[UPDATED]Cant Get Freedom In Internet (VPNs are not working)

seth · 2026-11-02 23:22:53

You're using a browser extension that provides a VPN - but only in the context of the browser.

Proton VPN isn’t working anymore

Proton on your computer (is there an error?), proton & discord or proton in turkey, https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonVPN/comm … in_turkey/ ?
(I assume all of them are talking about https://protonvpn.com/free-vpn while as https://gizmodo.com/best-vpn/unblock-discord-turkey points out the free plans typically don't offer obfuscation)

he worried about real deal law breaking stuff

I doubt so - nobody takes "lagal" whims of criminal dictators all that serious, not even the other criminal dictators.

jojo06 · 2026-11-03 22:12:02

The Proton VPN I was using was a paid service. So, it connects, but it doesn't even open Discord or other blocked sites.

So are you saying NordVPN will be the solution?

seth · 2026-11-03 22:20:50

I'm not saying anything - ask your government which VPNs they block

So, what is your WAN IP (w/o the browser specific VPN but Proton running) and what does dns leak tests say about your DNS?

jojo06 · 2026-11-04 21:31:38

84.252.114.5 Argentina
How to look up dns leak ? Google > dns leak test or a package needed ?

seth · 2026-11-05 08:07:11

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=dns+leak+test but mainly check that "dig discord.com" comes back as 162.159.13?.??? because https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php … 0#p2312830 shows it being resolved to your ISP (likely by your ISP's DNS)
Edit: you can also check that "dig @8.8.8.8 discord.com" returns a proper IP - if not, your ISP simply intercepts and manipulates #53 traffic and you'll have to use DoT/DoH (alternatively to using the VPN for DNS)

Last edited by seth (2026-11-05 08:09:08)

jojo06 · 2026-11-05 19:28:50

OMG... I don't know what is happening. I moved to summer house. Which means another modem another ISP. Same PC and same Arch. Neither warp or Proton is working. wanip.org showing the exact and true location of mine. Not Argentina anymore.
And instead IP its showing something like ipv6 or mac address.

Without VPN; `dig @8.8.8.8 discord.com`

;; communications error to 8.8.8.8#53: connection refused
;; communications error to 8.8.8.8#53: connection refused
;; communications error to 8.8.8.8#53: connection refused

; <<>> DiG 9.20.30 <<>> @8.8.8.8 discord.com
; (1 server found)
;; global options: +cmd
;; no servers could be reached

Lets try this one; DoT/DoH (alternatively to using the VPN for DNS)

seth · 2026-11-05 20:11:14

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/System … S_over_TLS but w/o VPN that's not gonna help much either (you'll be able to resolve the correct IP but not reach it)

jojo06 · 2026-11-06 21:37:36

But you're saying even that might not be a definitive solution?

I have no working VPN right now.
I'll find a VPN and give it a try. Even if it doesn't solve the problem, I won't have the nerve to bring it up again

If you have any VPN recommendations and would like to discuss this topic in more depth, please let me know.
Otherwise topic [CLOSED] I guess.

seth · 2026-11-06 22:10:13

1. we know that at least the browser plugin based VPN works/worked
2. your previous outputs have shown that discord.com was resolved to an IP of your ISP (part of the censorship)
3. your ISP can
a) block traffic to discord.com (a firewall) - this is where you need the VPN
b) provide bogus DNS responses when using their DNS servers (it looks that has happened)
c) manipulate DNS queries (this is where you need secure connection to a DNS that's not controlled by your government, plain DNS is unencrypted)
d) block traffic using a known VPN (you're better off asking other victims of that system and ISP which one those are)

Does your browser + extension currently allow you to access discord.com?
What do you mean by "finding" a DNS? We don't know why the VPN is currently not working, but I suspect it's only configured for IPv4 and you're currently using and IPv6 only connection?

jojo06 · 2026-11-08 11:00:06

Does your browser + extension currently allow you to access discord.com?

Yes.

What do you mean by "finding" a DNS?

VPN. I had a working one. Now I don't have any. Especially for Linux I don't know which one should I get. Kaspersky was good and solid.
(I think, in accordance with the instructions received,) the bank has blocked credit cards for use on the Proton website or has blocked purchases from the Proton website. I can’t purchase a membership, so I called the bank and asked them to add an exception. It wasn’t possible.

(I think, in accordance with the instructions received,) the bank has blocked my credit card for use on the Proton website or has blocked purchases from the Proton website. I can’t purchase a membership, so I called the bank and asked them to add an exception. It wasn’t possible.

They using something called DPI in Windows.
GoodbyeDPI
GoodbyeDPI + Zapret Hybrid

Really funny my browser can't open the links even... Stuck on loading state but I found these repos:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source= … 0929585000
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source= … 0929585000
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source= … jfu58Nl8Ta

Research result about DPI (brave llm):

jojo06: there was smt else than goodbye dpi, another method what was that
...
jojo06: cant I do that dpi myself ? and in linux ?
deepl translate:
DPI (Deep Packet Inspection) is a technology that allows your internet service provider (Türk Telekom, Turkcell, etc.) to examine not only the “envelope” (where it’s going) of the packets you send over the network, but also their “contents.”
Normally, when you connect to a website, the destination address is written on your packet.
Normally, when you connect to a website, the address you’re connecting to is written on the packet. However, censorship systems that use DPI examine the contents of the packet to determine which website (such as Discord) you’re trying to establish an encrypted connection with (TLS/SNI) or whether you’re sending audio data (UDP), and they immediately terminate the connection. Tools like GoodbyeDPI or Zapret, on the other hand, intentionally fragment these packets, reorder them, or add misleading data. The network's censorship device cannot read or block these modified packets, so you will have bypassed the censorship.
Can You Do It Yourself on Linux?
Yes, you absolutely can. In fact, Linux is the home of these DPI-scaling technologies (especially Zapret) and the place where they work most reliably. On Linux, you can set this up entirely on your own without downloading any third-party interface software, using the system’s built-in network drivers and terminal.
The most effective and professional method for Linux is to use Zapret. Below, you’ll find step-by-step instructions on how to do this on Linux:
Step 1: Install the Required Packages
For Zapret to work, it needs Linux network filtering tools (iptables or nftables) and curl. Depending on your distribution, type the following into the terminal:
For Arch/Manjaro:
sudo pacman -Syu git curl iptables (yes they insistingly dont edit/fix with -S)
Step 2:
git clone zabret
sudo ./install_easy.sh
Step 3: Setup Wizard Settings (Very Important)
After running the `install_easy.sh` command, the terminal will ask you a few questions. To bypass the Discord and YouTube blocks in Turkey, you should make the following selections:
1. Select firewall type: Choose iptables or nftables depending on your system (It usually detects it automatically; you can just press Enter to proceed).
2. Enable HTTP/HTTPS bypass? Select Y (Yes).
3. Mode selection: It will ask if you want to use tpws or nfqws. Select the nfqws option. (Because nfqws directly manipulates packets and is much more effective for Discord voice channels.)
4. Configure WAN interfaces: It will automatically select the network adapter you use to connect to the internet; press Enter to confirm.
EXTRA (if sound has a problem):
Step 4: Fine-Tuning for Turkey (Fixing the Discord Audio Issue)
Once the setup is complete, Discord text channels will open, but to connect to voice channels (RTC), we also need to manipulate the UDP packets. To do this, open Zapret’s configuration file:
sudo nano /etc/zapret/config
Use this code with caution.
Inside the file, you will find the lines NFQWS_OPT_DESYNC_HTTP and NFQWS_OPT_DESYNC_HTTPS. To account for current blocks in Turkey, edit these lines as follows (or add them at the very bottom):
text
NFQWS_OPT_DESYNC_HTTPS=“--desync-ttl=4 --desync-split-pos=2”
NFQWS_OPT_DESYNC_UDP="--desync-hop-by-hop"

sudo systemctl restart zapret
sudo systemctl enable zapret

I hope it helps.

seth · 2026-11-08 14:03:21

https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/zapret2 but I doubt that's the case - DPI on TLS/SSL is implausible and the browser extension based VPN seems still to work.

(I think, in accordance with the instructions received,) the bank has blocked credit cards for use on the Proton website or has blocked purchases from the Proton website.

IOW you don't have a paid proton plan, does setting up the free plan entirely don't work? Are you still at the summer house?

jojo06 · 2026-11-09 19:28:16

DPI + zapret is a different method anyway—I think it's an extra one. Can DPI work on its own?

Since it's still working, I assume it's the free plan's configuration. But it won't even open sites that are normally blocked. Yes, I'll be at my summer house for a while.

seth · 2026-11-09 20:40:47

DPI is something your dictator does and zapret is something that tries to prevent that from being effective.

But it won't even open sites that are normally blocked. Yes, I'll be at my summer house for a while.

IOW when using proton the internet doesn't work at all anymore? But the browser extension still allows you to access discord.com

I assume it's the free plan's configuration

What do you mean "assume"? Do you have, pay for and configure a paid proton plan or not?

Because of the summer house:

ping -c1 discord.com

-thc · 2026-11-10 09:57:38

@jojo06: The disgusting behavior of your government kept me thinking. My last words from #49 literally meant "I have no experience with commercial VPN providers who meet those requirements".

But if you're willing to do it all by yourself...

1. Get a fully functional VPS in a country of your choosing.
2. Install Arch or Debian on it.
3. Install a working WireGuard "server" (peer) on it (https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/WireGuard).
4. Install "wstunnel" on it (https://community.hetzner.com/tutorials … -wstunnel/).

5. Install WireGuard and wstunnel on your client.

jojo06 · 2026-11-11 20:14:02

IOW when using proton the internet doesn't work at all anymore? But the browser extension still allows you to access discord.com

Really strange... The Proton VPN conf; It couldn't access even websites that were blocked at the standard level. Now it can. But when it comes to discord(desktop app):

Temporary Network Error

We've encountered a temporary network error, but we are working to resolve the issue.
Please wait a few minutes and try again.

In the meantime, you can check out the Status page

Request ID: xxx

It was able to access not-blocked sites still do, no problem with that. But sometimes it wasn't connecting and such.

What do you mean "assume"? Do you have, pay for and configure a paid proton plan or not?

I had paid. But since bank blocking the company, I can't pay anymore. So its free account, not premium. But configs still working.
Just checked some configs wants password and not connect. These are the paid ones I guess. There is a lot time passed. And the other connection not connecting the simply blocked websites.
But the 4. one worked (not in discord)... Working one is the wireguard conf.

While connected to that wireguard:
ping -c1 discord.com

PING discord.com (162.159.136.232) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 162.159.136.232: icmp_seq=1 ttl=57 time=173 ms

--- discord.com ping statistics ---
1 packets transmitted, 1 received, 0% packet loss, time 0ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 172.679/172.679/172.679/0.000 ms

Now (2nd try) without error at the above it stuck in "Starting" state.

@-thc its disgusting for all of us. Amsterdam will be better choice ? Vultr any good or Hetzner ? If asked, they should not answer, no info Just in case, I dont think it will be any problem.

Last edited by jojo06 (2026-11-12 18:46:14)

seth · 2026-11-11 20:55:51

64 bytes from 162.159.136.232: icmp_seq=1 ttl=57 time=173 ms

You could successfully ping the discord server at that point

Now (2nd try) without error at the above it stuck in "Starting" state.

Please don't paraphrase, what "starting state"?
ping will eventually time out, what's the output when you let it run?

-thc · 2026-11-12 07:55:14

jojo06 wrote:

Amsterdam will be better choice ? Vultr any good or Hetzner ?

Do you mean Amsterdam as a VPN endpoint? I can't help you there - i neither use a commercial VPN nor a commercial VPS.

jojo06 · 2026-11-12 18:49:07

@seth the small window appears when you start discord. The same window it says "downloading updates".
Im running from taskbar not via terminal. From app. I can try to run from terminal tho, if desired ? For outputs...

@-thc yeah they asking the country to select. I thought Amsterdam will be more freedom. Okay, thank you.

seth · 2026-11-12 20:06:32

So this has nothing to do w/ pinging discord, pinging discord still works fine?

curl -vL discord.com > /dev/null

I can try to run from terminal tho, if desired ? For outputs...

Yup.

jojo06 · Yesterday 20:37:37

Its not stable. Today its not even(VPN) able to access normal level of restricted sites.

curl -vL discord.com > /dev/null

*   Trying [2a01:358:4014:a00::3]:80...
* Host discord.com:80 was resolved.
* IPv6: 2a01:358:4014:a00::3
* IPv4: 195.175.254.2
* Established connection to discord.com (2a01:358:4014:a00::3 port 80) from XXcensoredXX port 56202 
  % Total    % Received % Xferd  Average Speed  Time    Time    Time   Current
                                 Dload  Upload  Total   Spent   Left   Speed
  0      0   0      0   0      0      0      0           00:05              0* using HTTP/1.x
> GET / HTTP/1.1
> Host: discord.com
> User-Agent: curl/8.23.0
> Accept: */*
> 
* Request completely sent off
< HTTP/1.1 200 OK
< Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
< X-Cache: HIT
< X-Request-Id: 1794601560096396406
< Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2026 20:26:00 GMT
< Transfer-Encoding: chunked
< 
{ [4755 bytes data]
100   4742   0   4742   0      0    942      0           00:05              0
* Connection #0 to host discord.com:80 left intact

Now its stuck on "Checking for updates" stage -> Failed, trying again in 3 seconds...

Discord 1.0.168
App ready
(node:5424) [DEP0040] DeprecationWarning: The `punycode` module is deprecated. Please use a userland alternative instead.
(Use `Discord --trace-deprecation ...` to show where the warning was created)
Starting app.
Starting updater.
Determined current Linux architecture: x64
[2026-11-13 23:30:17.440024 +03:00] WARN [updater]: Could not determine platform version
splashScreen.initSplash(false)
allowOptionalUpdates: true
splashScreen.updateSplashState checking-for-updates checking-for-updates {}
splashScreen.updateSplashState: Windows is null.
[5474:1113/233017.502557:ERROR:ui/ozone/platform/wayland/gpu/wayland_surface_factory.cc:249] '--ozone-platform=wayland' is not compatible with Vulkan. Consider switching to '--ozone-platform=x11' or disabling Vulkan
blackbox: 11/13/2026, 11:30:17 PM GMT+3 0 

----------------------------------------------
[5424:1113/233017.549608:ERROR:dbus/object_proxy.cc:589] Failed to call method: org.freedesktop.systemd1.Manager.GetUnit: object_path= /org/freedesktop/systemd1: org.freedesktop.systemd1.NoSuchUnit: Unit app-discord-5424.scope not loaded.
blackbox: 11/13/2026, 11:30:17 PM GMT+3 1 Discord starting: {"releaseChannel":"stable","sentryDist":"stable-linux-x64","sentryRelease":"discord-desktop-20bdedc5fd893290d9b86786f2d838ebc3978b0b","version":"1.0.168","disableUpdater":false}, modulepath: /home/guns/.config/discord/module_data
blackbox: 11/13/2026, 11:30:17 PM GMT+3 2 ✅ webContents.created web1 "index.html"
(electron) 'console-message' arguments are deprecated and will be removed. Please use Event<WebContentsConsoleMessageEventParams> object instead.
23:30:17.683 › splashScreenPreload: signalReady
splashScreen: SPLASH_SCREEN_READY
splashScreen.webContentsSend: SPLASH_SCREEN_QUOTE SPLASH_SCREEN_QUOTE [ 'Hold Tight — Loading Discord' ]
splashScreen: Resending splash state after SPLASH_SCREEN_READY: checking-for-updates
splashScreen.updateSplashState checking-for-updates checking-for-updates {}
splashScreen.webContentsSend: SPLASH_UPDATE_STATE SPLASH_UPDATE_STATE [ { status: 'checking-for-updates' } ]
23:30:17.690 › splashScreenPreload: onStateUpdate: {"status":"checking-for-updates"}
blackbox: 11/13/2026, 11:30:17 PM GMT+3 3 ✅ window.created win1 "discord"
blackbox: 11/13/2026, 11:30:17 PM GMT+3 4 ✅ webContents.did-finish-load web1
[2026-11-13 23:30:23.373350 +03:00] ERROR [updater_client]: Failed 0: Other(Reqwest(reqwest::Error { kind: Request, url: "[url]https://updates.discord.com/distributions/app/manifests/latest?install_id=da00aa12-2375-424e-85d0-1823503da33d&channel=stable&platform=linux&arch=x64&client_version=97685[/url]", source: hyper_util::client::legacy::Error(Connect, Custom { kind: Other, error: Custom { kind: UnexpectedEof, error: "tls handshake eof" } }) }))
splashScreen: Update failed Error: (Other) (network_error): Unexpected EOF during handshake
    at Updater._handleResponse (/home/guns/.config/discord/app-1.0.168/resources/app.asar/bundle.js:15:27038)
splashScreen.updateSplashState update-failure update-failure { seconds: 2 }
splashScreen.webContentsSend: SPLASH_UPDATE_STATE SPLASH_UPDATE_STATE [ { status: 'update-failure', seconds: 2 } ]
23:30:23.378 › splashScreenPreload: onStateUpdate: {"status":"update-failure","seconds":2}
splashScreen.updateSplashState checking-for-updates checking-for-updates {}
splashScreen.webContentsSend: SPLASH_UPDATE_STATE SPLASH_UPDATE_STATE [ { status: 'checking-for-updates' } ]
23:30:25.632 › splashScreenPreload: onStateUpdate: {"status":"checking-for-updates"}
[2026-11-13 23:30:31.551484 +03:00] ERROR [updater_client]: Failed 1: Other(Reqwest(reqwest::Error { kind: Request, url: "[url]https://updates.discord.com/distributions/app/manifests/latest?install_id=da00aa12-2375-424e-85d0-1823503da33d&channel=stable&platform=linux&arch=x64&client_version=97685[/url]", source: hyper_util::client::legacy::Error(Connect, Custom { kind: Other, error: Custom { kind: UnexpectedEof, error: "tls handshake eof" } }) }))
splashScreen: Update failed Error: (Other) (network_error): Unexpected EOF during handshake
    at Updater._handleResponse (/home/guns/.config/discord/app-1.0.168/resources/app.asar/bundle.js:15:27038)
splashScreen.updateSplashState update-failure update-failure { seconds: 3 }
splashScreen.webContentsSend: SPLASH_UPDATE_STATE SPLASH_UPDATE_STATE [ { status: 'update-failure', seconds: 3 } ]
23:30:31.554 › splashScreenPreload: onStateUpdate: {"status":"update-failure","seconds":3}
^Cblackbox: 11/13/2026, 11:30:34 PM GMT+3 5 before-quit
blackbox: 11/13/2026, 11:30:34 PM GMT+3 6 window.close win1

Pinging is also broken:

PING discord.com (2a01:358:4014:a00::3) 56 data bytes

--- discord.com ping statistics ---
1 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 0ms

And its opening google kinda slow too. Warp-cli used to work wonders. It was easy and simple!

seth · Yesterday 20:49:13

195.175.254.2 is TTnetTurkTelekom and 2a01:358:4014:a00::3 is Turk Telekom - you're not using any VPN and the DNS is tainted by your ISP

Arch Linux

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