[Solved] Ethernet passwords and netcfg

Ekinox · 2010-07-14 14:10:24

Hello,

I have an Internet connection which uses an ethernet "router" from Orange (a little box which does I-don't-know-what). I am supposed to use a CD that was packaged with the "router". However, it is not linux-compatible, and works only with W*nd*ws and M*c. So I would like to be able to connect using netcfg. However, I don't know which options I should use to be able to connect : I have an username and a password, but I don't know where I should put them for netcfg to work.

Thanks in advance,
Ekinox

PS : Please answer quickly, I will have problems with Internet from tomorrow if I don't have the answer ! Thank you !

PPS : Sorry if my english isn't perfect (what a cool euphemism ), I am french.

Last edited by Ekinox (2010-07-15 08:06:37)

dunz0r · 2010-07-15 04:55:36

Connect to the same adress as your gateway unless the manual for your router/modem/whatever states otherwise.

karol · 2010-07-15 05:26:06

If you feel more comfortable speaking French http://archlinux.fr/

Is it a router or a USB modem? Can you give us the name (should be written on the box somewhere). If it's an Ethernet router, no drivers may be necessary.

Ekinox · 2010-07-15 06:47:36

dunz0r > Thank you, in fact the manual doesn't say anything, but instead provides a CD into which we have to put the usernames and password noticed in the notice.

karol > For archlinuxfr, I knew, but indeed I am actually not with that problem, but I will go in half an hour to this other house. And then if I don't have Internet using linux, I will have to install their CD on my w*nd*ws (yes, I know ...), and I don't want it because it's full of ininteresting programs. So I had to have an answer quickly, and archlinuxfr's forums seemed to be less reactive than those ones. <mode mylife="off" />
For the connection, it is an ethernet/usb router, it offers the two possibilities. Indeed, I cannot say you the router name (it isn't at my house, but at one I will go this morning). However, I know it is a high-speed router (and indeed Orange sometimes calls it an high-speed modem, so I don't really know if it is truly a router).

So, if I get no more answers, I will try to connect without any password, hoping it will work. If I get answers, then I will see.
However, I will say you if it worked or not

Thank you,
Ekinox

Inxsible · 2010-07-15 06:51:09

Ekinox wrote:

dunz0r > Thank you, in fact the manual doesn't say anything, but instead provides a CD into which we have to put the usernames and password noticed in the notice.
karol > For archlinuxfr, I knew, but indeed I am actually not with that problem, but I will go in half an hour to this other house. And then if I don't have Internet using linux, I will have to install their CD on my w*nd*ws (yes, I know ...), and I don't want it because it's full of ininteresting programs. So I had to have an answer quickly, and archlinuxfr's forums seemed to be less reactive than those ones. <mode mylife="off" />
For the connection, it is an ethernet/usb router, it offers the two possibilities. Indeed, I cannot say you the router name (it isn't at my house, but at one I will go this morning). However, I know it is a high-speed router (and indeed Orange sometimes calls it an high-speed modem, so I don't really know if it is truly a router).
So, if I get no more answers, I will try to connect without any password, hoping it will work. If I get answers, then I will see.
However, I will say you if it worked or not
Thank you,
Ekinox

Or you can see what it is at the other house, come back to your current house. let us know what it is, hopefully someone will be able to answer and then you can try to setup the internet connection at the other house. Easy enough?

Even I am confused

Ekinox · 2010-07-15 07:05:29

There are about 7 hours to go from one house to the other, so I think I won't be able ...
Indeed, it is at my grandparents' house there will be the problem, as at my house there is a simple box on which I may connect using ethernet of wi-fi (and it works).

Finally, I think the question would also be : How can netcfg work if there is no router ? Because I believe that the box provided by Orange doesn't do anything. They provided the username and password (I may access them, and I suppose they will be needed). So, if I didn't manage to connect via the "router", maybe I would be able to connect without it ? The problem is that netcfg doesn't seem to allow putting usernames and passwords in a file in /etc/network.d ... So I would like to know how to do.

Thank you,
Ekinox

karol · 2010-07-15 07:15:34

"that the box provided by Orange"
Oh boy ...
If it's an USB modem (which I believe it is) you may have a problem, because you will need linux drivers for that thing. I can't help you with that as I don't even know the name of said router / modem.

> a simple box on which I may connect using ethernet of wi-fi (and it works)
It's a router. Get yourself one - you can configure it in 5 mins. I also got a modem from Orange but I'm on linux so I bought a cheap router and I am happy: I can connect many computers at the same time, it has wi-fi and is trivial to configure.

BTW: apart from username and password you need VPI and ,VCI. VPI=0,VCI=35 work here in Orange Freedom.

> How can netcfg work if there is no router ?
I think ADSL modems need ppp (a program for modems) to work.

Ekinox · 2010-07-15 07:55:21

"If it's an USB modem (which I believe it is) you may have a problem, because you will need linux drivers for that thing."
I am able to connect via USB and via Ethernet, so I think I will connect via Ethernet if it causes less problems.

"It's a router. Get yourself one - you can configure it in 5 mins. I also got a modem from Orange but I'm on linux so I bought a cheap router and I am happy: I can connect many computers at the same time, it has wi-fi and is trivial to configure."
When you say trivial to configure, will I have to enter username/password/VPI/VCI ?

"I think ADSL modems need ppp (a program for modems) to work."
How may I configure this program ?

Thank you for your answers, and please a (maybe) last effort

karol · 2010-07-15 08:04:19

> When you say trivial to configure, will I have to enter username/password/VPI/VCI ?
I am talking about an ADSL router - you connect you phone line to the router and the router to your computer(s) via ethernet / wifi.
You go to a webpage like http://192.168.1.1 enter the password and login, set the correct VPI and VCI wait a bit for it to connect et voilà!

>> I think ADSL modems need ppp (a program for modems) to work."
> How may I configure this program ?
I have no idea, check the manpage.

Ekinox · 2010-07-15 08:06:17

Thank you so much, I will try with a router, and if it doesn't work with ppp
So I believe it's solved

karol · 2010-07-15 08:09:33

> So I believe it's solved
Umm, OK. Have fun.

Ekinox · 2010-07-15 17:03:57

Solved !
For those who would like to make the same working (even without another router), some scripts provided with PPP to download (package rp-pppoe) :

# pppoe-setup
(Answer to all questions ; note that for french Orange no need to add @orange.fr after the identifier)
# pppoe-start

And to kill the connection :

# pppoe-stop

Indeed, it is simpler than configuring a router.

Thank you to all (especially karol),
Ekinox

karol · 2010-07-15 17:06:47

Glad you got it working and thanks for the solution.

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