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#401 2008-01-04 16:02:35

tardo
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Re: [REPO] kde4 4.0/amarok2/koffice2

i haven't heard anything from the arch devs about how they want to do kde4. a lot of people are recommending NOT using it as a replacement for kde3 yet. if the arch devs decide not to put it in official repos i'll build it sooner or later.

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#402 2008-01-04 16:11:26

mutlu_inek
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Re: [REPO] kde4 4.0/amarok2/koffice2

I already built 4.0.0. It is true that it cannot yet fully replace the old KDE3 experience; there are regressions in regard to functionality (kdepim and kdedev, e.g., are missing and you cannot change the panel layout, etc.). But if someone is curious enough and wants to use it, I really see no reason not to do so. I find that it has improved drastically during the last week. Also, you can always use KDE3 programs within KDE4. It would be great if the Arch devs could offer a version that installs parallel to KDE3. This is, after all, intentionally made possible by the KDE team.

I don't have enough bandwidth to upload at the moment since I am traveling. But I could upload packages in a week or so. However, until then we might prefer to use the current branches/KDE/4.0/ since lots of fixes that are already going into the 4.1 trunk are being backported. I believe 4.0.1 will come really soon.

Last edited by mutlu_inek (2008-01-04 16:13:23)

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#403 2008-01-04 16:30:20

May-C
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Re: [REPO] kde4 4.0/amarok2/koffice2

I really would like to use kde4 parallel to kde3. So I could write my own plasmoids and so on! Until now I did not install kde4 on arch as I don't want to use the testing repo and it seems to have conflicts with the kdemod packages.

It really would be no problem to have a parallel kde4 because it can specified to use even its own home e.g. .kde4.

So I hope there will be soon a prallel kde4mod big_smile

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#404 2008-01-04 18:02:48

somairotevoli
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Re: [REPO] kde4 4.0/amarok2/koffice2

You can indeed change the panel layout, just not location or size of panel. Just drag plasmoides from the plasma chooser (whatever it's called) into the panel.

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#405 2008-01-05 12:40:27

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Re: [REPO] kde4 4.0/amarok2/koffice2

May-C wrote:

I really would like to use kde4 parallel to kde3. So I could write my own plasmoids and so on! Until now I did not install kde4 on arch as I don't want to use the testing repo and it seems to have conflicts with the kdemod packages.

It really would be no problem to have a parallel kde4 because it can specified to use even its own home e.g. .kde4.

So I hope there will be soon a prallel kde4mod big_smile

Take a look here: http://www.kdemod.ath.cx/bbs/viewtopic.php?id=406

4.0 packages will be available shortly...


want a modular and tweaked KDE for arch? try kdemod

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#406 2008-01-06 12:16:14

May-C
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Re: [REPO] kde4 4.0/amarok2/koffice2

Thanks funkyou

I already knew about that. It's only for 686 (until now) and you have to activate testing repositories. AFAIK it also removes qt-enhanced... so the question is, if it is really possible to install it parallel to kde3?

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#407 2008-01-06 21:25:50

funkyou
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Re: [REPO] kde4 4.0/amarok2/koffice2

May-C wrote:

AFAIK it also removes qt-enhanced...

No. Just read the forum post i linked above...

May-C wrote:

so the question is, if it is really possible to install it parallel to kde3?

Works fine here


want a modular and tweaked KDE for arch? try kdemod

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#408 2008-01-07 10:45:35

May-C
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Re: [REPO] kde4 4.0/amarok2/koffice2

Good to hear! So I just have to wait until the x86_64 packages are out big_smile

I think I will try to build it with the PKGBUILDs

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#409 2008-01-07 11:51:18

May-C
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Re: [REPO] kde4 4.0/amarok2/koffice2

Ok I would like to build it for 64 but where do I find the PKGBUILDS for:

- kdemod-testing/qt-enhanced
- kdemod-testing/kdemod-gtk-qt-engine

Withouth this packages I cant start

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#410 2008-01-09 00:55:36

tanis
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Re: [REPO] kde4 4.0/amarok2/koffice2

I have compiled KDE 4.0 packages for x86_64.
They are in the repository:

[tanis]
Server = http://jakub.markconstable.com/x86_64

Only kdepim4 is not in 4.0 version - it wasn't released as a 4.0 and 3.97 doesn't compile with the rest of packages in 4.0 versions. So I used latest svn available. Packages are without debugging information, and libraries are stripped.
There is new package kdebindings4, which wasn't present before.
This time (again) packages need dependencies from testing repository.

(If anybody is interested, the same repository includes also firefox3 beta2 package, which can be installed next to firefox2)

PKGBUILDS for KDE4 are here: http://jakub.markconstable.com/kde4pkgbuilds.tar.gz

Last edited by tanis (2008-01-09 00:58:41)

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#411 2008-01-09 11:34:35

mutlu_inek
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Re: [REPO] kde4 4.0/amarok2/koffice2

That's great, Tanis!

If someone is curious what will happen to KDE4 in Arch, there is a discussion going on here: http://archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-dev … 04120.html

So the KDE4 packages will probably go to testing or into a private repo until 4.1. Of course there are the repos from this thread (tanis, KDEmod, and whatever else will come up).

P.S. If someone wants to build him/herself (i.e. not for a 4.0.0. repo), I would recommend to use the 4.0. branch (branches/KDE/4.0/) instead of the 4.0.0. tagged version (tags/KDE/4.0.0), because that is where the bugfix backports for 4.0.1. go. So effectively, it will be a 4.0 with some fixes but no new features.

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#412 2008-01-09 20:49:07

miggols99
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Re: [REPO] kde4 4.0/amarok2/koffice2

tanis wrote:

I have compiled KDE 4.0 packages for x86_64.
They are in the repository:

[tanis]
Server = http://jakub.markconstable.com/x86_64

Only kdepim4 is not in 4.0 version - it wasn't released as a 4.0 and 3.97 doesn't compile with the rest of packages in 4.0 versions. So I used latest svn available. Packages are without debugging information, and libraries are stripped.
There is new package kdebindings4, which wasn't present before.
This time (again) packages need dependencies from testing repository.

(If anybody is interested, the same repository includes also firefox3 beta2 package, which can be installed next to firefox2)

PKGBUILDS for KDE4 are here: http://jakub.markconstable.com/kde4pkgbuilds.tar.gz

Hi. I can't seem to get kdm working. Kdm starts up fine, but it has loads of users which don't exist. When I try to login as me, it says something like "Please check the error log or contact your system administrator." My log is:

********************************************************************************
Note that your system uses syslog. All of kdm's internally generated messages
(i.e., not from libraries and external programs/scripts it uses) go to the
daemon.* syslog facility; check your syslog configuration to find out to which
file(s) it is logged. PAM logs messages related to authentication to authpriv.*.
********************************************************************************


This is a pre-release version of the X server from The X.Org Foundation.
It is not supported in any way.
Bugs may be filed in the bugzilla at http://bugs.freedesktop.org/.
Select the "xorg" product for bugs you find in this release.
Before reporting bugs in pre-release versions please check the
latest version in the X.Org Foundation git repository.
See http://wiki.x.org/wiki/GitPage for git access instructions.

X.Org X Server 1.4.0.90
Release Date: 5 September 2007
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.23-ARCH x86_64 
Current Operating System: Linux michael-laptop 2.6.23-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Dec 21 20:26:31 CET 2007 x86_64
Build Date: 23 December 2007  08:26:15PM
 
    Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
    to make sure that you have the latest version.
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
    (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
    (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Wed Jan  9 20:49:30 2008
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
(II) Module "ddc" already built-in
(WW) intel: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:2:1) found
(II) Module "ddc" already built-in
(II) Module "i2c" already built-in
(II) Module "ramdac" already built-in
expected keysym, got XF86KbdLightOnOff: line 70 of pc
expected keysym, got XF86KbdBrightnessDown: line 71 of pc
expected keysym, got XF86KbdBrightnessUp: line 72 of pc
expected keysym, got XF86KbdLightOnOff: line 70 of pc
expected keysym, got XF86KbdBrightnessDown: line 71 of pc
expected keysym, got XF86KbdBrightnessUp: line 72 of pc
Link points to "/var/tmp/kdecache-root"
Link points to "/tmp/kde-root"
(EE) intel(0): I830 Vblank Pipe Setup Failed 0
(EE) intel(0): I830 Vblank Pipe Setup Failed 0
(EE) intel(0): I830 Vblank Pipe Setup Failed 0
FreeFontPath: FPE "/usr/share/fonts/misc" refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing.
expected keysym, got XF86KbdLightOnOff: line 70 of pc
expected keysym, got XF86KbdBrightnessDown: line 71 of pc
expected keysym, got XF86KbdBrightnessUp: line 72 of pc
expected keysym, got XF86KbdLightOnOff: line 70 of pc
expected keysym, got XF86KbdBrightnessDown: line 71 of pc
expected keysym, got XF86KbdBrightnessUp: line 72 of pc
Link points to "/var/tmp/kdecache-root"
FreeFontPath: FPE "/usr/share/fonts/misc" refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing.

Also how do I get kdesu? I don't like using sudo becuase it has a lot of errors with permissions, and stops me from logging in because .ICEauthority is owned by root for some reason.

Last edited by miggols99 (2008-01-09 21:04:11)

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#413 2008-01-12 13:40:36

capthookb
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Re: [REPO] kde4 4.0/amarok2/koffice2

tanis wrote:

I used tanis' pkbuilds and built kde4 for i686 32bit. Although i don't have a fast internet connection to share. Does anyone want to host it?

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#414 2008-01-13 13:35:32

pcxz
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From: Italy
Registered: 2008-01-13
Posts: 67

Re: [REPO] kde4 4.0/amarok2/koffice2

tanis wrote:

I have compiled KDE 4.0 packages for x86_64.
They are in the repository:

[tanis]
Server = http://jakub.markconstable.com/x86_64

Only kdepim4 is not in 4.0 version - it wasn't released as a 4.0 and 3.97 doesn't compile with the rest of packages in 4.0 versions. So I used latest svn available. Packages are without debugging information, and libraries are stripped.
There is new package kdebindings4, which wasn't present before.
This time (again) packages need dependencies from testing repository.

(If anybody is interested, the same repository includes also firefox3 beta2 package, which can be installed next to firefox2)

PKGBUILDS for KDE4 are here: http://jakub.markconstable.com/kde4pkgbuilds.tar.gz

Thanks for this, ..only url not exist smile

P.S.
Now is online ..thx smile

Last edited by pcxz (2008-01-13 15:23:21)

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#415 2008-01-14 12:45:46

atomopawn
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Registered: 2007-08-26
Posts: 71

Re: [REPO] kde4 4.0/amarok2/koffice2

Does anyone have koffice2 working on x86_64?  I tried installing Tardo's packages, but I get an error about libkdeprint.so.5.  I'll try out the koffice-svn package that's in AUR and if that doesn't work try to roll my own, but if someone else has an easier way, I'd rather not reinvent the wheel...

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#416 2008-01-14 13:41:13

jordz
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Registered: 2006-02-01
Posts: 250

Re: [REPO] kde4 4.0/amarok2/koffice2

tanis wrote:

I have compiled KDE 4.0 packages for x86_64.
They are in the repository:

[tanis]
Server = http://jakub.markconstable.com/x86_64

Only kdepim4 is not in 4.0 version - it wasn't released as a 4.0 and 3.97 doesn't compile with the rest of packages in 4.0 versions. So I used latest svn available. Packages are without debugging information, and libraries are stripped.
There is new package kdebindings4, which wasn't present before.
This time (again) packages need dependencies from testing repository.

(If anybody is interested, the same repository includes also firefox3 beta2 package, which can be installed next to firefox2)

PKGBUILDS for KDE4 are here: http://jakub.markconstable.com/kde4pkgbuilds.tar.gz

Is this the kdemod version? Thanks for you repo, I was searching for x86_64 binaries smile

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#417 2008-01-14 13:55:19

byte
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Re: [REPO] kde4 4.0/amarok2/koffice2


1000

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#418 2008-01-14 20:42:16

BrigadierFRog
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Registered: 2007-02-25
Posts: 14

Re: [REPO] kde4 4.0/amarok2/koffice2

Whats this tapioca-qt package? I didn't see it in your pkgbuilds or in aur...?

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#419 2008-01-15 03:13:59

Hinux
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Registered: 2007-08-26
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Re: [REPO] kde4 4.0/amarok2/koffice2

BrigadierFRog wrote:

Whats this tapioca-qt package? I didn't see it in your pkgbuilds or in aur...?

you could search the package like tapioca-qt-svn smile

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#420 2008-01-15 04:48:40

tardo
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Posts: 526

Re: [REPO] kde4 4.0/amarok2/koffice2

if you're still reluctant to install KDE4, I'm building the packages as I type this. My internet will be hooked up tomorrow, and I'll boot up my x64 box so everyone can enjoy KDE4. Give me till the end of the week though, it takes time to ensure the packages are done right.

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#421 2008-01-15 05:39:01

BrigadierFRog
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Re: [REPO] kde4 4.0/amarok2/koffice2

Sure, I don't mind waiting. Means less hassle. Thanks!

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#422 2008-01-15 09:57:47

pcxz
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From: Italy
Registered: 2008-01-13
Posts: 67

Re: [REPO] kde4 4.0/amarok2/koffice2

tardo wrote:

if you're still reluctant to install KDE4, I'm building the packages as I type this. My internet will be hooked up tomorrow, and I'll boot up my x64 box so everyone can enjoy KDE4. Give me till the end of the week though, it takes time to ensure the packages are done right.

Very very thanks smile

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#423 2008-01-15 16:19:38

miggols99
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Registered: 2007-06-10
Posts: 424

Re: [REPO] kde4 4.0/amarok2/koffice2

tardo wrote:

if you're still reluctant to install KDE4, I'm building the packages as I type this. My internet will be hooked up tomorrow, and I'll boot up my x64 box so everyone can enjoy KDE4. Give me till the end of the week though, it takes time to ensure the packages are done right.

Thanks smile By the way, is there a difference between KDE 4.0 and 4.0.0? Also will you be building the language packs? I don't mind using american english for now but I don't really like seeing "Colors" instead of "Colours"...

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#424 2008-01-15 17:22:23

tardo
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Posts: 526

Re: [REPO] kde4 4.0/amarok2/koffice2

I can write a pkgbuild that will build it for you, but I have no intention of building it myself.

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#425 2008-01-15 18:38:38

miggols99
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Posts: 424

Re: [REPO] kde4 4.0/amarok2/koffice2

Thanks. I don't mind building it myself. Could you provide a PKGBUILD. Oh and if you don't know already I would like the GB locale.

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