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#1 2004-07-02 18:24:41

Dusty
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For those interested in minimalist window managers...

I'm going to try out Screen because of this article. I think I'll stick with ion over ratpoison though... same idea, but more intelligent.

Here's the article:
http://freshmeat.net/articles/view/581/

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#2 2004-07-02 22:11:31

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Re: For those interested in minimalist window managers...

screen looks a bit hardcore for me...
I just made a PKGBUILD for wmi the other day and I've been playing around with it - it's quite nice. "The VIM of window managers" ...!
wmi.berlios.de

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#3 2004-07-02 22:30:31

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Re: For those interested in minimalist window managers...

I think I stick with ion for a while now.  big_smile It will take me a few years to learn it.
Nice article though.


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#4 2004-07-02 23:51:39

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Re: For those interested in minimalist window managers...

I'd like the PKGBUILD for wmi. It looks like it might be as good as ion, though I really can't think of anything about ion that I don't like that needs changing...

Dusty

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#5 2004-07-03 01:08:20

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Re: For those interested in minimalist window managers...

I'm using screen and I like it a lot. It's especially good for remote administration (one ssh connection, automatic and manual detach/attach mode, easy copy/paste with keyboard, automatic start of your favourite programs, etc. etc. - so much power in this app). I also like the concept of ion/wmi/ratpoison and similar wms - finally someone that does not blindly copy windows/macos functionality.
This should also interest those of you who remember good old dos/borland tools days :-) http://linuz.sns.it/~max/twin/ (http://sourceforge.net/projects/twin/, http://themes.freshmeat.net/projects/twin/, http://gnuweb.binarycompass.org/directo … /twin.html)

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#6 2004-07-03 09:31:22

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Re: For those interested in minimalist window managers...

luckily for me wmi has no runtime dependencies so the pkgbuild is quite unsophisticated. That's the way I like it...:)

pkgname=wmi
pkgver=8
pkrel=1
pkgdesc="window manager for x11"
url="http://wmi.berlios.de/wmi/index.html"
depends=()
source=(http://download.berlios.de/wmi/$pkgname-$pkgver.tar.gz)
md5sums=('6d21d1a2c69bffc4fd90e2251a36e1d2')

build() {
 cd $startdir/src/$pkgname-$pkgver
 ./configure --prefix=/usr
 make || return 1
 make prefix=$startdir/pkg/usr install
}

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#7 2004-07-03 10:24:38

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Re: For those interested in minimalist window managers...

I've used screen a bit, but after I read that article it seems even more interesting! Now i don't need VNC all the time! W00t!  big_smile

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#8 2004-07-03 11:54:10

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Re: For those interested in minimalist window managers...

robot5x: Wouln't it depend on X anyway?  :?

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#9 2004-07-03 13:17:40

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Re: For those interested in minimalist window managers...

yes, sorry - I just did it for myself really, but Dusty said he'd like to check it out...
I never really bother with the depends if I just use them myself - it's a good habit to get into tho.:)

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#10 2004-07-03 16:17:00

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Re: For those interested in minimalist window managers...

Yes thanks, its on my todo list, after getmail and mutt...

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#11 2004-07-03 18:12:50

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Re: For those interested in minimalist window managers...

I've just tryed wmi and i think it has a lot of potential. I think it will become my favourite wm very quickly.

Thanks robot5x...you made my day tongue

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#12 2004-07-03 19:58:23

lanrat
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Re: For those interested in minimalist window managers...

http://wmi.berlios.de/docs/wmi-paper.pdf this summarizes the concepts of wmi and compares its features to ion and larswm. very interesting...

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#13 2004-07-05 13:05:33

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Re: For those interested in minimalist window managers...

lanrat wrote:

This should also interest those of you who remember good old dos/borland tools days :-)

Wow, I am going to have a look at that since I remember fondly those days! It's a shame that the windows don't have the same close button as the turbo pascal/borland c++ IDEs!

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#14 2004-07-05 14:50:07

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Re: For those interested in minimalist window managers...

You should also try larswm out, think it'll suit a lot of people here. I like the concept of a real window *manager*, but it's a shame I need BiDi support in the titlebars and so on. I'm also into graphics... If only there was such a window manager which is toolkit-based.

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#15 2004-07-06 22:00:18

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Re: For those interested in minimalist window managers...

I tried wmi all afternoon... took a while to configure it to my liking. I haven't decided if I'll stick it, I'm thinking not. It doesn't support keeping fixed sized empty frames (at least, I can't find how to support it), so I'm continually resizing and splitting, which I rarely do with ion.

It is prettier than ion though. :-D

Some bugs though.  ion next time I startx...

Dusty

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#16 2004-07-22 14:39:04

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Re: For those interested in minimalist window managers...

First post here (will become an Archer over the weekend) but I just have to say screen is the biz. I use it all the time when connecting to my home network from work - I've done everything from P2P downloads to kernel compiles, starting them off in the office, detaching, then picking them up again at home, or vice versa. I can't imagine running VNC again at this stage.

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#17 2004-07-31 21:14:14

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Re: For those interested in minimalist window managers...

anyone tried wmi 9 ?

why is this off-topic?


The impossible missions are the only ones which succeed.

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#18 2004-08-01 11:37:36

bleak
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Re: For those interested in minimalist window managers...

dp wrote:

anyone tried wmi 9 ?

why is this off-topic?

Yep, I'm using it and I love wmi. This new version is a great improvment over 8.

Cheers

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#19 2004-08-01 15:49:48

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Re: For those interested in minimalist window managers...

More stable? I'm going to try it out.

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#20 2004-08-01 15:56:35

dp
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Re: For those interested in minimalist window managers...

anyone to contribute the PKGBUILD, or should i make one myself? i plan to include it to extra, as it is one of the best wm's (at least from my eyes :-) )


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#21 2004-08-01 16:42:58

Paul
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Re: For those interested in minimalist window managers...

Please do dp, I (and a lot of others I'm sure) would appreciate it!

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#22 2004-08-01 17:05:23

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Re: For those interested in minimalist window managers...

actually, i have the package and PKGBUILD in my tur.

pkgname=wmi
pkgver=9
pkgrel=1
pkgdesc="Window Manager Improved, wmi is a lightweight wm for X11, which attempts to combine the best features of  LarsWM  ,  Ion  ,  evilwm  and  ratpoison  into one window manager."
url="http://wmi.berlios.de"
license=""
depends=(xfree86)
makedepends=()
conflicts=()
replaces=()
backup=()
install=
source=($pkgname-$pkgver.tar.gz)
md5sums=('99d906845f2100b769d14845f5137784')

build() {
  cd $startdir/src/$pkgname-$pkgver
  ./configure --prefix=/usr
  make || return 1
  make prefix=$startdir/pkg/usr install
}

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#23 2004-08-01 17:26:45

Paul
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Re: For those interested in minimalist window managers...

nice, thanks whatah!

edit: Just built it -- seems promising!

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#24 2004-08-01 23:40:16

Dusty
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Re: For those interested in minimalist window managers...

whatah wrote:

actually, i have the package and PKGBUILD in my tur.

You've got a couple duplicates in your TUR, wmi-8 and wmi-9 are both there, as are two versions of 3D-desktop... unfortunately, only the oldest seems to be picked up by packman. sad

EDIT: I've been using wmi for a few hours now and it hasn't crashed. I'm hooked, ion is gone. wink

Dusty

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#25 2004-08-02 04:20:09

Paul
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Re: For those interested in minimalist window managers...

big_smile Arch Linux theme for WMI 9 big_smile

Use the 'breeze' theme, and set the background to solid white

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