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#1 2011-09-11 12:58:16

dimitar
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Will Archlinux Provide OpenJDK7?

I read this forum thread and I understand why jre and jdk packages have been removed from [community]. I want to ask if OpenJDK 7 will be provided instead of these packages. Please, forgive my ignorance, but as far as I understand, Oracle JDK 7 is based on OpenJDK 7. While I understand why Oracle JDK 7 cannot be packaged, I don't see any reason not to provide OpenJDK 7. According  to this blog post Fedora, Ubuntu, and Debian already package OpenJDK 7. So, will we see OpenJDK 7 in Archlinux, too (currently only OpenJDK 6 is available)? Thanks in advance for the info!

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#2 2011-09-11 13:14:12

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Re: Will Archlinux Provide OpenJDK7?

IIRC Oracle released version 7 and it was available in our repos but then Oracle backpedaled and said it was a developer preview or something.

Edit: It was about jdk, not openjdk, the packages are still available from ARM:
http://arm.konnichi.com/community/os/i6 … pkg.tar.xz
http://arm.konnichi.com/community/os/i6 … pkg.tar.xz

Sorry for mixing things up.

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Some OpenJDK7 info http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/ … 21296.html

Last edited by karol (2011-09-11 13:20:00)

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#3 2011-09-11 13:24:59

dimitar
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Re: Will Archlinux Provide OpenJDK7?

karol wrote:

IIRC Oracle released version 7 and it was available in our repos but then Oracle backpedaled and said it was a developer preview or something.

Edit: It was about jdk, not openjdk, the packages are still available from ARM:
http://arm.konnichi.com/community/os/i6 … pkg.tar.xz
http://arm.konnichi.com/community/os/i6 … pkg.tar.xz

Sorry for mixing things up.

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Some OpenJDK7 info http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/ … 21296.html

Great! Thanks for the info. Hopefully, {jre,jdk}7-openjdk will be available soon and the order in the universe will be restored wink

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#4 2011-09-17 16:20:14

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Re: Will Archlinux Provide OpenJDK7?

Why does no dev answer to Guillaume's email? Why does Guillaume not push openjdk7?

Openjdk7 came out on 28 July,2011 ..

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#5 2011-09-17 21:04:28

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Re: Will Archlinux Provide OpenJDK7?

Evilandi666, why don't you provide a PKGBUILD ?


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#6 2011-09-17 21:36:47

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Re: Will Archlinux Provide OpenJDK7?

Inxsible wrote:

Evilandi666, why don't you provide a PKGBUILD ?

That's not really relevant, there already is a PKGBUILD. He is just asking why the pkgs aren't pushed into the repos.

All I can say is that I installed the pkgs referenced to in that email and everything seems to be working fine, but the only java apps I occasionally use are intelij idea and netbeans.

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#7 2011-09-17 21:54:27

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Re: Will Archlinux Provide OpenJDK7?

In that case he should ask on the mailing lists. Developers would know more.


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#8 2011-09-18 00:14:08

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Re: Will Archlinux Provide OpenJDK7?

Ramses de Norre wrote:
Inxsible wrote:

Evilandi666, why don't you provide a PKGBUILD ?

That's not really relevant, there already is a PKGBUILD. He is just asking why the pkgs aren't pushed into the repos.

That's exactly what I meant - Guillaume mailed that on the dev-public list, but no reaction from others, so I think it faded into obscurity. I don't know why Guillaume didn't put those PKGBUILDs directly in testing or why no one signed them off (don't even know if openjdk needs signoffs). Maybe they got some reasons we don't know, I will wait - it is not a big problem, but also not really the arch way in my opinion.

Edit: Thx Allan and karol (two posts below), that seems to be the reason - I didn't even know that he is the maintainer of it, I thought Guillaume is. Sorry smile

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#9 2011-09-18 01:27:30

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Re: Will Archlinux Provide OpenJDK7?

It will get there eventually...    both devs that tend to deal with that package are away at the moment, so you will just have to wait (or adjust the PKGBUILD yourself using ABS, or use the AUR...  etc).

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#10 2011-09-18 09:33:14

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#11 2011-09-18 13:25:23

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Re: Will Archlinux Provide OpenJDK7?

So far there's no upstream Icedtea 2.0 relase for OpenJDK7. Work is in progress.

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#12 2011-09-22 12:27:30

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Re: Will Archlinux Provide OpenJDK7?

AndyRTR wrote:

So far there's no upstream Icedtea 2.0 relase for OpenJDK7. Work is in progress.

Http://icedtea.classpath.org/wiki/Main_Page#Getting_IcedTea says  "IcedTea7 1.14, based on OpenJDK7" is a stable release, actual in Arch is 1.10 based on openjdk 6, afaik. But i did not find the 1.14 release on their downloads page, so don't if the wiki is right.

Why do you want to wait for 2.0?

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#13 2011-09-22 13:03:26

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Re: Will Archlinux Provide OpenJDK7?

Evilandi666 wrote:

But i did not find the 1.14 release on their downloads page, so don't if the wiki is right.

http://icedtea.classpath.org/download/s … .14.tar.gz

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#14 2011-09-22 19:10:22

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Re: Will Archlinux Provide OpenJDK7?

dimitar wrote:
Evilandi666 wrote:

But i did not find the 1.14 release on their downloads page, so don't if the wiki is right.

http://icedtea.classpath.org/download/s … .14.tar.gz

Yes I saw that, but it this file is a bit old (may 2011), so I think this is the reason why Andy wants to wait wink

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#15 2011-09-22 19:41:04

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Re: Will Archlinux Provide OpenJDK7?

Old Icedtea7-1.14 was some kind of a prerelease not widely used and has a very old hardcoded early Oracle OpenJDK7 prerelease  as source. That's really not what you want.

I'm currently building and preparing a hg snapshot that should be ready to use. I hope to bring them next week or so to testing for early adopters to start bug hunting.

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#16 2011-09-29 22:13:29

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