Problem with installation on older (2003) tabletpc.

m_abs · 2009-08-16 14:24:06

I'm attempting to install Archlinux on my HP/Compaq TC1000 but I can't boot the install cd on this hardware.

The system boots up untill it attemps to start /bin/run-init and fails with a kernel error because it can't find /bin/run-init.

How do I get around this problem? I've tried booting with the "Legacy IDE, No SATA" option.

djszapi · 2009-08-16 22:40:23

Welcome to the forum, m_abs!

With which Image did you try to boot ? Did you try every booting facility from the CD ? Did you check the downloaded image/iso with md5sum checking ?

m_abs · 2009-08-19 19:45:09

Thanks

I tried the netinstall iso
ftp://ftp.archlinux.org/iso/2009.08/arc … so.torrent
and the core iso
ftp://ftp.archlinux.org/iso/2009.08/arc … so.torrent

I tried both normal start up and the "Legacy IDE, No SATA" options on both images.

Both images was burn with k3b checking the burned data.

m_abs · 2009-08-19 19:48:02

PS. the device doesn't seem to be able to boot from USB, this was the first thing I tried.

djszapi · 2009-08-19 23:12:57

Did you try it with earlier release too, 2009.02 ?

m_abs · 2009-08-20 19:51:05

I just tried 2009.02, exactly the same problem.

m_abs · 2009-08-23 14:05:47

I got it booting with the archboot-image.

But I have another problem which belong to another thread.

brain0 · 2009-08-24 11:03:47

m_abs wrote:

The system boots up untill it attemps to start /bin/run-init and fails with a kernel error because it can't find /bin/run-init.

Can you boot again and make a picture of the contents of the screen? Or even better, can you append "vga=0x318" to the kernel commandline, then boot and make a picture (more info will be visible on screen then).

How do I get around this problem? I've tried booting with the "Legacy IDE, No SATA" option.

This option shouldn't be necessary for anyone anymore as far as I know.

DePingus · 2010-08-26 19:15:12

kernelpanic
Sorry for the crappy cellphone pic.

I know what you're thinking...I'm not m_abs!
But I ran into this exact some problem trying to boot the Arch installer from a USB on my TC1000.
The image I'm using is archlinux-2009.02-core-i686.iso

A little info on the TC1000. It has a Transmeta Crusoe TM8500 995MHz CPU and Nvideo GeForce2 Go video.
I found a year and half old post of someone asking for help with Xorg on this thing. So I assume Arch CAN be installed.
Unfortunately that poster never came back tot he forums.

EDIT:
Tested the TC1000 with Slitaz off the USB. Ran ok.
Also shrank that pic for you.

Last edited by DePingus (2010-08-26 20:02:04)

karol · 2010-08-26 19:20:29

Please resize and post smaller pic.
The last lines are

/bin/run-init: opening console: No such file or directory
Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!

DePingus · 2010-08-27 01:07:21

Ok. So I got home, and downloaded the latest version of Arch (2010.05), used dd to write it to the USB drive (at work I was stuck with Windows methods).

This time its NOT frozen with a kernel panic and I have different error.

I'll just type the last few lines...if you really need a picture ask and I'll post one.

:: Mounting root (aufs) filesystem
aufs 2-standalone.tree-33-20100426
:: Mounting images
::: Binding /bootmnt to /new_root/bootmnt
ERROR: Root device mounted successfully, but /sbin/init does not exist.
Bailing out, you are on your own. Good luck.

/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
[ramfs /]#

The last line is actually a prompt that lets me enter commands.

Any ideas?

Last edited by DePingus (2010-08-27 01:07:51)

karol · 2010-08-27 01:38:18

Are you 100% sure that processor is i686? Slitaz can boot "older" cpus, Arch is for i686 and above.

http://www.techeye.net/software/patch-t … -full-i686
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php … 46#p786446

Last edited by karol (2010-08-27 01:58:59)

DePingus · 2010-08-27 01:57:35

No. I'm not 100% sure. Everything I find on the web says that its fully x86 compatible. I'm not sure what that means. Here's some info on the CPU.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transmeta_Crusoe
http://arstechnica.com/old/content/2000/01/crusoe.ars/2

I've come across a few posts from early 2009 that say they have Arch running. Did Arch support other cpu architectures back then?

EDIT:
The wiki says that it requires a CPU with "cmov instruction".
At the ramfs prompt I did a "cat /proc/cpuinfo" and at under flags I see cmov as a flag. I don't see anything else that tells me if its i686 or not.

Last edited by DePingus (2010-08-27 02:06:26)

karol · 2010-08-27 02:01:13

DePingus wrote:

No. I'm not 100% sure. Everything I find on the web says that its fully x86 compatible. I'm not sure what that means. Here's some info on the CPU.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transmeta_Crusoe
http://arstechnica.com/old/content/2000/01/crusoe.ars/2
I've come across a few posts from early 2009 that say they have Arch running. Did Arch support other cpu architectures back then?

Read the links I posted. Transmeta did some funny things with the instructions and it's hard to say whether their processors are "real" i686 - in a sense they are, but in another sense they're not.
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php … 973#p45973

I couldn't find an answer, whether your cpu is real i686 or not. I think it's only some 30 minutes of googling away, but I'm too lazy / busy to do that ;P

Edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_QQchhMqHo :-)

Last edited by karol (2010-08-27 02:17:43)

DePingus · 2010-08-27 02:28:02

We found the answers!!!
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php? … 78#p784978
http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=38661

Apparently the Crusoe is sorta i686! It needs a custom kernel thats in the AUR of all places (right under my nose)!
Now I need to figure out how to apply this to the installer's kernel. OR...maybe i'll take this opportunity to learn a new distro (lately I feel like I'm hooked on Arch).

Thanks a lot for your help!

EDIT:
Cross posted; so changed "I found the answers" to "WE found the answers".
Thanks again!

Last edited by DePingus (2010-08-27 02:32:44)

Inxsible · 2010-08-27 02:32:47

This thread was exactly a year and 2 days old when you posted. Seeing that Arch is a rolling release, and that in that year 3 different snapshots ISOs were released, it is highly unlikely that everything would have been the same for the OP and you DePingus. Posting in the same thread makes for a lot of disjointed information because what was relevant a year ago might not be anymore.

Please start new threads for issues that you have and reference older/similar threads to let others know what you have tried out, especially when you know that you are not m_abs.

Closing...

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Problem with installation on older (2003) tabletpc.

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