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#1 2009-12-09 14:11:12

Tonize
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Best network backup solution for arch ?

Hey guys, im still kinda new on Arch but i'm looking for the best network backup solution on archlinux... I heard of Bacula and Amanda, tried to install both but didn't succeed. I was wondering at the same time if you would have an "howto" for Amanda et Bacula. I search on google but didn't find anything...

Let me know, and thanks a lot !

- Tonize.

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#2 2009-12-09 14:15:29

ralvez
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Re: Best network backup solution for arch ?

Take a look here, see if it works: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Backup_Programs
I personally use DirSynchPro and a small crontab script.

R.

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#3 2009-12-09 14:23:25

kjon
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Re: Best network backup solution for arch ?

tar+ssh rocks


They say that if you play a Win cd backward you hear satanic messages. That's nothing! 'cause if you play it forwards, it installs windows.

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#4 2009-12-09 16:52:55

zenlord
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Re: Best network backup solution for arch ?

Bacula is very flexible. We hired a debian-admin to install our server at our (small) office and he opted to use bacula for backups because its stability and flexibility: backup to different media, to different locations, different file sets, different modi (incremental, differential, full), etc.

It's now running for over 2 years IIRC in a very simple way: only 1 fileset, 1 destination, 1 medium and monthly schedule (daily incremental, weekly differential and monthly full). Only time I had problems with it, was because second hand tape drive failed on me. Solution: by a new tapedrive and in the mean time: just change to another destination. It's that simple.

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#5 2009-12-09 22:09:19

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Re: Best network backup solution for arch ?

IMHO you can't beat backing up to a format that is simple and non-specific - such as tar or a standard file system. To restore from a Bacula backup in a total failure situation, you have to go through the whole process of reinstalling bacula and configuring it again. Don't forget your bacula bootstrap files!

Personally I use a mixture of Synbak and rsync-backup
http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=29158

pgsql-backup and mysql-backup for databases. These are run by cron just before Synbak / rsync-backup.
http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=26779
http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=26778

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#6 2009-12-10 14:11:53

Tonize
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Re: Best network backup solution for arch ?

Bacula seems pretty nice indeed but I think that I will try Rsync just to test it...

Edit : Nvm, just found one. Thanks !

- Tonize.

Last edited by Tonize (2009-12-10 14:13:43)

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#7 2009-12-10 15:37:36

rine
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Re: Best network backup solution for arch ?

bacula is pretty powerful and quite easy to use WHEN you're into it. It took me quite some time to learn it, but now I'm satisfied. Here is a step-by-step doc http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=71367

Last edited by rine (2009-12-10 15:37:58)

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#8 2009-12-11 22:11:25

rwd
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Re: Best network backup solution for arch ?

Tonize wrote:

Hey guys, im still kinda new on Arch but i'm looking for the best network backup solution on archlinux...

'Best' depends on your requirements/priorities. Is it for a company, or a home network? Do you mean lan or backup to some cloud-based service? Do you want a gui or is commandline good enough? encryption? Etc.

Anyway for my home network I chose rdiff-backup. My requirements were:

- tried and trusted, widely used and with active development
- no special backup file formats, so that in worst case I can just copy files by hand.
- incremental backups (reverse differentials)
- fairly easy to configure
- good documentation
- commandline so it works from a headless server

Last edited by rwd (2009-12-11 22:31:55)

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#9 2009-12-12 01:34:02

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Re: Best network backup solution for arch ?

Most of my files live on an OpenSolaris fileserver. For backups I just rsync my data to an external usb based zfs pool. Takes about 4 minutes to run and thanks to snapshots on the zpool I have daily backups going back 4 months. OpenSolaris is nice but I would rather be running Linux. Looking forward to BTRFS reaching the stage where it is stable.

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#10 2009-12-12 08:10:01

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Re: Best network backup solution for arch ?

mikesd wrote:

Most of my files live on an OpenSolaris fileserver. For backups I just rsync my data to an external usb based zfs pool. Takes about 4 minutes to run and thanks to snapshots on the zpool I have daily backups going back 4 months. OpenSolaris is nice but I would rather be running Linux. Looking forward to BTRFS reaching the stage where it is stable.

Day 1:
rsync -av /home/ /mnt/usb/daily.0

Day 2:
cp -al /mnt/usb/daily.1
rsync -av /home/ /mnt/usb/daily.0

Day 3:
mv /mnt/usb/daily.1 /mnt/usb/daily.2
cp -al /mnt/usb/daily.1
rsync -av /home/ /mnt/usb/daily.0

Day 4:
mv /mnt/usb/daily.2 /mnt/usb/daily.3
mv /mnt/usb/daily.1 /mnt/usb/daily.2
cp -al /mnt/usb/daily.1
rsync -av /home/ /mnt/usb/daily.0

etc etc.... Uses hard-links to be very space efficient smile

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#11 2009-12-13 11:02:22

jowilkin
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Re: Best network backup solution for arch ?

rsnapshot will automate the process you describe fukawi, I use it at work and it runs great.

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#12 2009-12-13 12:30:42

AngryKoala
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Re: Best network backup solution for arch ?

cant you just rsync -a --delete /currrent/ /daily.1/    to save space and disk writes?

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#13 2009-12-14 07:16:47

mikesd
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Re: Best network backup solution for arch ?

jowilkin wrote:

rsnapshot will automate the process you describe fukawi, I use it at work and it runs great.

Yes, I have looked at rsnapshot before but for some reason I didn't use it. It did look good though.

@fukawi2

Yeah I did read through this but never implemented it. Using ZFS is easier for me as my backup script is basically two commands and has all the benefits of the rsnapshot method. Also, ZFS snapshots are read only. BTRFS snapshots are not read only by default (I think? ) but can be set read only at creation time. I like the fact that my snapshots are read only.

I also snapshot my data drive with history going back 12 months available at any time. After using ZFS for the best part of a year I don't think I could go back to a non snapshot file system for a file server.

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#14 2009-12-14 11:46:23

Aedit
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Re: Best network backup solution for arch ?

+1 for rsnapshot -- it's a nice implementation of the "rsync rotating snapshots with hardlinking" idea described on Mike Rubel's site which mikesd linked to.

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