewhat better.

  October 8, 2007: Beta3

Beta 3 is prepared, initially tested and released on October 15.
October 19, 2007: Total Release Freeze

This is the very last chance for committing anything that isn't reviewed on the development lists. If in doubt, ask the release coordinator.
October 24, 2007: Tagging Release Candidate 1, Tagging KDE Development Platform

Release Candidate 1 of the Desktop is prepared, initially tested and released on October 30. The KDE Development Platform is tagged for final release and released on October 30.
November 14, 2007: Tagging Release Candidate 2

Release Candidate 2 is prepared, initially tested and released on November 20.
December 5, 2007: Tagging Final Release

Final release candidate is prepared and tested.
December 11, 2007: Targeted KDE 4.0 Release Date

The ultimate Archlinux release name: "I am your father"

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#152 2007-10-12 18:37:00

tardo
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Re: [REPO] kde4 4.0/amarok2/koffice2

bump for beta3. i was going to release this on monday, but i won't be here. building x64 packages as i type this, will come this weekend.

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#153 2007-10-12 20:32:08

newgargamel
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Re: [REPO] kde4 4.0/amarok2/koffice2

tardo wrote:

bump for beta3. i was going to release this on monday, but i won't be here. building x64 packages as i type this, will come this weekend.

Why kdebase and kdelibs take so much space?

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#154 2007-10-12 20:41:17

tardo
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Re: [REPO] kde4 4.0/amarok2/koffice2

oops sorry, libs/pimlibs/base are built with !strip, for full debugging effect.

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#155 2007-10-12 20:51:26

newgargamel
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Re: [REPO] kde4 4.0/amarok2/koffice2

tardo wrote:

oops sorry, libs/pimlibs/base are built with !strip, for full debugging effect.

will you leave it like that or will you change it?

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#156 2007-10-12 21:03:54

tardo
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Re: [REPO] kde4 4.0/amarok2/koffice2

it stays like that.

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#157 2007-10-13 00:22:32

somairotevoli
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Re: [REPO] kde4 4.0/amarok2/koffice2

Thanks for all your hardwork. Just installed. Got dbus error after login, but still kde loads. It's seems even slower than the previous betas, but I am enjoying seeing the progress. Is the kicker supposed to be empty besides the clock?

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#158 2007-10-13 01:42:07

tardo
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Re: [REPO] kde4 4.0/amarok2/koffice2

yes, kicker will completely be replaced. if you're looking for a temporary menu install kickoff (search for it).

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#159 2007-10-13 02:47:09

somairotevoli
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Re: [REPO] kde4 4.0/amarok2/koffice2

Thanks....but I already uninstalled, it was too slow for even testing reasons and still a lot of frequent crashings, but none-the-less much progress over previous beta.

Thanks again for building these pkgs and allowing us to have a peak.

Last edited by somairotevoli (2007-10-13 02:47:25)

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#160 2007-10-13 04:13:03

mutlu_inek
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Re: [REPO] kde4 4.0/amarok2/koffice2

Hmm... the previous version worked quite well for me. This one, however, does not properly display window borders, window contents, menus, or kicker. - Nothing but a few dark shadows on white background is displayed. Maybe I am missing something?

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#161 2007-10-13 09:07:34

tardo
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Re: [REPO] kde4 4.0/amarok2/koffice2

mutlu_inek wrote:

Hmm... the previous version worked quite well for me. This one, however, does not properly display window borders, window contents, menus, or kicker. - Nothing but a few dark shadows on white background is displayed. Maybe I am missing something?

Yes, kwin is automatically trying to use composite, which doesn't work well with your card. Best bet is to disable it. You'll have to edit your /home/user/.kde/share/config/kwinrc file for that. Here's mine:

[$Version]
update_info=kwin_focus2.upd:kwin_focus2,kwin.upd:kde3.0r1,kwin.upd:kde3.2Xinerama,kwin_focus1.upd:kwin_focus1,kwin3_plugin.upd:kde3.2,kwin_on_off.upd:kwin_on_off

[Compositing]
Enabled=false

[Desktops]
Name_1=
Name_2=
Name_3=
Name_4=
Number=4

[MouseBindings]
CommandActiveTitlebar1=Raise
CommandActiveTitlebar2=Lower
CommandActiveTitlebar3=Operations menu
CommandAll1=Move
CommandAll2=Toggle raise and lower
CommandAll3=Resize
CommandAllKey=Alt
CommandAllWheel=Nothing
CommandInactiveTitlebar1=Activate and raise
CommandInactiveTitlebar2=Activate and lower
CommandInactiveTitlebar3=Operations menu
CommandTitlebarWheel=Nothing
CommandWindow1=Activate, raise and pass click
CommandWindow2=Activate and pass click
CommandWindow3=Activate and pass click

[Notification Messages]
UseTranslucency=false

[PopupInfo]
ShowPopup=false

[Style]
BorderSize=1
ButtonsOnLeft=MS
ButtonsOnRight=HIAX
CustomButtonPositions=false
PluginLib=kwin3_oxy
ShowToolTips=true

[TabBox]
TraverseAll=false

[Translucency]
ActiveWindowOpacity=100
ActiveWindowShadowSize=127
DockOpacity=80
DockShadowSize=18
InactiveWindowOpacity=75
InactiveWindowShadowSize=72
MovingWindowOpacity=25
OnlyDecoTranslucent=false
RemoveShadowsOnMove=false
RemoveShadowsOnResize=false
ResetKompmgr=false
TranslucentActiveWindows=false
TranslucentDocks=true
TranslucentInactiveWindows=true
TranslucentMovingWindows=false
TreatKeepAboveAsActive=true

[Windows]
AltTabStyle=KDE
AnimateMinimize=true
AnimateMinimizeSpeed=5
AnimateShade=true
AutoRaise=off
AutoRaiseInterval=750
BorderSnapZone=10
ClickRaise=on
DelayFocus=off
DelayFocusInterval=750
ElectricBorderDelay=150
ElectricBorders=0
FocusPolicy=ClickToFocus
FocusStealingPreventionLevel=1
GeometryTip=false
HideUtilityWindowsForInactive=false
IgnoreFocusStealingClasses=kio_uiserver
MaximizeButtonLeftClickCommand=Maximize
MaximizeButtonMiddleClickCommand=Maximize (vertical only)
MaximizeButtonRightClickCommand=Maximize (horizontal only)
MoveMode=Opaque
MoveResizeMaximizedWindows=true
Placement=Smart
ResizeMode=Opaque
RollOverDesktops=true
ShadeHover=on
ShadeHoverInterval=250
SnapOnlyWhenOverlapping=false
TitlebarDoubleClickCommand=Shade
WindowSnapZone=10

Adding the compositing section may be enough.

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#162 2007-10-16 02:01:32

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Re: [REPO] kde4 4.0/amarok2/koffice2

Thanks, tardo, that worked!

tardo wrote:

Adding the compositing section may be enough.

Yes,

[Compositing]
Enabled=false

is indeed enough. Your settings are nice, though. smile

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#163 2007-10-17 00:13:35

Cipher
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Posts: 43

Re: [REPO] kde4 4.0/amarok2/koffice2

installed kde4 using virtualbox cool , but try to login but a got a message:

error - could not start dbus

but:

/etc/rc.d/dbus start
/etc/rc.d/hal start

ideas ???


sorry for my english...

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#164 2007-10-17 01:02:59

tardo
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Re: [REPO] kde4 4.0/amarok2/koffice2

how are you starting kde?

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#165 2007-10-17 01:50:56

tardo
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Re: [REPO] kde4 4.0/amarok2/koffice2

bump for x64 versions.

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#166 2007-10-17 03:35:09

tanis
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Re: [REPO] kde4 4.0/amarok2/koffice2

kdegraphics4-3.94.0-3-x86_64.pkg.tar.gz is broken. Both size and MD5 are wrong.

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#167 2007-10-17 04:05:18

Cipher
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Re: [REPO] kde4 4.0/amarok2/koffice2

tardo wrote:

how are you starting kde?

*startkde
*/opt/kde4/bin/kdm
*startx

wink

always the same error, after login with user/pass got a blank message: could not start dbus, check your installation. and then start the splashscreen of kde4.


sorry for my english...

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#168 2007-10-17 04:09:14

tardo
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Re: [REPO] kde4 4.0/amarok2/koffice2

@tanis: fixed

@Cipher: you should only need startkde. if you want to use startx, add 'startkde' to ~/.xinit and comment everything else, then run startx.

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#169 2007-10-17 04:43:50

tanis
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Re: [REPO] kde4 4.0/amarok2/koffice2

Cipher: add this to your .bashrc file:
export PATH=/opt/kde4/bin:/opt/qt4/bin:$PATH

tardo: thanks smile

But still... I am disappointed. I wouldn't call it "beta". More like "developer preview" sad

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#170 2007-10-18 03:52:56

Cipher
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Re: [REPO] kde4 4.0/amarok2/koffice2

tanis wrote:

Cipher: add this to your .bashrc file:
export PATH=/opt/kde4/bin:/opt/qt4/bin:$PATH

tardo: thanks smile

But still... I am disappointed. I wouldn't call it "beta". More like "developer preview" sad

thnkz, work for me wink

but kwin crash too and is very unusable mad

PD: what about nepomuk ???  can use tagging in dolphin???

Last edited by Cipher (2007-10-18 05:16:59)


sorry for my english...

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#171 2007-10-18 08:54:42

yuanjiayj
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Re: [REPO] kde4 4.0/amarok2/koffice2

why the kdebase4-3.94.0-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz  is so big?
The kdebase-3.94.0.tar.bz2 is only 59,186 KB.

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#172 2007-10-18 12:34:14

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Re: [REPO] kde4 4.0/amarok2/koffice2

Scroll up and learn reading.

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#173 2007-10-20 06:51:11

yuanjiayj
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Re: [REPO] kde4 4.0/amarok2/koffice2

now when I start kde3, plasma auto start everytime too.
and konqueror's error is "Error loading 'kio_http'."

Last edited by yuanjiayj (2007-10-20 12:57:01)

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#174 2007-10-20 21:22:17

pedepy
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Re: [REPO] kde4 4.0/amarok2/koffice2

is the version on the repo beta 3 and is it any better ?

id really like to give it a shot but I dont wanna mess everything up .. i actually recently had problems and had to reinstall everything from scratch twice; .......... i dont wanna do that again. however if I can put my machine to the test, id be happy to submit bug reports to the kde4 developers - granted that when Im done, i can just pacman -U and go back to normal. Is this possible ?


chupocabra ... psupsuspsu psu psu

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#175 2007-10-20 22:28:52

Noneus
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Re: [REPO] kde4 4.0/amarok2/koffice2

Yes it is beta3. You can do

pacman -S kde4

This installs the kde4 group. This will install everything necessary.

To remove it you can remove the group.

pacman -Rc kde4

The no longer needed dependencies can be removed with a script I made: http://noneus.de/downloads/arch-scripts … orphans.sh

Last edited by Noneus (2007-10-20 22:35:39)

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