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I updated some pkgs (I don't think x-related) [except latest glibc?] and startx will not show up anything [even fvwm]. I ldd the Xorg executable and I think I have the libs it dynamically linked upon.
what's going on?
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I commented out the glx area and it now works. What should I do to make it work *WITH* GTX {as it used to}?
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Recompile the nvidia drivers.. if you are using them. If you search for glibc on the forum, you can read about other people that have had troubles.
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I upgraded glibc today. Reinstalled the nvidia drivers and it wouldn't work. Commenting the glx from xorg.conf made it work..
I tried installing nvidia again a few times and also at some point deleted ~/.nvidia-settings-rc.
I'm not sure what got it working, but it's working now (with glx). :?
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i got the exact same problem X doest start and bloats my desktop making it unusable
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I did re-install nvidia. it worked. then I Restarted and it doesn't work. [I also don't have /dev/ppp /dev/dsp (sound) etc]
this is very interesting, I bet most of this is because of glibc?
I mean what's the point in releasing glibc and all the packages are broken? Should the devs first update the related pkgs (the system pkgs at least) and then release them *with* glibc. I have no sound eventhough I have TONS of modules loaded and related to sound (never had so many auto-loaded). I have an sb live. [alsa with oss emulation]
Thanks for your time, I hope downgrading to previous glibc will work ok.
btw, apart from the first comments about how would be the best way to go with glibc update, I must say that an echo "if you have NVIDIA/ATI(?) drivers, just re-install the module with NVIDIA/ATI installer" is necessary in glibc pkg. if not add also that NOTHING WILL WORK OK except if you also upgrade all the other packages (pacman -Syu) without rebooting. (that implies that all these packages are up2date and linked against newest glibc.)
Now, I know that in NEWSLETTER it says devs will do their best to catch up on latest glibc. I know they do. [eventhough it's summer]. I just wonder why, they don't do it firstly and then comeup with glibc.
I'm not a disattisfied [with other stuff {becasue AL should be BLEEDING EDGE} I just think that this kind of problems [glibc] could be solved without any pain [and with 5 days delay?]
Wombat installer or somerwhere in the console it should say that:
"if you want to me 100% STABLE edit your /etc/pacman.conf and make sure you have release and not the others.."
or sth like that, so people that first install AL won't get the idea (not me but OSNEWS's Eugenia and others) that current is 100% stable.
They can stay with their release and there would be no problems.
That was my EURO
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Wombat installer or somerwhere in the console it should say that:
"if you want to me 100% STABLE edit your /etc/pacman.conf and make sure you have release and not the others.."
or sth like that, so people that first install AL won't get the idea (not me but OSNEWS's Eugenia and others) that current is 100% stable.
They can stay with their release and there would be no problems.
Actually, releases are NOT 100% stable. It's just a copy of the current tree of a certain time. There is always some problems in the system (and every other system too), no matter how small they are...
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Zep you seem to be a bit unlucky with this one - I had the same problem, but after I reinstalled Nvidia drivers, everything was cool. Oh, there was an issue with Pacman as well for a while, but a fix was available as soon as I looked for it.
I've always been able to fix my AL problems within a day (except surround sound!! !!%$£*&!!!!), hope you get those issues sorted matey.
Thom
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thanks guys for the info. but still downgrading didn't solve much. [I downgraded to the glibc version that is in AL 0.6 CD]
I re-install nvidia module. now I have x but no /dev/ppp (have to mknod it) no sound etc..
lsmod says:
bsd_comp 5760 0
ppp_async 10624 1
nvidia 4816660 12
8139too 22272 0
mii 4864 1 8139too
crc32 4352 1 8139too
snd_pcm_oss 51880 0
snd_mixer_oss 18304 1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_seq_midi 7072 0
snd_emu10k1_synth 7424 0
snd_emux_synth 37376 1 snd_emu10k1_synth
snd_seq_virmidi 6528 1 snd_emux_synth
snd_seq_midi_emul 7680 1 snd_emux_synth
snd_seq_oss 33664 0
snd_seq_midi_event 7040 3 snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_virmidi,snd_seq_oss
snd_seq 53776 8 snd_seq_midi,snd_emux_synth,snd_seq_virmidi,snd_seq_midi_emul,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_emu10k1 96008 1 snd_emu10k1_synth
snd_rawmidi 21540 3 snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_virmidi,snd_emu10k1
snd_pcm 91780 2 snd_pcm_oss,snd_emu10k1
snd_timer 23556 2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd_seq_device 6920 7 snd_seq_midi,snd_emu10k1_synth,snd_emux_synth,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_emu10k1,snd_rawmidi
snd_ac97_codec 68356 1 snd_emu10k1
snd_page_alloc 9480 2 snd_emu10k1,snd_pcm
snd_util_mem 3712 2 snd_emux_synth,snd_emu10k1
snd_hwdep 7684 2 snd_emux_synth,snd_emu10k1
snd 50276 16 snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_emux_synth,snd_seq_virmidi,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event,snd_seq,snd_emu10k1,snd_rawmidi,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_seq_device,snd_ac97_codec,snd_util_mem,snd_hwdep
soundcore 8160 1 snd
ppp_generic 27412 6 bsd_comp,ppp_async
slhc 6912 1 ppp_generic
nls_cp437 5760 2
vfat 12928 2
fat 41632 1 vfat
subfs 6912 3
this is interesting. so many and still no sound!!
afterall I get a fail in the alsa while booting
what should I do to make it work?
I'm not so sure that if I reboot x will be able to go up, or every time re-intsall nvidia to somehow fool someone and for X to work.
I really need some help in the hell
btw my pacman.conf has this:
NoUpgrade = etc/passwd etc/group etc/shadow etc/X11/XF86Config
NoUpgrade = etc/fstab etc/raidtab
NoUpgrade = etc/rc.conf etc/rc.local etc/inittab etc/profile
NoUpgrade = etc/modprobe.conf etc/modules.conf
NoUpgrade = etc/lilo.conf boot/grub/menu.lst
NoUpgrade = etc/pacman.conf
thanks for helping
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are you using udev? (you mknod blurb makes me think so)
if so then you should check your permissions as the file may have been updated.
The same goes for if you are using devfs.
It sounds stupid but check anyway.
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Wow, look at all those modules. I find it strange that all of those are loaded but you don't have snd-emu10k1 loaded, which (I believe) is your sound card's module.
I don't know about ppp, but my guess is that you are missing a specific module there too.
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Run alsaconf to create some aliases in /etc/modprobe.conf
It worked for me, I had the same problem.
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I added hotplug in my DAEMONS array
I have a lot of modules that I don't need
but I have /dev/ppp and /dev/dsp working now
I'll try hwd and I hope this will reduce the modules asked/and loaded in general.
btw. my MODULES array:
MODULES=(!usbserial !ide-scsi ppp_generic snd-emu10k1 snd-seq-oss snd-pcm-oss nvidia !ovcamchip !ov511)
and lsmod says this:
Module Size Used by
bsd_comp 5760 0
ppp_async 10624 1
ohci_hcd 20484 0
8139cp 18304 0
emu10k1_gp 2944 0
gameport 3968 1 emu10k1_gp
parport_pc 22976 0
parport 36808 1 parport_pc
pci_hotplug 11524 0
joydev 8640 0
tsdev 6016 0
evdev 7936 0
8139too 22272 0
mii 4864 2 8139cp,8139too
crc32 4352 2 8139cp,8139too
nvidia 4816660 12
snd_pcm_oss 51880 0
snd_mixer_oss 18304 1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_seq_midi 7072 0
snd_emu10k1_synth 7424 0
snd_emux_synth 37376 1 snd_emu10k1_synth
snd_seq_virmidi 6528 1 snd_emux_synth
snd_seq_midi_emul 7680 1 snd_emux_synth
snd_seq_oss 33664 0
snd_seq_midi_event 7040 3 snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_virmidi,snd_seq_oss
snd_seq 53776 8 snd_seq_midi,snd_emux_synth,snd_seq_virmidi,snd_seq_midi_emul,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_emu10k1 96008 2 snd_emu10k1_synth
snd_rawmidi 21540 3 snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_virmidi,snd_emu10k1
snd_pcm 91780 2 snd_pcm_oss,snd_emu10k1
snd_timer 23556 2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd_seq_device 6920 7 snd_seq_midi,snd_emu10k1_synth,snd_emux_synth,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_emu10k1,snd_rawmidi
snd_ac97_codec 68356 1 snd_emu10k1
snd_page_alloc 9480 2 snd_emu10k1,snd_pcm
snd_util_mem 3712 2 snd_emux_synth,snd_emu10k1
snd_hwdep 7684 2 snd_emux_synth,snd_emu10k1
snd 50276 18 snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_emux_synth,snd_seq_virmidi,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event,snd_seq,snd_emu10k1,snd_rawmidi,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_seq_device,snd_ac97_codec,snd_util_mem,snd_hwdep
soundcore 8160 1 snd
ppp_generic 27412 6 bsd_comp,ppp_async
slhc 6912 1 ppp_generic
nls_cp437 5760 2
vfat 12928 2
fat 41632 1 vfat
subfs 6912 3
I'm using latest stuff (non-NTPL) and UDEV
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so hotplug is necessary these days?
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