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#1 2011-09-18 22:18:41

Jauch
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Can't start wireless after install

Hi,

I was having problems with network (see https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=125656). As I wasn't able to find a solution, I'm trying to install arch linux again.
I installed ok but can't see to start wireless. When I try to up the wlan0, i have this message:

SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory

I search for this and the most probable cause found was that the firmware for my ethernet card is missing.
When I am in the installer, I can start wireless.

So, AGAIN, must be a configuration problem. Something that I am not loading or starting at the initialization.

My ethernet card is a intel 82566DC2.
The driver seems to be the e1000e.

If I do lsmod, I see it.

Can someone help me with this?

Thanks smile

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#2 2011-09-18 23:44:07

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Re: Can't start wireless after install

Where to start?

First off, the 82566 is a wired NIC.  I don't think we will have much luck getting it to connect to a wireless router.

I'm trying to install arch linux again.

Don't.  In general, that is not required on Arch and is a waste of time.

Please post the output of ip link and of lspci -nn   (That is two n's, not m)

Let us look at those and we will give you more advice...

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#3 2011-09-19 18:34:32

Jauch
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Re: Can't start wireless after install

Hi ewaller,

I thought  82566 was both ethernet and wireless...
Anyway, it's too late to avoid reinstall...
I solved the problem of internet connection installing everything on the packages... lol
Obviously I was missing something. But I need yet to figure what is in order to avoid install things that will not be used and give me problems too...
The bad thing is that the problem with the power off is still happening.

Anyway, maybe you can help me to find what was that I am missing on the installation.

ip link gives:

1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN 
    link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
2: eth0: <NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state DOWN qlen 1000
    link/ether 00:1d:60:b5:e6:dd brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
3: wlan0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc mq state UP qlen 1000
    link/ether 00:16:44:1a:48:74 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff

And lspci -nn gives:

00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31/P35/P31 Express DRAM Controller [8086:29c0] (rev 02)
00:01.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31/P35/P31 Express PCI Express Root Port [8086:29c1] (rev 02)
00:19.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Intel Corporation 82566DC-2 Gigabit Network Connection [8086:294c] (rev 02)
00:1a.0 USB Controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #4 [8086:2937] (rev 02)
00:1a.1 USB Controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #5 [8086:2938] (rev 02)
00:1a.7 USB Controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #2 [8086:293c] (rev 02)
00:1b.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller [8086:293e] (rev 02)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 1 [8086:2940] (rev 02)
00:1c.1 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 2 [8086:2942] (rev 02)
00:1d.0 USB Controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #1 [8086:2934] (rev 02)
00:1d.1 USB Controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #2 [8086:2935] (rev 02)
00:1d.2 USB Controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #3 [8086:2936] (rev 02)
00:1d.3 USB Controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #6 [8086:2939] (rev 02)
00:1d.7 USB Controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #1 [8086:293a] (rev 02)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge [8086:244e] (rev 92)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge [0601]: Intel Corporation 82801IR (ICH9R) LPC Interface Controller [8086:2916] (rev 02)
00:1f.2 IDE interface [0101]: Intel Corporation 82801IR/IO/IH (ICH9R/DO/DH) 4 port SATA IDE Controller [8086:2920] (rev 02)
00:1f.3 SMBus [0c05]: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) SMBus Controller [8086:2930] (rev 02)
00:1f.5 IDE interface [0101]: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) 2 port SATA IDE Controller [8086:2926] (rev 02)
01:05.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394) [0c00]: Agere Systems FW322/323 [11c1:5811] (rev 70)
02:00.0 Multimedia video controller [0400]: Conexant Systems, Inc. CX23885 PCI Video and Audio Decoder [14f1:8852] (rev 02)
04:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: nVidia Corporation G86 [GeForce 8500 GT] [10de:0421] (rev a1)

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#4 2011-09-19 18:59:22

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Re: Can't start wireless after install

I don't see a wireless card in that list. Is it an usb device maybe? If so, we need the output of lsusb (it's in the usbutils package, in case you don't have it yet).

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#5 2011-09-19 19:42:08

Jauch
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Re: Can't start wireless after install

Gusar wrote:

I don't see a wireless card in that list. Is it an usb device maybe? If so, we need the output of lsusb (it's in the usbutils package, in case you don't have it yet).

Hi Gusar,
.
Well... If it's an usb device, then is an "internal device", because I don't use that "sticks" for mobile connection...
In any case, here is the output of lsusb:

Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 008 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 15a9:0004 Gemtek WUBR177G
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 05e3:0608 Genesys Logic, Inc. USB-2.0 4-Port HUB
Bus 008 Device 002: ID 0603:00f2 Novatek Microelectronics Corp. 
Bus 008 Device 003: ID 047d:101f Kensington PocketMouse Pro
Bus 002 Device 005: ID 147a:e018 Formosa Industrial Computing, Inc. eHome Infrared Receiver
Bus 002 Device 006: ID 0bda:0151 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. Mass Storage Device (Multicard Reader)

You guys are shure that the 82566DC-2 isn't wireless too?

P.S.:

I used nm-tool and the result is like this:

- Device: wlan0  [Auto Fossil3] ------------------------------------------------
  Type:              802.11 WiFi
  Driver:            rt73usb

Last edited by Jauch (2011-09-19 19:50:34)

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#6 2011-09-19 19:58:18

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Re: Can't start wireless after install

Jauch wrote:

Well... If it's an usb device

It is indeed. Gemtek WUBR177G is an usb wifi thingy. rt73usb driver, and the required firmware (rt73.bin) is in the linux-firmware package. Post the output of dmesg after an unsuccessful connection attempt, maybe it'll say something interesting.

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#7 2011-09-19 20:12:56

Jauch
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Re: Can't start wireless after install

Hi Gunter.

You clarified me!
The reason that I wasn't able to connect before installing "everything" is that I wasn't installing the rt73usb driver...
Now it's working, anyway. But it's good to know WHAT I have to install... wink

But Even after the re-install, I am still with this problem: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=125656

sad

But the failure to connect to the wireless is gone smile
Thanks to all. smile

Living and learning... smile

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#8 2011-09-19 20:53:17

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Re: Can't start wireless after install

Jauch wrote:

Hi Gunter.

Gunter Jauch? LOL.

Jauch wrote:

But Even after the re-install, I am still with this problem: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=125656

Patient: "Doctor, when I do this, it hurts here."
Doctor: "Don't do that then."

Ok, seriously: While it would be nice to know why networkmanager crashes your machine, it's is not the only way to handle networks. If it has to be graphical try wicd, otherwise netcfg is very cool.

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#9 2011-09-19 21:00:19

Jauch
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Re: Can't start wireless after install

LOL

Sorry Gusar!!!!
I have an uncle (alread passed alway) that was called Guinter and I think my brain mixed things a little... xD

I think the problem is not Networkmanager...
I see this only now, after find that my network driver is a rt73usb: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php … 78#p992978

Seens that the problem is with the driver and the new kernel 3.0.
In fact, I have the networkmanager working on a laptop. The only difference is that it's another wireless device.

I think I update to the new kernel on the same day I changed the ISP. There the confusion... hmm

Probably I'll have to live with this problem until a new kernel or new driver solve this issue...

Oh my... sad

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#10 2011-09-19 21:00:22

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Re: Can't start wireless after install

Lets try some basics.
Can you post the output of iwconfig and of iwlist scan (Both provided by the wireless_tools package)

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#11 2011-09-19 21:04:56

Jauch
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Re: Can't start wireless after install

iwconfig:

lo        no wireless extensions.

eth0      no wireless extensions.

wlan0     IEEE 802.11bg  ESSID:"Fossil3"  
          Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.442 GHz  Access Point: 08:76:FF:87:75:8C   
          Bit Rate=54 Mb/s   Tx-Power=20 dBm   
          Retry  long limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
          Encryption key:off
          Power Management:on
          Link Quality=26/70  Signal level=-84 dBm  
          Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
          Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:51   Missed beacon:0

iwlist:

lo        Interface doesn't support scanning.

eth0      Interface doesn't support scanning.

wlan0     Scan completed :
          Cell 01 - Address: 08:76:FF:87:75:8C
                    Channel:7
                    Frequency:2.442 GHz (Channel 7)
                    Quality=34/70  Signal level=-76 dBm  
                    Encryption key:on
                    ESSID:"Fossil3"
                    Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s
                              24 Mb/s; 36 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s
                    Bit Rates:6 Mb/s; 9 Mb/s; 12 Mb/s; 48 Mb/s
                    Mode:Master
                    Extra:tsf=0000007a1ff8469b
                    Extra: Last beacon: 0ms ago
                    IE: Unknown: 0007466F7373696C33
                    IE: Unknown: 010882848B962430486C
                    IE: Unknown: 030107
                    IE: Unknown: 2A0100
                    IE: Unknown: 2F0100
                    IE: IEEE 802.11i/WPA2 Version 1
                        Group Cipher : TKIP
                        Pairwise Ciphers (1) : CCMP
                        Authentication Suites (1) : PSK
                    IE: Unknown: 32040C121860
                    IE: Unknown: 2D1A1C181BFFFF000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
                    IE: Unknown: 3D1607001300000000000000000000000000000000000000
                    IE: Unknown: DD09001018020200050000
                    IE: WPA Version 1
                        Group Cipher : TKIP
                        Pairwise Ciphers (1) : TKIP
                        Authentication Suites (1) : PSK
                    IE: Unknown: DD180050F2020101080003A4000027A4000042435E0062322F00
          Cell 02 - Address: 00:1D:5A:17:91:79
                    Channel:9
                    Frequency:2.452 GHz (Channel 9)
                    Quality=38/70  Signal level=-72 dBm  
                    Encryption key:on
                    ESSID:"Carvalho_Casa"
                    Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 6 Mb/s; 9 Mb/s
                              11 Mb/s
                    Mode:Master
                    Extra:tsf=000002b85761d25c
                    Extra: Last beacon: 860ms ago
                    IE: Unknown: 000D43617276616C686F5F43617361
                    IE: Unknown: 010682848B0C1296
                    IE: Unknown: 030109
                    IE: Unknown: 0706505420010D14
                    IE: WPA Version 1
                        Group Cipher : TKIP
                        Pairwise Ciphers (1) : TKIP
                        Authentication Suites (1) : PSK
                    IE: Unknown: 2A0102
          Cell 03 - Address: 00:1E:2A:F3:67:66
                    Channel:11
                    Frequency:2.462 GHz (Channel 11)
                    Quality=20/70  Signal level=-90 dBm  
                    Encryption key:on
                    ESSID:"net@home_1"
                    Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s
                              24 Mb/s; 36 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s
                    Bit Rates:6 Mb/s; 9 Mb/s; 12 Mb/s; 48 Mb/s
                    Mode:Master
                    Extra:tsf=00000026dba90639
                    Extra: Last beacon: 696ms ago
                    IE: Unknown: 000A6E657440686F6D655F31
                    IE: Unknown: 010882848B962430486C
                    IE: Unknown: 03010B
                    IE: Unknown: 2A0100
                    IE: Unknown: 2F0100
                    IE: Unknown: 32040C121860
                    IE: Unknown: DD060010180200F4
                    IE: WPA Version 1
                        Group Cipher : TKIP
                        Pairwise Ciphers (1) : TKIP
                        Authentication Suites (1) : PSK
          Cell 04 - Address: 08:76:FF:85:21:70
                    Channel:1
                    Frequency:2.412 GHz (Channel 1)
                    Quality=20/70  Signal level=-90 dBm  
                    Encryption key:on
                    ESSID:"MEO-852170"
                    Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s
                              24 Mb/s; 36 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s
                    Bit Rates:6 Mb/s; 9 Mb/s; 12 Mb/s; 48 Mb/s
                    Mode:Master
                    Extra:tsf=0000011f7e31079a
                    Extra: Last beacon: 1670ms ago
                    IE: Unknown: 000A4D454F2D383532313730
                    IE: Unknown: 010882848B962430486C
                    IE: Unknown: 030101
                    IE: Unknown: 2A0104
                    IE: Unknown: 2F0104
                    IE: IEEE 802.11i/WPA2 Version 1
                        Group Cipher : TKIP
                        Pairwise Ciphers (1) : CCMP
                        Authentication Suites (1) : PSK
                    IE: Unknown: 32040C121860
                    IE: Unknown: 2D1A1C181BFFFF000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
                    IE: Unknown: 3D1601001700000000000000000000000000000000000000
                    IE: Unknown: DD7E0050F204104A0001101044000102103B000103104700108196FF58199955E1A7E179E2AB09D8081021000754484F4D534F4E1023000A54686F6D736F6E205447102400043738346E10420009313130374E544136471054000800060050F20400011011000E54686F6D736F6E2054473738346E100800020084103C000100
                    IE: Unknown: DD09001018020200050000
                    IE: WPA Version 1
                        Group Cipher : TKIP
                        Pairwise Ciphers (1) : TKIP
                        Authentication Suites (1) : PSK
                    IE: Unknown: DD180050F2020101000003A4000027A4000042435E0062322F00
                    IE: Unknown: DD1E00904C331C181BFFFF000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
                    IE: Unknown: DD1A00904C3401001700000000000000000000000000000000000000
          Cell 05 - Address: 00:05:CA:A2:98:C8
                    Channel:2
                    Frequency:2.417 GHz (Channel 2)
                    Quality=20/70  Signal level=-90 dBm  
                    Encryption key:on
                    ESSID:"ZON-98C0"
                    Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s; 9 Mb/s
                              18 Mb/s; 36 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s
                    Bit Rates:6 Mb/s; 12 Mb/s; 24 Mb/s; 48 Mb/s
                    Mode:Master
                    Extra:tsf=00000241c268a153
                    Extra: Last beacon: 1613ms ago
                    IE: Unknown: 00085A4F4E2D39384330
                    IE: Unknown: 010882848B961224486C
                    IE: Unknown: 030102
                    IE: Unknown: 32048C98B060
                    IE: Unknown: DD270050F204104A000110104400010210470010BC329E001DD811B286010005CAA298C8103C000101
                    IE: Unknown: 050400030000
                    IE: Unknown: 2A0100
                    IE: Unknown: 2D1A8C0117FFFF000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
                    IE: Unknown: 3D1602000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
                    IE: Unknown: 7F0101
                    IE: WPA Version 1
                        Group Cipher : TKIP
                        Pairwise Ciphers (2) : TKIP CCMP
                        Authentication Suites (1) : PSK
                    IE: IEEE 802.11i/WPA2 Version 1
                        Group Cipher : TKIP
                        Pairwise Ciphers (2) : TKIP CCMP
                        Authentication Suites (1) : PSK
                    IE: Unknown: DD180050F2020101800003A4000027A4000042435E0062322F00
                    IE: Unknown: 0B05000014127A
                    IE: Unknown: DD1E00904C338C0117FFFF000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
                    IE: Unknown: DD1A00904C3402000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
                    IE: Unknown: DD07000C4300000000

People LOVE wireless... xD
I prefer ethernet, but the router is on the other side of the house... sad

Mine is Fossil3...

Last edited by Jauch (2011-09-19 21:06:16)

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#12 2011-09-19 21:10:28

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Re: Can't start wireless after install

Well, the good news is that you are associated with the access point Fossil3.  The bad news is that you do not have an IP address.
What happens if you run dhcpcd with root permissions?  If you don't have dhcpcd, try dhclient

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#13 2011-09-19 21:15:06

Gusar
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Re: Can't start wireless after install

Jauch wrote:

LOL

Sorry Gusar!!!!
I have an uncle (alread passed alway) that was called Guinter and I think my brain mixed things a little... xD

Ah. My mind went to this guy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%BCnther_Jauch smile

The issue is probably not directly in nm, but in the way it interacts with what seems to be a not-very-stable driver. If wicd doesn't have a problem, why not use that? Or netcfg?

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#14 2011-09-19 21:17:33

Jauch
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Re: Can't start wireless after install

ewaller wrote:

Well, the good news is that you are associated with the access point Fossil3.  The bad news is that you do not have an IP address.
What happens if you run dhcpcd with root permissions?  If you don't have dhcpcd, try dhclient

How??? yikes

I have an IP... If I haven't one, how I could be using internet? Or it's possible?

dhcpcd:

dhcpcd[1575]: version 5.2.12 starting
dhcpcd[1575]: wlan0: rebinding lease of 192.168.1.66
dhcpcd[1575]: eth0: waiting for carrier
dhcpcd[1575]: wlan0: acknowledged 192.168.1.66 from 192.168.1.254
dhcpcd[1575]: wlan0: leased 192.168.1.66 for 3600 seconds
dhcpcd[1575]: forked to background, child pid 1606

Networkmanager wouldn't get an IP?

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#15 2011-09-19 21:20:47

Jauch
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Re: Can't start wireless after install

Gusar wrote:

Ah. My mind went to this guy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%BCnther_Jauch smile

The issue is probably not directly in nm, but in the way it interacts with what seems to be a not-very-stable driver. If wicd doesn't have a problem, why not use that? Or netcfg?

I know him by name. I thought that was him that you are thinking... Maybe we are relatives, because my grandpa and grandma were germany, but we lost contact with our family in germany and in any case, are lots of Jauch's in the world... lol
Hum... I always have used networkmanager...

But I can give a try to other, if this fix my problem... rsrs smile

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#16 2011-09-19 21:21:41

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Re: Can't start wireless after install

Sorry, my mistake.  I missed the fact you are on-line now.

Disregard.

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#17 2011-09-19 21:26:42

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Re: Can't start wireless after install

ewaller wrote:

Sorry, my mistake.  I missed the fact you are on-line now.

Disregard.

LOL
Ok. No problem. smile

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#18 2011-11-09 22:50:36

Jauch
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Re: Can't start wireless after install

Just to do a little follow up.
I just updated my system, for kernel 3.1 and other things and now everything is working. I can shut down my machine with no problems :-)

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