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#226 2010-07-13 00:56:25

ablepharus
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Re: jumanji - a web browser

May he implemented that nice feature to bother you xD

Have you tried to add a new user without any settings?

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#227 2010-07-13 01:03:11

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Re: jumanji - a web browser

I just realized what it is.

my i686 - which shows nice black background is using the AUR version which is 20100705-1

and my x64 machine is using the 20100710-1 which is newer, so I guess neldoreth put in that pink color between those 2 versions. Now if I can only find out which color field sets that, I should be good.

Off to looking into the config,h


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#228 2010-07-13 01:04:38

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Re: jumanji - a web browser

I think you can diff the sources.

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#229 2010-07-13 01:32:09

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Re: jumanji - a web browser

Thanks for the tip i won't update now!   


And a possibility to change the appearance would be very cool.

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#230 2010-07-13 03:24:06

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Re: jumanji - a web browser

http://git.pwmt.org/?p=jumanji.git;a=co … fd2101be37
you're my hero. thanks !

edit: BTW, I believe you are aware about this but hints are broken in latest git

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#231 2010-07-13 06:08:29

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Re: jumanji - a web browser

Hello,

Inxsible wrote:

On the contrary the i686 shows black and x64 shows pink.

I guess you should update just both installations or the configuration files.

Best regards


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#232 2010-07-13 06:23:18

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Re: jumanji - a web browser

neldoreth wrote:

Hello,

Inxsible wrote:

On the contrary the i686 shows black and x64 shows pink.

I guess you should update just both installations or the configuration files.

Best regards

I see you uploaded 20100713. Thanks. Finally got rid of the pink !!

EDIT : The AUR package still show 20100705-1 as the version number, which is clyde cannot see that an upgrade is available. neldoreth, would you be so kind to update the pkgver when you upgrade?

Thanks.

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#233 2010-07-13 06:40:18

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Re: jumanji - a web browser

bangkok_manouel wrote:

edit: BTW, I believe you are aware about this but hints are broken in latest git

I can confirm. f doesnt work but F still works.


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#234 2010-07-13 06:44:47

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Re: jumanji - a web browser

> neldoreth, would you be so kind to update the pkgver when you upgrade?
+2
And post a short comment so that folks who install manually are notified about the new version.

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#235 2010-07-13 06:58:13

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Re: jumanji - a web browser

Hello,

karol wrote:

And post a short comment so that folks who install manually are notified about the new version.

So I would nearly have to upgrade the git package everyday and I have to admit, I am too lazy for that and I do not think this makes any sense.
Jumanji is under heavy development right now, so it is better to pull the repository in a while and later on there will be normal versions and when
those occur I will post about it like I did for zathura.

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#236 2010-07-13 07:20:22

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> So I would nearly have to upgrade the git package everyday and I have to admit, I am too lazy for that and I do not think this makes any sense.
I knew that you'd point that out ;P

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#237 2010-07-13 08:12:20

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Re: jumanji - a web browser

bernarcher wrote:

This <tab> trick is interesting. VimNav hinting in Jumanji really does work this way but I would never have thought of this one. (How did you find out?)

I've started my 'bug searching and solution giving' system build into my hands. cool

bernarcher wrote:

Now to the main question of all: Why does it do so at all? (And don't answer 42!) I have no idea yet but eventually I might find out. So far I was planning to spend some weekend's spare time to probably get VimNav better integrated in Jumanji (hopefully).

The reason for this is very simple.
Because the keys are defined in the JS they are active only for the 'window'-element. This means that the 'window'element thus the page itself needs to have focus.
Because jumanji give per default the tab the focus you have to change it using <tab>. Otherwise the JS doesn't recognize the key pressing and the internal mapping of jumanji react which doesn't find the needed functions thus can't load the hints.

I've thought about integrate VimNav into the hinting-script of jumanji but at the moment I'm working on some other projects which is why I don't have enough time for it.
It would be great if you could integrate VimNav into jumanji.


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#238 2010-07-13 09:32:42

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Re: jumanji - a web browser

Andrwe wrote:

Because the keys are defined in the JS they are active only for the 'window'-element. This means that the 'window'element thus the page itself needs to have focus.
Because jumanji give per default the tab the focus you have to change it using <tab>. Otherwise the JS doesn't recognize the key pressing and the internal mapping of jumanji react which doesn't find the needed functions thus can't load the hints.

Thank you, Andrwe, this makes the inner workings of jumanji (and webkit) clearer. Unfortunately it is nothing I could do about from inside a user script.

As far as I understand from skimming the jumanji source I could try to provide same named functions jumanji uses to call in the input_hinting_mode script. But it is not clear whether this would work because VimNav needs proper initialization before being able to navigate and the interface might not be compatible enough.

The other - and probably generally useful - way would be another jumanji option (preferably in jumanjirc) where the initial focus could be defaulted to the page instead the associated tab. This would guarantee initialization and independent user scripts use as soon as webkit recognizes the page being loaded.

Any thoughts about this?


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#239 2010-07-13 09:54:09

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Re: jumanji - a web browser

@neldoreth

what are your plans regarding the single_instance branch? is it going to receive the same love as master? IMO, jumanji should not allow new windows... or please, please, please, make that configurable. thanks smile

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#240 2010-07-13 10:04:38

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Re: jumanji - a web browser

@bernarcher
I've already tried to modify VimNav to provide the  functions needed by jumanji but that doesn't work because it is written as standalone script.
The only option I can see so far is to rewrite the jumanji script so it provides the same functionality concerning hinting as VimNav. IMO this would be the best way because most of the functions provided by VimNav such as scrolling and so on aren't needed because jumanji already provides them.

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#241 2010-07-13 12:01:56

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Re: jumanji - a web browser

neldoreth wrote:

Hello,

karol wrote:

And post a short comment so that folks who install manually are notified about the new version.

So I would nearly have to upgrade the git package everyday and I have to admit, I am too lazy for that and I do not think this makes any sense.
Jumanji is under heavy development right now, so it is better to pull the repository in a while and later on there will be normal versions and when
those occur I will post about it like I did for zathura.

Best regards

Seems fair enough. I can live with that.


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#242 2010-07-13 12:02:44

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Re: jumanji - a web browser

bangkok_manouel wrote:

@neldoreth

what are your plans regarding the single_instance branch? is it going to receive the same love as master? IMO, jumanji should not allow new windows... or please, please, please, make that configurable. thanks smile

and I would vote a yes on that as well.


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#243 2010-07-14 00:52:55

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Re: jumanji - a web browser

Just added a wiki page for jumanji

Please check for errors and correct them as necessary. Also, I haven't added everything to the page, so if you find something that could be useful to others, please add it to the page


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#244 2010-07-14 00:57:50

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Edit: Sorry, forgot to update my build.
Carry on.

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#245 2010-07-14 09:22:41

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Re: jumanji - a web browser

[drooling]new hinting branch[/drooling]

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#246 2010-07-14 09:35:20

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Re: jumanji - a web browser

@Inxsible
Does gh,gH,gf and gF work in default configuration or did you set them in your rc?
Because for me these keybindings doesn't work.


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#247 2010-07-14 09:49:36

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@ Andrwe
They do in the latest build.

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#248 2010-07-14 10:02:36

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Re: jumanji - a web browser

I don't know if this is caused by jumanji, but if i open amazon.com  my cpu usage goes up to 100% (at just one of the two cores)  and jumanji doesn't react anymore.

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#249 2010-07-14 10:23:45

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Re: jumanji - a web browser

@karol
Just updated and it works, thanks. smile


I love this browser. The only reason why I also have midori is that jumanji doesn't have session support at the moment.


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#250 2010-07-14 13:59:13

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Re: jumanji - a web browser

ablepharus wrote:

I don't know if this is caused by jumanji, but if i open amazon.com  my cpu usage goes up to 100% (at just one of the two cores)  and jumanji doesn't react anymore.

Same here. One of my three cpu cores goes up to 100% on various pages. Seems like it happens on websites with alot of pictures for me.

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