Arch influenced distros?

lseubert · 2009-06-23 11:06:49

What are the Arch influenced distros? Not distros necessarily based directly in some way upon Arch Linux, but influenced by Arch Linux?

For example, Alpine Linux uses the Arch build system. Does anybody know of other distros that are "inspired" by Arch in a similar fashion?

Frugalware comes to mind, because it uses pacman. But it seems that pacman-g2 is a fork of an early beta-release of what is now pacman 3.x. Is this enough to meet the standard of "Arch influenced" distro?

If folks can make a good case in this thread for a distro being influenced by Arch, I'll add it to the appropriate section on the Arch-based Distros wikipage.

Thanks everyone.

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fukawi2 · 2009-06-23 12:23:10

EDIT: nvm

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PJ · 2009-06-23 13:39:13

These 2 comes to my mind:

Enlisy
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=34051
http://enlisy.com/

Rubix Linux
http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=rubix
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=15693

lseubert · 2009-06-23 13:50:59

PJ wrote:

These 2 comes to my mind:
Enlisy
Rubix Linux

Thanks PJ. However, I looked both of them up, and neither one is presently active. Enlisy's last release was two years ago, and it looks like Rubix last released over three years ago. DistroWatch lists it as discontinued.

I am a bit reluctant to add either of them to the Discontinued Distros section of the Arch-based Distros wikipage. That section is already quite cluttered with distros that were directly based upon Arch.

But thanks for taking the time to look up this information. I appreciate your help.

PJ · 2009-06-23 17:49:02

lseubert wrote:

But thanks for taking the time to look up this information. I appreciate your help.

Well, I didn't actually spend that much time looking up these two, it was more stuff that I remembered from the past years that I have been a regular visitor of this forum.

I was woundering if there should be a category for custom repositories? I mean that is IMHO somthing more in the spirit of Arch Linux since Arch is a meta-distribution. If that's the case I think ArchVDR might be a good candidate to be included in that kind of category.

ArchVDR
http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/archvdr/

Not really sure about this but after reading a bit more it seems to be a more integrated qt desktop environment on top of arch linux:
eth-os
http://eth-os.org/
http://code.google.com/p/eth-os/

Anonymo · 2009-06-23 19:35:27

Rubix was an awesome distro based on Slackware. I used it and still have the source files and install cd's backed to a couple DVDs. Used pacman, had awesome init and 3 kernels to work with, one which was a secure server kernel. Joshua, the creator of the distro, was nice and kept everything stable but up to date.

lseubert · 2009-06-24 18:35:11

PJ wrote:

I was woundering if there should be a category for custom repositories? I mean that is IMHO somthing more in the spirit of Arch Linux since Arch is a meta-distribution. If that's the case I think ArchVDR might be a good candidate to be included in that kind of category.
ArchVDR
http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/archvdr/

Actually, I think custom repositories deserve an entire wikipage of their own. (Guess I have another wikipage to work on now ;-)

That said, what is the difference between a custom repository and an Arch-based distro? For most Linux distros, this is pretty easy to figure out. But as you rightly point out, Arch is more of a meta-distribution. You install a very small core set of packages, and then build your own distro on top of them. Thus, 'extra' and 'community' are, technically, custom repositories and only 'core' is the "One, True Arch Linux" - to get pedantic about it.

But seriously, what distinguishes an Arch distro from a custom repository? Where do extra, testing, and community belong in the grand scheme of things? What about kde-mod and Chakra? What about something like 'http://repo.archlinux.fr/', which is the repository for yaourt, among other things?

Also, on the Arch-based Distros wikipage, I listed larch and archiso-live as meta-distros, because they are used to build a custom install .iso or .img file. But given your point that Arch itself is really a meta-distro, should I use some other word to describe larch and archiso-live?

PJ wrote:

Not really sure about this but after reading a bit more it seems to be a more integrated qt desktop environment on top of arch linux:
eth-os
http://eth-os.org/
http://code.google.com/p/eth-os/

To me, this seems to be a custom repository, but it is somewhat hard to tell. They haven't actually released anything yet, so there isn't anything to evaluate right now. I'll keep an eye on it though, and write it up upon release of something official.

PJ · 2009-06-24 19:04:31

lseubert wrote:

That said, what is the difference between a custom repository and an Arch-based distro? For most Linux distros, this is pretty easy to figure out. But as you rightly point out, Arch is more of a meta-distribution. You install a very small core set of packages, and then build your own distro on top of them. Thus, 'extra' and 'community' are, technically, custom repositories and only 'core' is the "One, True Arch Linux" - to get pedantic about it.
But seriously, what distinguishes an Arch distro from a custom repository? Where do extra, testing, and community belong in the grand scheme of things? What about kde-mod and Chakra? What about something like 'http://repo.archlinux.fr/', which is the repository for yaourt, among other things?

I don't have an answer for that and it's indeed an interesting question.

lseubert wrote:

Also, on the Arch-based Distros wikipage, I listed larch and archiso-live as meta-distros, because they are used to build a custom install .iso or .img file. But given your point that Arch itself is really a meta-distro, should I use some other word to describe larch and archiso-live?

Well, both larch and archiso-live are meta-distributions and are listed on a page for Arch based distros, I don't think it can be any more clear. I mean both are based on Arch and are meta-distributions. It doesn't matter that Arch is a meta-distribution in itself.

PJ · 2009-06-24 19:39:59

lseubert wrote:

Actually, I think custom repositories deserve an entire wikipage of their own. (Guess I have another wikipage to work on now ;-)

I guess this might be interesting then:
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Uno … positories

lseubert · 2009-06-25 11:26:32

PJ wrote:

I guess this might be interesting then:
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Uno … positories

Thanks for pointing this out. Before writing the post above, I did run a search on ArchWiki, looking for a page on custom repositories, but I didn't turn anything up. Obviously I wasn't creative enough in using various search terms.

Thanks. Now I don't have to create a new page - it is already done. I might go through and check that all those repositories are active, although that page looks to be updated rather frequently.

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noitroi · 2009-07-13 01:09:41

lseubert wrote:

PJ wrote:
These 2 comes to my mind:
Enlisy
Rubix Linux
Thanks PJ. However, I looked both of them up, and neither one is presently active. Enlisy's last release was two years ago, and it looks like Rubix last released over three years ago. DistroWatch lists it as discontinued.
I am a bit reluctant to add either of them to the Discontinued Distros section of the Arch-based Distros wikipage. That section is already quite cluttered with distros that were directly based upon Arch.
But thanks for taking the time to look up this information. I appreciate your help.

If you check out our subversion repo you'll will proparbly notice that we're working
on enlisy, almost every single day. And the latest release right now (released on July 9th) is: Enlisy 09.1 Rexited Beta1
that you can find here: http://ftp.se.linux.org/Linux/distribut … -beta1.iso

Its almost finished, but we've have some rough edges to polish before we can release the RTM.

Thanks
Jens E (noxxik) - Developer of the linux-distribution Enlisy.

lseubert · 2009-07-25 15:10:38

noitroi wrote:

If you check out our subversion repo you'll will proparbly notice that we're working
on enlisy, almost every single day. And the latest release right now (released on July 9th) is: Enlisy 09.1 Rexited Beta1
that you can find here: http://ftp.se.linux.org/Linux/distribut … -beta1.iso
Its almost finished, but we've have some rough edges to polish before we can release the RTM.
Thanks
Jens E (noxxik) - Developer of the linux-distribution Enlisy.

I added Enlisy to the "Arch Inspired Distributions" section of the wikipage, "Arch-based Distros.

Dieter@be · 2009-07-25 18:54:25

don't forget the amazing borderless linux! the distribution that turns arch into something truly lightweight, simple and stable.

(cough)

lseubert · 2009-07-29 11:28:14

Dieter@be wrote:

don't forget the amazing borderless linux! the distribution that turns arch into something truly lightweight, simple and stable.
(cough)

Already got it covered under discontinued distributions. Check it out.

<cough> indeed

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